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Max Kaiser · October 3rd, 2006, 10:44 AM

Does anyone out there with a 330 have any suggestions for an inexpensive (relatively) AC/DC HD LCD field monitor? Also, what outputs do you use for this ? Since there is no SDI, do you have to use component, or can you use the composite out of the rear of the camera?

Thanks!
Max

Max Kaiser · October 5th, 2006, 03:11 PM

Hmm. No takers.

Well, I've done some research and looks like the Marshall 7" would fit the bill, and even use my existing batteries for power. I'm still just not sure about the composite output on the back of the camera. Will this be HD, or SD?

Thanks,
Max

Nate Weaver · October 5th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Composite is always SD only.

There's no such thing as a composite HD signal.

Max Kaiser · October 5th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Thanks! That's exactly what I did NOT know. So, i guess with the 330 I'll need to use the component cables. Bummer as this will be a lot more cable weight, etc.

Thanks very much for the info.

Nate Weaver · October 5th, 2006, 04:28 PM

There's lightweight component cables available, you just have to hunt them down. I know what you're talking about though...not wanting to use something from Comprehensive or the like because it'll be a beast.

You should PM Charles Papert, Steadicam guys like him are always interested in lightweight, flexible cables and usually know where to get them made.

Dan Brazda · October 5th, 2006, 05:44 PM

I have the Marshall HD field monitor and feed it HD-SDI from the camera. It mounts on the camera hot shoe. I have the 350 though. Doesn't the 330 have HD-SDI out?

Nate Weaver · October 5th, 2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Brazda

Doesn't the 330 have HD-SDI out?

Nope. Component and composite only.

Brian Jansen · October 5th, 2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Brazda

I have the Marshall HD field monitor and feed it HD-SDI from the camera. It mounts on the camera hot shoe. I have the 350 though. Doesn't the 330 have HD-SDI out?

Hi Dan,
Which Marshall are you using? How is it for focus and outside usage?
I am considering a LCD for the 330 and just found this company.
Can anyone comment on these LCD's?
http://www.bolandcom.com/

Alister Chapman · October 6th, 2006, 01:47 AM

I had a look a the boland website and if you look throught the specs the 8.4" HD monitor appears to only have a resolution of 450TVL which is pretty much useless for HD.

Dan Brazda · October 6th, 2006, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Jansen

Hi Dan,
Which Marshall are you using? How is it for focus and outside usage?
I am considering a LCD for the 330 and just found this company.
Can anyone comment on these LCD's?
http://www.bolandcom.com/

We're not happy with the Marshal V-R65P-HD. A lot of nice features and it looks great on paper (even though it's an HD monitor that is only 800 x 480) but we can't get it anywhere even close to our reference monitor in the studio with regard to brightness/contrast/saturation...etc... I'd love it if Sony or someone else out there had something better. Anyone else know of a good HD, lightweight field monitor?

Nate Weaver · October 6th, 2006, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Brazda

Anyone else know of a good HD, lightweight field monitor?

Well...

Sony LMD-9050
Panasonic BT-LH900
ERG EV-85
Astro WM-3004
Astro DM-3008

Plan on about $4000 for any of these.

Dan Brazda · October 6th, 2006, 09:56 AM

One of the few things I like about the Marshal is that it is 16 x 9. Any others like that out there that have better colorimetry? I know the 4 x 3 ones are switchable or have 16 x 9 frame markers but I prefer the true 16 x 9 types.

Nate Weaver · October 6th, 2006, 12:20 PM

You seem to have described yourself right into the Astro monitors.

Keith Rollinson · October 6th, 2006, 01:35 PM

Hi Max,

Heard you went w/ the 330 -- congrats. From the same vendor, we purchased and are using a Panasonic BT-LH1700W for a location monitor w/ our 350. Waaaay bigger/heavier than a Marshall, but you can actually learn to trust what you see on the screen, and it has a built-in waveform/v-scope for additional monitoring. Street price under $3K, and it displays HD detail not visible w/ lesser lcd monitors.

