Sony HDV camcorder for less than 2.000 $ at DVinfo.net

Jos Svendsen · May 17th, 2005, 02:32 AM

Sony HDR-HC1 is a HDV 1080i camcorder with 1 (one) 3 megapixel 4:3 CMOS sensor and sort of full manual controls.

Price da da da daaaa - <2.000 $ when it hit the stores in juli.

Camcorder Info has the story. www.camcorderinfo.com

The official press release is here: http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5930

And there will be a Sony PDX10-like pro edidion as well (3.500 $) in the fall.

The official press release for this edition is here: http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5925

Hopefully Canon has something in the pipeline ....

Duane Smith · May 17th, 2005, 06:04 AM

WOW! As a PDX10 user who loves the tiny form factor, that HVR-A1U "pro" model is making me drool! I can't afford one anytime soon, and obviously I'll want to see what its footage looks like (it's got to be better than a PDX10, simply because it's HD, right?) but I do think I know what I'll be starting to save my pennies for.

:-)

Boyd Ostroff · May 17th, 2005, 08:22 AM

It does look cool, but I wouldn't automatically assume that it's "got to be better than the PDX-10". It certainly seems to have the same XLR box and mike. It appears to have a switchable focus/zoom ring. Other than that, the photos don't show much in the way of manual control. I hope they haven't gone the way of the HC-1000 and moved everything to the touch screen...

Duane Smith · May 17th, 2005, 08:26 AM

Well, that is certainly a good point. The camera could easily have been dumbed-down by SONY to a point that would render it useless for many people.

But I was speaking about the image quality, not functionality.

Chris Hink · May 17th, 2005, 08:44 AM

If I'm reading this correctly this is going to be a one chip camera.

Of all the things I could see Sony doing to dumb down the PDX10 this wasn't one of them. I hope it comes with 3 chips.

Marco Leavitt · May 17th, 2005, 09:34 AM

Wow, I was going to hold off on HDV, but this looks pretty hard to pass up. Come on Canon, don't make me buy a Sony!

Steven Gotz · May 17th, 2005, 10:29 AM

I agree with Chris. Why one chip? Oh well, perhaps they have improved it to the point where it sill look as good as the FX1/Z1 but with fewer options. I doubt it though.

John C. Chu · May 17th, 2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

I agree with Chris. Why one chip? Oh well, perhaps they have improved it to the point where it sill look as good as the FX1/Z1 but with fewer options. I doubt it though.

Same here. If the pro version is $3,500--why wouldn't one just get the 3 chip FX-1 for around $3,000 and buy the XLR adapter?

Jun Galinato · May 17th, 2005, 12:11 PM

Maybe the street price will be lower, say about $2500?

Boyd Ostroff · May 17th, 2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duane Smith

But I was speaking about the image quality, not functionality.

I still wouldn't assume that it has a better image than the PDX-10 just because it records HDV. Only one chip vs three. Higher pixel density CCD might be worse in low light. Doesn't say whether the camera has Optical Image Stabilization. True, the PDX-10 is standard definition but resolution isn't everything.

But who knows? It may very well be a terrific camera. My point was just that it's very premature to assume that "it's got to be better than the PDX-10."

Radek Svoboda · May 17th, 2005, 01:24 PM

The consumer version is supposed sell for 1,700 USD. It uses 3 MP CMOS. Sony makes CMOS for Nikon. The quality should be fine. Sony claimed 1080i is going to have 90% of HDV market.

This camera will make good second camera to FX/Z1. I'd like to buy one.

PS3 will have 1080p output.

This is year when HD will start seriously replacing SD.

Radek

Michael Struthers · May 17th, 2005, 02:17 PM

I want one. This will be a great cam to use before the Panny hvx gets here. Plus Sony hopefully will be applying downward pricing pressure on Panny products.

Anyone know how big the lens is?

Michael Struthers · May 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM

is here..

http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/article.p...C1-and-HDR-FX1

Steven Gotz · May 19th, 2005, 06:45 AM

There seems to be a rather entertaining post missing.

