Does any of these cameras have uncompressed component out, like the HVRZ1U had? at DVinfo.net

Wayne Morellini · May 19th, 2005, 11:42 AM

Does any of these cameras have uncompressed component out, like the HVRZ1U had?

Is there any live still option on the component?

Thanks

Radek Svoboda · May 19th, 2005, 12:21 PM

They have uncompressed analog HD output.

Wayne Morellini · May 19th, 2005, 06:56 PM

Good to hear, that makes hem more useful. Is there any confirmation on this that we can link too?

Is there any any idea of he signal to noise ratio of his output, and the format (8bit 10 bit, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, 3:1:1 etc)?

Thanks

Radek Svoboda · May 21st, 2005, 12:23 AM

It's analog component, no bits, you need use HDSDI converter. It may be 14 bit; the camera shares lot with FX/Z1.

If you guys could make HDSDI hard drive recorder for it, it would work with FX/Z1 and JVC HD100 too. A lot of these cameras will be sold. You could make fortune on it.

Radek

Wayne Morellini · May 22nd, 2005, 09:23 AM

The way things are going with the projects I would not hold my breath for a HDSDI recorder, but I suggest contacting Keith Wakeham off list:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=42653.

He has an interest in this field. I am pretty sure he is a nice feller, but unfortunately you are unlikely to find many people as helpful as me around here (and I am a sick puppy barely able to get much done, hardly a good example).

Back to the output, they usually have a bit range they convert from to the analogue signal, then the analogue signal has to be pure enough (Signal to Noise ratio etc) to transfer those bits. Not to mention claims the Z1 does it 3:1:1 (JVC 4:2:2, I think), so you loose a fair bit there. Unless it is very well done you might not even get 8-bit precision because of Signal to Noise ratio's, and 10 to 14 bit is preferable for high end work. If it is true 14bits that would be great. If the DAC's are 10-14-bits, it might be possible to do things to artificially reduce the reduce the noise on the DAC signal. If the DACs are on a separate chip packet, it might be possible to replace them with better ones.

No easy job, unless Sony does it in there in the first place.

Thanks for the help Radek, have a good day.

Radek Svoboda · May 24th, 2005, 03:54 PM

Thanks for info, Wayne. Radek

May 19th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#1
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Does any of these cameras have uncompressed component out, like the HVRZ1U had? Does any of these cameras have uncompressed component out, like the HVRZ1U had? Is there any live still option on the component? Thanks

May 22nd, 2005, 09:23 AM	#5
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	The way things are going with the projects I would not hold my breath for a HDSDI recorder, but I suggest contacting Keith Wakeham off list: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=42653. He has an interest in this field. I am pretty sure he is a nice feller, but unfortunately you are unlikely to find many people as helpful as me around here (and I am a sick puppy barely able to get much done, hardly a good example). Back to the output, they usually have a bit range they convert from to the analogue signal, then the analogue signal has to be pure enough (Signal to Noise ratio etc) to transfer those bits. Not to mention claims the Z1 does it 3:1:1 (JVC 4:2:2, I think), so you loose a fair bit there. Unless it is very well done you might not even get 8-bit precision because of Signal to Noise ratio's, and 10 to 14 bit is preferable for high end work. If it is true 14bits that would be great. If the DAC's are 10-14-bits, it might be possible to do things to artificially reduce the reduce the noise on the DAC signal. If the DACs are on a separate chip packet, it might be possible to replace them with better ones. No easy job, unless Sony does it in there in the first place. Thanks for the help Radek, have a good day. Last edited by Wayne Morellini; May 22nd, 2005 at 09:46 AM.

May 19th, 2005, 12:21 PM	#2
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	They have uncompressed analog HD output.

May 19th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#3
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Good to hear, that makes hem more useful. Is there any confirmation on this that we can link too? Is there any any idea of he signal to noise ratio of his output, and the format (8bit 10 bit, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, 3:1:1 etc)? Thanks

May 21st, 2005, 12:23 AM	#4
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	It's analog component, no bits, you need use HDSDI converter. It may be 14 bit; the camera shares lot with FX/Z1. If you guys could make HDSDI hard drive recorder for it, it would work with FX/Z1 and JVC HD100 too. A lot of these cameras will be sold. You could make fortune on it. Radek

May 24th, 2005, 03:54 PM	#6
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	Thanks for info, Wayne. Radek