Keith

Dutch Rall · October 6th, 2006, 02:19 PM

The 7 inch Marshal has worked well for us.

Small enough to mount on the camera, but I've been using it on an old still cam tripod which my grip uses to back-seat focus assist/ comp.

We also use rca component cables and leave the connectors on the 330 and monitor for quicker set-up and to avoid any cable-tripping/ camera crashing disasters.

You'll like the 330. Congratulations.

October 3rd, 2006, 10:44 AM	#1
Max Kaiser Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 66	XD 330 Field Monitor Does anyone out there with a 330 have any suggestions for an inexpensive (relatively) AC/DC HD LCD field monitor? Also, what outputs do you use for this ? Since there is no SDI, do you have to use component, or can you use the composite out of the rear of the camera? Thanks! Max __________________ ---------------- Max Kaiser Director, Hand Crank Films http://www.handcrankfilms.com

October 5th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#2
Max Kaiser Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 66	Hmm. No takers. Well, I've done some research and looks like the Marshall 7" would fit the bill, and even use my existing batteries for power. I'm still just not sure about the composite output on the back of the camera. Will this be HD, or SD? Thanks, Max __________________ ---------------- Max Kaiser Director, Hand Crank Films http://www.handcrankfilms.com

October 5th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#3
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Composite is always SD only. There's no such thing as a composite HD signal. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 5th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#4
Max Kaiser Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 66	Thanks! That's exactly what I did NOT know. So, i guess with the 330 I'll need to use the component cables. Bummer as this will be a lot more cable weight, etc. Thanks very much for the info. __________________ ---------------- Max Kaiser Director, Hand Crank Films http://www.handcrankfilms.com

October 5th, 2006, 04:28 PM	#5
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	There's lightweight component cables available, you just have to hunt them down. I know what you're talking about though...not wanting to use something from Comprehensive or the like because it'll be a beast. You should PM Charles Papert, Steadicam guys like him are always interested in lightweight, flexible cables and usually know where to get them made. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 5th, 2006, 05:44 PM	#6
Dan Brazda Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 165	I have the Marshall HD field monitor and feed it HD-SDI from the camera. It mounts on the camera hot shoe. I have the 350 though. Doesn't the 330 have HD-SDI out?

October 6th, 2006, 01:47 AM	#9
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	I had a look a the boland website and if you look throught the specs the 8.4" HD monitor appears to only have a resolution of 450TVL which is pretty much useless for HD. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 6th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#12
Dan Brazda Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 165	One of the few things I like about the Marshal is that it is 16 x 9. Any others like that out there that have better colorimetry? I know the 4 x 3 ones are switchable or have 16 x 9 frame markers but I prefer the true 16 x 9 types.

October 6th, 2006, 12:20 PM	#13
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	You seem to have described yourself right into the Astro monitors. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 6th, 2006, 01:35 PM	#14
Keith Rollinson Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Greenfield, MA usa Posts: 167	Pansonic field monitor Hi Max, Heard you went w/ the 330 -- congrats. From the same vendor, we purchased and are using a Panasonic BT-LH1700W for a location monitor w/ our 350. Waaaay bigger/heavier than a Marshall, but you can actually learn to trust what you see on the screen, and it has a built-in waveform/v-scope for additional monitoring. Street price under $3K, and it displays HD detail not visible w/ lesser lcd monitors. Keith

October 6th, 2006, 02:19 PM	#15
Dutch Rall Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: LA, CA Posts: 50	The 7 inch Marshal has worked well for us. Small enough to mount on the camera, but I've been using it on an old still cam tripod which my grip uses to back-seat focus assist/ comp. We also use rca component cables and leave the connectors on the 330 and monitor for quicker set-up and to avoid any cable-tripping/ camera crashing disasters. You'll like the 330. Congratulations. __________________ http://www.dutchrall.com