Best NLE For XDCam HD 330 & 350

Nate Weaver · November 12th, 2006, 01:31 PM

I was going to say, Vegas 7 Demo ran in Bootcamp pretty damn speedy for me when I tried it.

Steve Connor · November 12th, 2006, 01:37 PM

A lot of PC users haven't grasped the power of the new Macs, it's a system that can run pretty much ANY software!

Simon Wyndham · November 12th, 2006, 01:55 PM

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Vegas first renders the timeline? An depending on how much FX you have, this could be a fairly lenghty process right?

Yes, Vegas 7 would need to render out a file for mastering back to XDCAM disc. But this is the same for any NLE. This would only need to be done at the end of a project. And no, it isn't a lengthy process. Vegas 7 renders very quickly depending on your hardware.

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Also, this step would be necessary to playout a Vegas timeline through the now supported third party hardware like DeckLink and others, correct?

No. Vegas will play everything in realtime. How smooth the playback is though will depend on your hardware. So, for simple projects you could play straight out through the Decklink since it can be used for monitoring on an external monitor. But if you have a lot of layers then yes, you will need to render. It all depends on your project.

Nigel Cooper · November 12th, 2006, 03:33 PM

I know what you mean Steve, but Bootcamp is buggy as hell right now and we are talking Windows after all.

Steve Connor · November 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM

I'm not advocating using Windows and Vegas at all, I'm not a big fan of either of them, but if you want to use Vegas as well as FCP on the same machine you can. Although I'll bow to other peoples experience on how Bootcamp is at the moment.

David Tamés · November 13th, 2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nigel Cooper

I know what you mean Steve, but Bootcamp is buggy as hell right now and we are talking Windows after all.

Bootcamp may be buggy right now, however, give Parallels Desktop for Mac a try for running Windows XP and Windows applications on Intel Mac. They offer a 15-day trial activation key so you can take it for a spin and decide for yourself if it's as good as they say it is. The performance is excellent. Now you can have the best of both worlds... Vegas and Final Cut :-) on the same Intel Mac and swing both ways, Mac and PC.

Hornady Setiawan · November 17th, 2006, 07:29 AM

a Mac-guy-friend-of-mine tried Parallel's, he said it's not very feasible, because you'll need a lot of ram, since Parallel's itself took out much ram. So if your mac book has only 1 GB, you can forget about any windows editing apps.
* that's what he said... correct me if it's wrong...

Alister Chapman · November 17th, 2006, 12:04 PM

It is true that Parallels eats ram, but that's to be expected as you are running two operating systems at the same time. However it's a lot cheaper to stick an extra gig of ram in a macbook (or powermac) than it is to buy a PC for Vegas. One really nice feature is the ability to use the batch processing capabilities of Vegas, storing the files in the Parallels shared folder and then open them in FCP for editing without having to re-boot or swap drives or send stuff over a network. You do really need at least 2gig of Ram to run Vegas and FCP at the same time.

George David · December 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM

Alister, the workflow you mentioned regarding Vegas and FCP is what I'm looking for. Would you care to comment and elaborate more on that? I'll try parallells today. Thanks.

Andy Mees · December 15th, 2006, 11:28 AM

although mentioned earlier. and even tho I'm not a fan per se ... let me throw in another mention of Canopus Edius 4.1. recently added XDCAM import and export options with full proxy editing support.

November 12th, 2006, 01:31 PM	#31
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	I was going to say, Vegas 7 Demo ran in Bootcamp pretty damn speedy for me when I tried it. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

November 17th, 2006, 12:04 PM	#38
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	It is true that Parallels eats ram, but that's to be expected as you are running two operating systems at the same time. However it's a lot cheaper to stick an extra gig of ram in a macbook (or powermac) than it is to buy a PC for Vegas. One really nice feature is the ability to use the batch processing capabilities of Vegas, storing the files in the Parallels shared folder and then open them in FCP for editing without having to re-boot or swap drives or send stuff over a network. You do really need at least 2gig of Ram to run Vegas and FCP at the same time. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

November 12th, 2006, 01:37 PM	#32
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	A lot of PC users haven't grasped the power of the new Macs, it's a system that can run pretty much ANY software!

November 12th, 2006, 03:33 PM	#34
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	I know what you mean Steve, but Bootcamp is buggy as hell right now and we are talking Windows after all.

November 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM	#35
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	I'm not advocating using Windows and Vegas at all, I'm not a big fan of either of them, but if you want to use Vegas as well as FCP on the same machine you can. Although I'll bow to other peoples experience on how Bootcamp is at the moment.

November 17th, 2006, 07:29 AM	#37
Hornady Setiawan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 103	a Mac-guy-friend-of-mine tried Parallel's, he said it's not very feasible, because you'll need a lot of ram, since Parallel's itself took out much ram. So if your mac book has only 1 GB, you can forget about any windows editing apps. * that's what he said... correct me if it's wrong...

December 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM	#39
George David Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 150	Alister, the workflow you mentioned regarding Vegas and FCP is what I'm looking for. Would you care to comment and elaborate more on that? I'll try parallells today. Thanks.

December 15th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#40
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	although mentioned earlier. and even tho I'm not a fan per se ... let me throw in another mention of Canopus Edius 4.1. recently added XDCAM import and export options with full proxy editing support.