Awesome news for canon users

Bruce S. Yarock · November 13th, 2008, 09:08 AM

I shoot with both a canon A1 and h1 and had a few questions about this unit (Sony HVRMRC1).
1- We edit with Cineform aspect HD to Adobe Premiere CS3. How would importing the m2t files from the unit integrate into our editing workflow?
2- How does the resulting footage compare to the uncompressed files when using that new XDR cf recorder made by Convergent Design?
3- Marty Hudzik brought up an ergonomic question for the H1. I have a gold mount on the back of my H1, which I use to mount an Anton bauer dionic 90, which powers my Frezzi mini fill. I was trying to imagine how I could also mount the sony unit in addition, and i remembered that I had bought an Anton bauer extender plate assy. so that I could mount a Firestore unitafter the battery. I put the additional bracket on, and it looks like it will work ( though I don't have the unit to try).
4- One thing I didn't like about the firestore unit (which I got rid of) was that it connects via firewire. The firewire plug on the H1 is in a terrible location...hopefully it will work better with the Sony. I like the fact that the Convergent design unit uses a bnc plug to communicate.
Any information would be apprecited.
Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video & Photography

Monday Isa · November 14th, 2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerome Cloninger

Hey guys, I'm really excited about this unit as I've stated elsewhere previously. I KNOW these have been covered in this "book" of replies to this thread, but I just want to confirm the following before I buy one of these (and possibly ending up with about 10 for all cams used in business... I wonder if I can get a bulk purchase discount???)

Anyways... final questions:
1- It WILL record 24f/p in HDV mode just fine???

2- How much "real life" can you expect out of the standard battery for continuous recording?

3- You CAN continue to capture footage while changing out a tape without missing a beat???

4- Is there a file size limit (Possibly FAT32 file system?) where it breaks up the files??? ie, can I record say 60 minutes and it be in ONE file? If not, how much of a break is there during seperation of the clips?

5- Has anyone shot with this for a good amount of duration and had any problems with the captured files on the CF card??? ie, corrupted data, etc.

I'm not wanting to completely replace tape... I'll use tape as a backup and hopefully be able to use the card files that will SPEEEED up many of the projects I'll soon be picking up.

Thanks again, and sorry for asking things that was probably already covered, just wanted REAL hard proof by experience (not speculation, hear-say or "manual" knowledge) of these before I buy......

1. Yes
2. N/A for now. I know it says up to 6hrs with the standard battery. If it goes 3hrs I'm happy. Will know sat.
3. N/A
4. Fat32 Limits to 4gb size. It just splits the file with no break. You can connect the two later in your nle
5. N/A

I know others will be able to answer 2, 3, and 5 for you in specific. Take Care

Dave Stern · November 15th, 2008, 02:51 PM

I think asked already but not answered, does the Sony HVRMRC1 come with a battery? it looks like from the photo of 'box opening' it doesn't (??) ... but the B&H site doesn't say which battery is needed... can anyone say and also example of a charger? all my cameras are canon so I am thinking I'll need sony style battery and charger, correct?
thanks..

Randy Panado · November 15th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Stern

I think asked already but not answered, does the Sony HVRMRC1 come with a battery? it looks like from the photo of 'box opening' it doesn't (??) ... but the B&H site doesn't say which battery is needed... can anyone say and also example of a charger? all my cameras are canon so I am thinking I'll need sony style battery and charger, correct?
thanks..

There is no battery included. Some use the L series batteries as they are slim and give the CF recorder enough power for a good amount of recording time.

Jerome Cloninger · November 15th, 2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

1. Yes
2. N/A for now. I know it says up to 6hrs with the standard battery. If it goes 3hrs I'm happy. Will know sat.
3. N/A
4. Fat32 Limits to 4gb size. It just splits the file with no break. You can connect the two later in your nle
5. N/A

I know others will be able to answer 2, 3, and 5 for you in specific. Take Care

Thanks Monday... I may soon be ordering the first 2. Knowing the files are broken without missing a beat, that is great news...

Monday Isa · November 16th, 2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Stern

I think asked already but not answered, does the Sony HVRMRC1 come with a battery? it looks like from the photo of 'box opening' it doesn't (??) ... but the B&H site doesn't say which battery is needed... can anyone say and also example of a charger? all my cameras are canon so I am thinking I'll need sony style battery and charger, correct?
thanks..

As Randy said you will need to purchase a battery for the recorder and also a charger. It does not come with either. It does work with non sony NP-f570 or bigger type batteries.

Dave Stern · November 17th, 2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

As Randy said you will need to purchase a battery for the recorder and also a charger. It does not come with either. It does work with non sony NP-f570 or bigger type batteries.

so how did it go, did you use it this past weekend? how was it to use? have you checked out the files yet?

Monday Isa · November 17th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Stern

so how did it go, did you use it this past weekend? how was it to use? have you checked out the files yet?

It worked very well. Loaded the footage to the computer quickly and was able to start editing right away. Very good investment I must say. I must admit I was very confused at first with how to use the device. I turned on the memory recorder first then the camera and it would not sync at all. Then I followed Evan's process with having the camera on first without the fire wire port in the cam and then connect it to the recorder and it worked with no problems. I know someone else may make the same mistake. I must say with the small 570 battery attached to the recorder it feels like it weighs easily 2lbs. I Velcro the device to the back of the canon and tried it with the glidecam and I must say it was heavy.

