Kona LH Card With HD XDCAM

Rob Stiff · January 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM

Maybe Kona can not fully support HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage?

Is anyone certain BlackMagic/Deck link on a MAC PRO TOWER
using HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage will output realtime footage
to a second monitor/plasma while playing back realtime on the
desktop and realtime multicam on the desktop?

Phil Bloom · January 14th, 2007, 05:45 AM

I really dont know about multicam. Never used it.

Here is a question. When using the Kona and a blackmagic hdlink playing the audio through line out of the computer, is the sound syncd to the desktop of the hdlink? There is a slight difference and critical music edits are tricky! Not sure which one to go for!

Phil Bloom · January 14th, 2007, 05:47 AM

I have answered my own question...its the output through the kona that is audio synced

Rob Stiff · January 14th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Before I buy a Black Magic Card:

Nate, one last time wanting to reconfirm if the BlackMagic HD Card on a MAC PRO TOWER using HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage will output realtime footage
to a second monitor/plasma while playing back realtime on the
desktop and realtime multicam on the desktop?

Nate Weaver · January 15th, 2007, 12:25 AM

Yes, it does. I don't have a Mac Pro, just a dual 2.0 G5, but it would work.

Alister Chapman · January 15th, 2007, 11:51 AM

I can confirm that you will get real-time on a Macpro with a BM card. I recommend at least 2 Gig of ram, preferably 4Gig.

Ronald Wilk · February 3rd, 2007, 02:33 PM

Hi:

Sorry to jump into your thread but I have a brand new Kona LH waiting to be installed in a Mac G5 dual and I have a newbie question regarding its coexistance with the Mac's AGP Ati Radeon graphics card. Simply put, can I leave the the Ati in the G5 to be used for Photoshop and similar software and install the Kona for, at the present time, FCP 5.1.2 video (JVC HD-250U) capture and an eventual additional composite monitor?
Thank you for your patience and assistance,
Ron

Mike Curtis · February 3rd, 2007, 04:06 PM

you leave the ATI in (assuming we are talking the original, single graphics card, not a second additional card) and add the Kona elsewhere. They serve entirely different functions.

Ronald Wilk · February 3rd, 2007, 05:30 PM

Hi Mike:

Thank you for your reply and yes, I was referring to the single Ati Radeon AGP graphics card. The Kona manual seemed to imply that any other muli-media card should be removed to avoid conflict and I really didn't know if one would classifiy the AGP card as multimedia.

Thanks again for your reply, you saved me from further weekend angst,
Ron

Rob Stiff · February 9th, 2007, 09:35 PM

Got the Blackmagic Card and it does the realtime 23.98P playback.
Of course if not fully rendered (even with a green line in the timeline) the quality of playback is poor.

When doing a multicam edit I can't seem to get realtime playback
of the selected angles out of the blackmagic card.

Is there some special settings to do this?

January 14th, 2007, 05:45 AM	#32
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I really dont know about multicam. Never used it. Here is a question. When using the Kona and a blackmagic hdlink playing the audio through line out of the computer, is the sound syncd to the desktop of the hdlink? There is a slight difference and critical music edits are tricky! Not sure which one to go for! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 14th, 2007, 05:47 AM	#33
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I have answered my own question...its the output through the kona that is audio synced __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 15th, 2007, 12:25 AM	#35
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Yes, it does. I don't have a Mac Pro, just a dual 2.0 G5, but it would work. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

January 15th, 2007, 11:51 AM	#36
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	I can confirm that you will get real-time on a Macpro with a BM card. I recommend at least 2 Gig of ram, preferably 4Gig. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

February 3rd, 2007, 02:33 PM	#37
Ronald Wilk Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 116	Kona LH installation Hi: Sorry to jump into your thread but I have a brand new Kona LH waiting to be installed in a Mac G5 dual and I have a newbie question regarding its coexistance with the Mac's AGP Ati Radeon graphics card. Simply put, can I leave the the Ati in the G5 to be used for Photoshop and similar software and install the Kona for, at the present time, FCP 5.1.2 video (JVC HD-250U) capture and an eventual additional composite monitor? Thank you for your patience and assistance, Ron

January 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM	#31
Rob Stiff Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 173	Maybe Kona can not fully support HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage? Is anyone certain BlackMagic/Deck link on a MAC PRO TOWER using HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage will output realtime footage to a second monitor/plasma while playing back realtime on the desktop and realtime multicam on the desktop?

January 14th, 2007, 09:33 PM	#34
Rob Stiff Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 173	Before I buy a Black Magic Card: Nate, one last time wanting to reconfirm if the BlackMagic HD Card on a MAC PRO TOWER using HD XDCAM 1080 24p footage will output realtime footage to a second monitor/plasma while playing back realtime on the desktop and realtime multicam on the desktop?

February 3rd, 2007, 04:06 PM	#38
Mike Curtis HD for Indies Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United States Posts: 87	cards you leave the ATI in (assuming we are talking the original, single graphics card, not a second additional card) and add the Kona elsewhere. They serve entirely different functions. __________________ Mike Curtis HD For Indies - Hi Def Filmmaking & Post for Independent Filmmakers http://www.hdforindies.com mike@hdforindies.com

February 3rd, 2007, 05:30 PM	#39
Ronald Wilk Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 116	Kona and Ati Hi Mike: Thank you for your reply and yes, I was referring to the single Ati Radeon AGP graphics card. The Kona manual seemed to imply that any other muli-media card should be removed to avoid conflict and I really didn't know if one would classifiy the AGP card as multimedia. Thanks again for your reply, you saved me from further weekend angst, Ron

February 9th, 2007, 09:35 PM	#40
Rob Stiff Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 173	Got the Blackmagic Card and it does the realtime 23.98P playback. Of course if not fully rendered (even with a green line in the timeline) the quality of playback is poor. When doing a multicam edit I can't seem to get realtime playback of the selected angles out of the blackmagic card. Is there some special settings to do this?