CF Card Won't Mount Without Restart at DVinfo.net

Raul Barcelona · June 12th, 2009, 10:58 PM

Hi everyone,

I've been recording simultaneously to tape and the CF card, trying to get into a steady workflow with my z7.

I've downloaded the Sony FCP plug-in and have been able to transfer the clips from my CF card to my Mac.

The only problem is that I cannot get the CF card to mount on my computer unless I restart the computer itself.

So, for instance, I can't just have my computer on and then plug the Memory Recording Unit via Firewire and have it show up when I open FCP>Log & Transfer. I have to restart the computer first, while the Recording Unit is attached--only then can I see the CF.

This is a pain when I have to log and transfer from more than one card because I have to quit FCP, and restart the computer once I want to log and transfer from a new card in the same session.

Is this normal? Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions?

I have tried using two different Firewire cables I have but they do the same...Wondering if it may have to do with having external hard-drives attached...?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Raul
New York, NY

Greg Laves · June 14th, 2009, 10:06 PM

I don't use FCP but I shot some stuff on my MRC1 for another guy. We didn't use the MRC1 for playback. He had a little card reader that was plugged into a USB port, I think. He didn't have to shut down anything or restart anything. It worked just like you would expect. Perfectly.

Keith Forman · June 14th, 2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raul Barcelona

Hi everyone,

I've been recording simultaneously to tape and the CF card, trying to get into a steady workflow with my z7.

I've downloaded the Sony FCP plug-in and have been able to transfer the clips from my CF card to my Mac.

The only problem is that I cannot get the CF card to mount on my computer unless I restart the computer itself.

So, for instance, I can't just have my computer on and then plug the Memory Recording Unit via Firewire and have it show up when I open FCP>Log & Transfer. I have to restart the computer first, while the Recording Unit is attached--only then can I see the CF.

This is a pain when I have to log and transfer from more than one card because I have to quit FCP, and restart the computer once I want to log and transfer from a new card in the same session.

Is this normal? Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions?

I have tried using two different Firewire cables I have but they do the same...Wondering if it may have to do with having external hard-drives attached...?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Raul
New York, NY

You don't need to use the MRC1 unit to get the clips. You can just drop your CF card in to the CF card reader on the computer. If the computer does not have one you can buy a CF reader for around $15. It does not solve your issue but may take care of your problem. Firewire can also damage the unit if connected incorrectly.

Raul Barcelona · June 15th, 2009, 09:07 AM

Thank you guys!

It sounds like I should indeed invest in a CF reader rather than sticking with the MRC to log and transfer the clips. $15 seems reasonable enough to get around the problem of the MRC not mounting without restart.

If I do figure out why it won't mount without the restart I'll let you know, though!

So far no luck...

Raul

Gary Nattrass · June 16th, 2009, 02:11 AM

You could do one better and get a firewire 800 CF reader, this is the one that I use:
SanDisk | Products | Accessories | SanDisk Extreme® Readers

Raul Barcelona · June 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM

Thanks for the recommendation, Gary. The card readers that go for $15 or so at B&H don't have very good reviews and was looking at the Firewire ones. Firewire 800 would be the optimal in terms of time-saving speed.

I'm still wondering if others find that logging and transferring from the Memory Recording Unit is a very unstable process... I'm pretty appalled at how unstable it is in terms of its functionality when it comes to logging and transferring clips from the card to the computer.

I was reading that somebody else was experiencing things such as opening the log and transfer window and not seeing anything for a minute or so, nor any indication that indeed FCP is seeing the card or trying to read from it... I definitely have the same experience...

Anyway, in any case, seeking a card reader, like the one recommended by Gary should do the trick. I think perhaps I was expecting too much from the gear that came with the camera!

Thanks again all for your help!

Raul

Boudewijn de Kemp · June 17th, 2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raul Barcelona

I'm still wondering if others find that logging and transferring from the Memory Recording Unit is a very unstable process... I'm pretty appalled at how unstable it is in terms of its functionality when it comes to logging and transferring clips from the card to the computer.