Hubert Duijzer · November 19th, 2008, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

I Velcro the device to the back of the canon and tried it with the glidecam and I must say it was heavy.

I'm very interested in the MRC1, can you show a picture of it velcro'd to the back of your A1?

Tiffany McMichael · November 19th, 2008, 07:01 AM

Hi Monday,

Maybe you've posted the reason and I've missed it, but why don't you mount the MRCK1 in the hotshoe? I find it to be quite light and equally balanced there...even with a battery like the F730.

Monday Isa · November 19th, 2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubert Duijzer

I'm very interested in the MRC1, can you show a picture of it velcro'd to the back of your A1?

I'll post it tonight for you when I get back home.

Monday Isa · November 19th, 2008, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiffany McMichael

Hi Monday,

Maybe you've posted the reason and I've missed it, but why don't you mount the MRCK1 in the hotshoe? I find it to be quite light and equally balanced there...even with a battery like the F730.

The Problem is I use two wireless mics for my events and when not using that I use a light as well, and only have 1 hot shoe and 1 strap. So it was easier for me to velcro it on the back than the top where it will shifts the balance of the camera for me. I can get use to it but I really like it on the back of the camera instead, and it feels well balanced as well. Not everyone will feel comfortable with putting it back there.

Monday

Randy Panado · November 21st, 2008, 12:03 AM

Read through the manual and you can't record audio during tape changes. Shucks. Also, it seems you can't start the CF unit to record via the CF unit and then have the camcorder start via the record button on the camcorder to have one recording independently of the other.

I wanted to buy this thing so I could record video AND audio during tape changes. Seems I can't continue recording through a tape change OR I would have to record during the tape change and not during normal operation based on what the manual says.

:(

Even with those shortcomings, it's still amazing and I'll end up buying it anyway as it will help the studio I work with to more easily do same day edits. Maybe those expectations I had were a bit much?

Monday Isa · November 21st, 2008, 08:55 PM

I've got to admit the cache setting on this device is totally AWESOME!!! It buffer records 7 secs till you hit that record button. Now it's great knowing you can catch that special moment with 7secs buffer record without worrying you missed something. Of course your camera has to be pointed in that direction of the moment taking place. What a nice feature! Sorry for rambling on here but you can tell I'm pretty excited.

Randy Panado · November 21st, 2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

I've got to admit the cache setting on this device is totally AWESOME!!! It buffer records 7 secs till you hit that record button. Now it's great knowing you can catch that special moment with 7secs buffer record without worrying you missed something. Of course your camera has to be pointed in that direction of the moment taking place. What a nice feature! Sorry for rambling on here but you can tell I'm pretty excited.

Yeah, saw that and thought "oOooOOOo!" heh

Does it record the audio as well?

November 13th, 2008, 09:08 AM	#166
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	I shoot with both a canon A1 and h1 and had a few questions about this unit (Sony HVRMRC1). 1- We edit with Cineform aspect HD to Adobe Premiere CS3. How would importing the m2t files from the unit integrate into our editing workflow? 2- How does the resulting footage compare to the uncompressed files when using that new XDR cf recorder made by Convergent Design? 3- Marty Hudzik brought up an ergonomic question for the H1. I have a gold mount on the back of my H1, which I use to mount an Anton bauer dionic 90, which powers my Frezzi mini fill. I was trying to imagine how I could also mount the sony unit in addition, and i remembered that I had bought an Anton bauer extender plate assy. so that I could mount a Firestore unitafter the battery. I put the additional bracket on, and it looks like it will work ( though I don't have the unit to try). 4- One thing I didn't like about the firestore unit (which I got rid of) was that it connects via firewire. The firewire plug on the H1 is in a terrible location...hopefully it will work better with the Sony. I like the fact that the Convergent design unit uses a bnc plug to communicate. Any information would be apprecited. Bruce Yarock Yarock Video & Photography

November 15th, 2008, 02:51 PM	#168
Dave Stern Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 391	I think asked already but not answered, does the Sony HVRMRC1 come with a battery? it looks like from the photo of 'box opening' it doesn't (??) ... but the B&H site doesn't say which battery is needed... can anyone say and also example of a charger? all my cameras are canon so I am thinking I'll need sony style battery and charger, correct? thanks..

November 19th, 2008, 07:01 AM	#175
Tiffany McMichael New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 23	Hi Monday, Maybe you've posted the reason and I've missed it, but why don't you mount the MRCK1 in the hotshoe? I find it to be quite light and equally balanced there...even with a battery like the F730.

November 21st, 2008, 12:03 AM	#178
Randy Panado Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 643	Read through the manual and you can't record audio during tape changes. Shucks. Also, it seems you can't start the CF unit to record via the CF unit and then have the camcorder start via the record button on the camcorder to have one recording independently of the other. I wanted to buy this thing so I could record video AND audio during tape changes. Seems I can't continue recording through a tape change OR I would have to record during the tape change and not during normal operation based on what the manual says. :( Even with those shortcomings, it's still amazing and I'll end up buying it anyway as it will help the studio I work with to more easily do same day edits. Maybe those expectations I had were a bit much?

November 21st, 2008, 08:55 PM	#179
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	I've got to admit the cache setting on this device is totally AWESOME!!! It buffer records 7 secs till you hit that record button. Now it's great knowing you can catch that special moment with 7secs buffer record without worrying you missed something. Of course your camera has to be pointed in that direction of the moment taking place. What a nice feature! Sorry for rambling on here but you can tell I'm pretty excited.