Chris Hurd · May 19th, 2005, 08:00 AM

I appreciate your evaluation of that missing post as "entertainment," in fact I found it entertaining as well, but our policy here at DV Info Net is that we don't allow trash-talking of any format, especially such highly opinionated garbage about equipment that the offending poster hasn't even seen or touched with his own hands. How one can evaluate something they have no direct experience with is simply beyond my ability to understand. I'd like to urge that person to find something that he likes and write positive things about that, instead of dwelling on negativity which is so poorly perceived anyway.

There are enough posts about these new camcorders that it might be time for their own dedicated forum now. Hope this helps,

May 17th, 2005, 02:32 AM	#1
Jos Svendsen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 221	Sony HDV camcorder for less than 2.000 $ Sony HDR-HC1 is a HDV 1080i camcorder with 1 (one) 3 megapixel 4:3 CMOS sensor and sort of full manual controls. Price da da da daaaa - <2.000 $ when it hit the stores in juli. Camcorder Info has the story. www.camcorderinfo.com The official press release is here: http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5930 And there will be a Sony PDX10-like pro edidion as well (3.500 $) in the fall. The official press release for this edition is here: http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5925 Hopefully Canon has something in the pipeline ....

May 17th, 2005, 10:29 AM	#7
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I agree with Chris. Why one chip? Oh well, perhaps they have improved it to the point where it sill look as good as the FX1/Z1 but with fewer options. I doubt it though. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

May 17th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#9
Jun Galinato Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 231	Maybe the street price will be lower, say about $2500? __________________ Sony Z7U, Canon 5D Mark II, Canon 24-105 F4L, Canon 70-200 F2.8L, Canon 580 EXII, Zoom H2.

May 17th, 2005, 02:17 PM	#12
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	I want one. This will be a great cam to use before the Panny hvx gets here. Plus Sony hopefully will be applying downward pricing pressure on Panny products. Anyone know how big the lens is? __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

May 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#13
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Comparison chart between the two cams is here.. http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/article.p...C1-and-HDR-FX1 __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

May 17th, 2005, 06:04 AM	#2
Duane Smith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 234	WOW! As a PDX10 user who loves the tiny form factor, that HVR-A1U "pro" model is making me drool! I can't afford one anytime soon, and obviously I'll want to see what its footage looks like (it's got to be better than a PDX10, simply because it's HD, right?) but I do think I know what I'll be starting to save my pennies for. :-)

May 17th, 2005, 08:22 AM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	It does look cool, but I wouldn't automatically assume that it's "got to be better than the PDX-10". It certainly seems to have the same XLR box and mike. It appears to have a switchable focus/zoom ring. Other than that, the photos don't show much in the way of manual control. I hope they haven't gone the way of the HC-1000 and moved everything to the touch screen...

May 17th, 2005, 08:26 AM	#4
Duane Smith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 234	Well, that is certainly a good point. The camera could easily have been dumbed-down by SONY to a point that would render it useless for many people. But I was speaking about the image quality, not functionality.

May 17th, 2005, 08:44 AM	#5
Chris Hink New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 24	If I'm reading this correctly this is going to be a one chip camera. Of all the things I could see Sony doing to dumb down the PDX10 this wasn't one of them. I hope it comes with 3 chips.

May 17th, 2005, 09:34 AM	#6
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Wow, I was going to hold off on HDV, but this looks pretty hard to pass up. Come on Canon, don't make me buy a Sony!

May 17th, 2005, 01:24 PM	#11
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	The consumer version is supposed sell for 1,700 USD. It uses 3 MP CMOS. Sony makes CMOS for Nikon. The quality should be fine. Sony claimed 1080i is going to have 90% of HDV market. This camera will make good second camera to FX/Z1. I'd like to buy one. PS3 will have 1080p output. This is year when HD will start seriously replacing SD. Radek

May 19th, 2005, 06:45 AM	#14
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	There seems to be a rather entertaining post missing. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

May 19th, 2005, 08:00 AM	#15
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I appreciate your evaluation of that missing post as "entertainment," in fact I found it entertaining as well, but our policy here at DV Info Net is that we don't allow trash-talking of any format, especially such highly opinionated garbage about equipment that the offending poster hasn't even seen or touched with his own hands. How one can evaluate something they have no direct experience with is simply beyond my ability to understand. I'd like to urge that person to find something that he likes and write positive things about that, instead of dwelling on negativity which is so poorly perceived anyway. There are enough posts about these new camcorders that it might be time for their own dedicated forum now. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!