I was reading that somebody else was experiencing things such as opening the log and transfer window and not seeing anything for a minute or so, nor any indication that indeed FCP is seeing the card or trying to read from it... I definitely have the same experience...

I have the same troubles also, but what helps for me is putting the MRC1k in HDV mode and then back to Drive mode. Then the CF is seen without any troubles.

Raul Barcelona · June 17th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Ah, ok. Didn't think to try switching the mode in the menu... Will give that a shot.

Thanks for the tip, Boudewijn,

Raul

Luc De Wandel · June 19th, 2009, 03:28 AM

I find this very strange, because I haven been logging & transferring hunderds of clips via a firewire 800 reader to a Mac 8-core and it never failed. I even find this is the most reliable solution possible. Are you sure there's nothing with the firewire-socket on your Mac?

I must admit though that I had comparable problems with a PC. That's even the main reason I converted my entire equipment into Apple stuff.

Hedley Wright · June 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM

Received my Sandisk Firewire 800 reader yesterday - so far no problems unlike the MRC-1 which just plain won't be seen.

Raul Barcelona · June 20th, 2009, 12:25 AM

Hi Luc, it seems like the thing to do is get a card reader, as opposed to using the Memory Recording Unit that came with the camera.

You say you've been using a firewire 800 reader without a problem, but have you tried logging and trasnfering using the Memory Recording Unit that came with the z7? Do you have a link for the card reader you use, by the way?

I'm sure my firewire connection is fine because I use it all the time for my external LaCie drives as well as for connecting my old Sony PD-170. I don't ever have a problem with the drives mounting through either firewire 800 or 400, nor do I ever have a problem seeing the PD-170 when I try to capture from there.

But for some reason, when I connect the Memory Recording Unit from my z7, it just will not mount on my desktop, and, thus, I will not be able to see it, unless I restart the computer. That is the only way I can get it to show up--which is a pain to have to do every time I want to log clips from a different card...

It seems others on here are having similar problems... I have yet to hear from someone who actually logs and transfers using the MRC-1 without a hitch.

It seems like the best thing to do is skip using the MRC-1 and get a card reader.

You would think, though, that the reader provided by Sony with the camera would do its job...Tsk Tsk...

Raul

Luc De Wandel · June 21st, 2009, 12:54 AM

Hi Raoul,

you're right, I only use the Lexar firewire 800 reader, like in this link:Lexar - Flash memory card readers - Pro CF Reader. The workflow with a reader that is always ready and mounted is much more straightforward. Anyway, I tried connecting the MRC1 in it's cradle, powered with a battery and I get the same problem: my Mac doesn't recognize it! Not a big problem, as I do have the Lexar reader, but you'd expect Sony to deliver something that works flawlessly, especially for the price they charge for it!..

June 12th, 2009, 10:58 PM	#1
Raul Barcelona New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9	CF Card Won't Mount Without Restart Hi everyone, I've been recording simultaneously to tape and the CF card, trying to get into a steady workflow with my z7. I've downloaded the Sony FCP plug-in and have been able to transfer the clips from my CF card to my Mac. The only problem is that I cannot get the CF card to mount on my computer unless I restart the computer itself. So, for instance, I can't just have my computer on and then plug the Memory Recording Unit via Firewire and have it show up when I open FCP>Log & Transfer. I have to restart the computer first, while the Recording Unit is attached--only then can I see the CF. This is a pain when I have to log and transfer from more than one card because I have to quit FCP, and restart the computer once I want to log and transfer from a new card in the same session. Is this normal? Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions? I have tried using two different Firewire cables I have but they do the same...Wondering if it may have to do with having external hard-drives attached...? Any help is greatly appreciated! Raul New York, NY Last edited by Raul Barcelona; June 12th, 2009 at 11:48 PM.

