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Alister Chapman · September 8th, 2006, 12:55 PM

I'll try and get more info tomorrow but Sony have a development model of a new USB 2 XDCAM drive at IBC. It has a slot for the XDCAM HD disk plus an integral hard drive. This would be a very handy device for capturing and export without the cost of a deck.

Andy Walton · September 8th, 2006, 01:23 PM

Hi, any news on the firmware upgrade?

Andy

Nate Weaver · September 8th, 2006, 04:23 PM

Make that drive $2000, and I'm sold.

Has anybody tested the existing PDW-V1 or whatever it is data drive with an HD disc? I can't imagine it doesn't work, but I know it's $4k.

Alister Chapman · September 11th, 2006, 11:13 AM

Price expected to be 2000 euros so not too bad. Firmware update for cameras and decks out very soon will add 10 second memory cache mode on F350, improved gamma with increased camera dynamic range.

Simon Wyndham · September 11th, 2006, 03:50 PM

Mmmmm. Very interesting. I know there are some very nice new features in the new firmware, but the bit about the gamma sounds really interesting. Especially as both the SD and HD XD's are having the update.

Greg Boston · September 12th, 2006, 03:11 PM

How about the ability to delete any clip, not just the last one? And what if the new firmware fixed the problem of taking longer than realtime in FAM mode to transfer a clip with in/out points using XDCAM transfer with FCP.

Not that I have any knowledge or anything ;-)

-gb-

Simon Wyndham · September 12th, 2006, 03:54 PM

My lips are sealed sorry. :-)

Greg Boston · September 12th, 2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham

My lips are sealed sorry. :-)

I was told to keep quiet, but I've seen others such as Clive and Allister posting info so I have to question why I should keep silent.

-gb-

Nate Weaver · September 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM

See, I'm not encumbered by the fact that anybody actually told me anything.

I heard that the new firmware will cook me dinner :-)

Alister Chapman · September 13th, 2006, 01:22 AM

The partial clip import on FCP is slow because the software has to stream through the whole clip until it reaches the in point and at that point it starts to transfer the clip to the hard drive. So if you only want the last 10 seconds of a 30 sec clip it has to go through the first 20 secs before the transfer starts. There may be some small improvements in the speed when V1.1 of the transfer software comes out along with FCP 5.1.2 which we had up and running at IBC and should be out in the next few weeks. There will be some changes to clip naming and arbitrary clip delete comming very soon. Avid will release full XDCAM support on media composer by the end of the year.

The difference in the ways Avid and FCP handle and use the proxies are quite interesting. Avid can edit the proxies in the timeline while FCP uses the proxies to pre-select the full res images. With FCP you can transfer in the background while avid can not. Avid are working on a way to import the full quality audio with the proxies as it is a common complaint that the proxy audio is too poor.

Simon Wyndham · September 13th, 2006, 02:38 AM

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I was told to keep quiet, but I've seen others such as Clive and Allister posting info so I have to question why I should keep silent.

Dunno, maybe Sony told them they could go around telling everyone one. Myself. I'll just do as I'm told. :-)

Greg Boston · September 13th, 2006, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

The partial clip import on FCP is slow because the software has to stream through the whole clip until it reaches the in point and at that point it starts to transfer the clip to the hard drive. So if you only want the last 10 seconds of a 30 sec clip it has to go through the first 20 secs before the transfer starts. There may be some small improvements in the speed when V1.1 of the transfer software comes out along with FCP 5.1.2 which we had up and running at IBC and should be out in the next few weeks.

Alister,

I was told it is a camera issue that should be addressed in the next firmware upgrade. Perhaps the software will get optimized as well, but the firmware is supposed to optimize speed of cueing up the clips in the camera so I'm thinking this is where they'll fix it.

I have to give kudos to Sony for being so supportive and seeking input from the early adopters.

-gb-

Simon Wyndham · September 13th, 2006, 07:46 AM

Quote:

I heard that the new firmware will cook me dinner :-)

It will. I heard that it makes the camera very good at steaming vegetables.

Greg Boston · September 13th, 2006, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham

It will. I heard that it makes the camera very good at steaming vegetables.

Will we be able to download additional recipes and load them via memory stick? I get tired of steamed vegetables in short order. ;-)

-gb-

Simon Wyndham · September 13th, 2006, 08:02 AM

Sony will be releasing vegatables in different colour tones. Standard, and Cinetones. Cinetones will be a bit more exotic.

XDCAM HD owners will benefit from the new 'Chefs special order' menu option.

September 8th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#1
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	XDCAM USB Drive I'll try and get more info tomorrow but Sony have a development model of a new USB 2 XDCAM drive at IBC. It has a slot for the XDCAM HD disk plus an integral hard drive. This would be a very handy device for capturing and export without the cost of a deck. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 8th, 2006, 04:23 PM	#3
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Make that drive $2000, and I'm sold. Has anybody tested the existing PDW-V1 or whatever it is data drive with an HD disc? I can't imagine it doesn't work, but I know it's $4k. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

September 11th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#4
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Price expected to be 2000 euros so not too bad. Firmware update for cameras and decks out very soon will add 10 second memory cache mode on F350, improved gamma with increased camera dynamic range. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM	#9
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	See, I'm not encumbered by the fact that anybody actually told me anything. I heard that the new firmware will cook me dinner :-) __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

September 13th, 2006, 01:22 AM	#10
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	The partial clip import on FCP is slow because the software has to stream through the whole clip until it reaches the in point and at that point it starts to transfer the clip to the hard drive. So if you only want the last 10 seconds of a 30 sec clip it has to go through the first 20 secs before the transfer starts. There may be some small improvements in the speed when V1.1 of the transfer software comes out along with FCP 5.1.2 which we had up and running at IBC and should be out in the next few weeks. There will be some changes to clip naming and arbitrary clip delete comming very soon. Avid will release full XDCAM support on media composer by the end of the year. The difference in the ways Avid and FCP handle and use the proxies are quite interesting. Avid can edit the proxies in the timeline while FCP uses the proxies to pre-select the full res images. With FCP you can transfer in the background while avid can not. Avid are working on a way to import the full quality audio with the proxies as it is a common complaint that the proxy audio is too poor. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 8th, 2006, 01:23 PM	#2
Andy Walton New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 21	Hi, any news on the firmware upgrade? Andy

September 11th, 2006, 03:50 PM	#5
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Mmmmm. Very interesting. I know there are some very nice new features in the new firmware, but the bit about the gamma sounds really interesting. Especially as both the SD and HD XD's are having the update.

September 12th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#6
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	How about the ability to delete any clip, not just the last one? And what if the new firmware fixed the problem of taking longer than realtime in FAM mode to transfer a clip with in/out points using XDCAM transfer with FCP. Not that I have any knowledge or anything ;-) -gb-

September 12th, 2006, 03:54 PM	#7
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	My lips are sealed sorry. :-)

September 13th, 2006, 08:02 AM	#15
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Sony will be releasing vegatables in different colour tones. Standard, and Cinetones. Cinetones will be a bit more exotic. XDCAM HD owners will benefit from the new 'Chefs special order' menu option.