June 16th, 2009, 02:11 AM	#5
Gary Nattrass Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornsay Durham UK Posts: 1,992	You could do one better and get a firewire 800 CF reader, this is the one that I use: SanDisk \| Products \| Accessories \| SanDisk Extreme® Readers __________________ Over 15 minutes in Broadcast Film and TV production: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1044352/

June 14th, 2009, 10:06 PM	#2
Greg Laves Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 640	I don't use FCP but I shot some stuff on my MRC1 for another guy. We didn't use the MRC1 for playback. He had a little card reader that was plugged into a USB port, I think. He didn't have to shut down anything or restart anything. It worked just like you would expect. Perfectly.

June 15th, 2009, 09:07 AM	#4
Raul Barcelona New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9	Thank you guys! It sounds like I should indeed invest in a CF reader rather than sticking with the MRC to log and transfer the clips. $15 seems reasonable enough to get around the problem of the MRC not mounting without restart. If I do figure out why it won't mount without the restart I'll let you know, though! So far no luck... Raul

June 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM	#6
Raul Barcelona New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9	Thanks for the recommendation, Gary. The card readers that go for $15 or so at B&H don't have very good reviews and was looking at the Firewire ones. Firewire 800 would be the optimal in terms of time-saving speed. I'm still wondering if others find that logging and transferring from the Memory Recording Unit is a very unstable process... I'm pretty appalled at how unstable it is in terms of its functionality when it comes to logging and transferring clips from the card to the computer. I was reading that somebody else was experiencing things such as opening the log and transfer window and not seeing anything for a minute or so, nor any indication that indeed FCP is seeing the card or trying to read from it... I definitely have the same experience... Anyway, in any case, seeking a card reader, like the one recommended by Gary should do the trick. I think perhaps I was expecting too much from the gear that came with the camera! Thanks again all for your help! Raul

June 17th, 2009, 10:39 AM	#8
Raul Barcelona New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9	Ah, ok. Didn't think to try switching the mode in the menu... Will give that a shot. Thanks for the tip, Boudewijn, Raul

June 19th, 2009, 03:28 AM	#9
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	I find this very strange, because I haven been logging & transferring hunderds of clips via a firewire 800 reader to a Mac 8-core and it never failed. I even find this is the most reliable solution possible. Are you sure there's nothing with the firewire-socket on your Mac? I must admit though that I had comparable problems with a PC. That's even the main reason I converted my entire equipment into Apple stuff.

June 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM	#10
Hedley Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England Posts: 45	Received my Sandisk Firewire 800 reader yesterday - so far no problems unlike the MRC-1 which just plain won't be seen.

June 20th, 2009, 12:25 AM	#11
Raul Barcelona New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 9	Hi Luc, it seems like the thing to do is get a card reader, as opposed to using the Memory Recording Unit that came with the camera. You say you've been using a firewire 800 reader without a problem, but have you tried logging and trasnfering using the Memory Recording Unit that came with the z7? Do you have a link for the card reader you use, by the way? I'm sure my firewire connection is fine because I use it all the time for my external LaCie drives as well as for connecting my old Sony PD-170. I don't ever have a problem with the drives mounting through either firewire 800 or 400, nor do I ever have a problem seeing the PD-170 when I try to capture from there. But for some reason, when I connect the Memory Recording Unit from my z7, it just will not mount on my desktop, and, thus, I will not be able to see it, unless I restart the computer. That is the only way I can get it to show up--which is a pain to have to do every time I want to log clips from a different card... It seems others on here are having similar problems... I have yet to hear from someone who actually logs and transfers using the MRC-1 without a hitch. It seems like the best thing to do is skip using the MRC-1 and get a card reader. You would think, though, that the reader provided by Sony with the camera would do its job...Tsk Tsk... Raul

June 21st, 2009, 12:54 AM	#12
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Hi Raoul, you're right, I only use the Lexar firewire 800 reader, like in this link:Lexar - Flash memory card readers - Pro CF Reader. The workflow with a reader that is always ready and mounted is much more straightforward. Anyway, I tried connecting the MRC1 in it's cradle, powered with a battery and I get the same problem: my Mac doesn't recognize it! Not a big problem, as I do have the Lexar reader, but you'd expect Sony to deliver something that works flawlessly, especially for the price they charge for it!..