Sony XDCAM HD -- various topics

Dean Harrington · September 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM

Any thoughts on this new cam?
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/1683...-hd-camcorder/

Greg Boston · September 18th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Dean, with all due respect, you're a bit late to the party. You'll find plenty of thoughts and discussion in the XDCAM EX forum.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=150

Please direct all reading and inquiries over there.

Thanks,

-gb-

Mike Watson · September 18th, 2007, 11:01 PM

I've had no luck with "consumer" HD formats yet... in presentations, I have used a mac outputting an HD quicktime, but have yet to successfully put out an HD-DVD (which DVD Studio Pro can do).

As for the winner of the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war, I predict the internet (and torrents, with their lower bitrate, and lower file-size), much like CDs trumped MiniDiscs (which were recordable, and sounded better) and DVDs trumped laserdiscs. The masses would prefer convenience, rather than quality. Disagree? Search google for a little startup called "YouTube".

Ivan Snoeckx · September 19th, 2007, 06:34 AM

Here is the new XDCAM HD Family brochure.

Ivan Snoeckx · September 19th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Here is the preliminary brochure from the XDCAM HD422 camcorder PDW-700 and deck PDW-HD1500.

Preliminary brochure PDW-700 & PDW-HD1500

Andrew Mcarrick · September 20th, 2007, 04:13 PM

I know that on the SRW-1 (and I'm assuming the SRW-5800 will be able to also.) you can use the 3D mode to record two video inputs to one tape. Now is that 4:2:2 signal coming from a 2:2:2 signal (so the first channel gets combined) or is it truely two individual 4:2:2 signals? Since it's called 3D mode, I figured that might use the two cameras to come up with the luminance for both (since shooting 3D they'd be right next to each other).
So two inputs would each record 2:2:2 and then the luminance channel would be combined to form two 4:2:2 channels.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at running 2 F900s to one SRW-1 or SRW5800; Cutting down the amount of stock we need.

(I already know 2 channels gets you recording at 880Mbps).

Nate Weaver · September 20th, 2007, 09:31 PM

As I understand it, it's a true 2-channel system suitable for use as you describe.

Dan Brazda · September 25th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Anyone have a good outlet for purchasing one? Anyone have a more affordable/comparable alternative for taking the guesswork out of back focus?

Klaas van Urk · September 26th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Dan,

Maybe these PDF's help you out. Print them and use them as a target for backfocus adjustment.

http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...cus%20card.pdf
http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...ity%20card.pdf

Geoff Browne · September 29th, 2007, 07:41 PM

If I will be shooting on this camera - the Sony XD HD 350 and then transfering to 35mm film, what's the best setting to put the camera at? 23.94 p? And when I put the camera to this does it automatically put the camera into 1080p and 16:9?

Thank you and I look forward to hearing the reply.

Kalunga Lima · October 4th, 2007, 04:06 PM

Has anyone compared the SD down converted results of shooting in 1080/25p vs 1080/50i.

I am shooting a music video with a brand new F350, destined for SD broadcast (DVCam tape submission) as well as possible future DVD release.

My plan is to shoot in 1080/25p (1/50 shutter, cine gamma 2), edit natively and then down convert in Final Cut Studio to SD.

Past posts seem to indicate that 1080/25p is the best way to go for DVD delivery, but how does it fare when down converted to SD.

I am also unsure if it makes any difference down converting the final XDCam HD edit to some other SD format like DVCPro50 rather thn Pal DV, if I'm going to export to tape via firewire to a HVR-M25 deck in DVCam mode.

Lastly, will exporting via HDMI (Blackmagic Intensity) to the HVR-M25 s opposed to firewire make any difference?

Jay Chance · October 11th, 2007, 05:34 PM

I have not used the transfer program a whole lot with the XD Cam. I mainly digitize thru a Kona card in HDSDI. In using the transfer program, my originally shot stereo audio comes into fcp as 2 mono tracks. Has anyone had any luck importing in stereo? And if so, which setting am I missing?

Andy Mees · October 11th, 2007, 11:26 PM

its just the way the XDCAM Transfer application handles audio (as discrete mono tracks)

fwiw the data has not been changed any; whether the audio pairs are handled as dual mono or stereo is just an information flag

just select the 2 mono tracks in the timeline and choose Modify > Stereo Pair from the menu, thereafter those tracks will be treated as a stereo pair

R. Michael Murray · October 12th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Looking for experienced XDcamHD shooter in Chicago area to shoot a single interview. Anyone have any leads?

Thanks,

Mike Murray
Media Production Group
Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH

Tim Allison · October 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM

...in a system along with your XDCAM gear? In this difficult change-over time between SD and HD, we will actually have three active formats in our shop; BetacamSP, HDV, and XDCAM-HD. We plan on using the Io-HD to hook up the Beta and HDV. But in order to take advantage of XDCAM's file transfer features, we plan to connect to the computer via the iLink/Firewire cable. Isn't this a Firewire 400 cable?

Additionally, the AJA Io-HD also connects to the computer via a Firewire 800 cable. For those using AJA Io-HD and XDCAM-HD, how are you connecting things together? Are you using the same Firewire bus, for both the XDCAM and the Io-HD? Or have you purchased a PCI Firewire card for one of these connections?

September 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#106
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	new sony cam... Any thoughts on this new cam? http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/1683...-hd-camcorder/

September 18th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#107
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Plenty... Dean, with all due respect, you're a bit late to the party. You'll find plenty of thoughts and discussion in the XDCAM EX forum. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=150 Please direct all reading and inquiries over there. Thanks, -gb-

September 19th, 2007, 06:34 AM	#109
Ivan Snoeckx Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belgium \| Europe Posts: 441	New XDCAM HD Family brochure Here is the new XDCAM HD Family brochure.

September 19th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#110
Ivan Snoeckx Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belgium \| Europe Posts: 441	Preliminary PDW-700 & PDW-HD1500 Brochure Here is the preliminary brochure from the XDCAM HD422 camcorder PDW-700 and deck PDW-HD1500. Preliminary brochure PDW-700 & PDW-HD1500

September 20th, 2007, 04:13 PM	#111
Andrew Mcarrick New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Egg Harbor Township, New Jersey Posts: 21	SRW 3D Mode I know that on the SRW-1 (and I'm assuming the SRW-5800 will be able to also.) you can use the 3D mode to record two video inputs to one tape. Now is that 4:2:2 signal coming from a 2:2:2 signal (so the first channel gets combined) or is it truely two individual 4:2:2 signals? Since it's called 3D mode, I figured that might use the two cameras to come up with the luminance for both (since shooting 3D they'd be right next to each other). So two inputs would each record 2:2:2 and then the luminance channel would be combined to form two 4:2:2 channels. The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at running 2 F900s to one SRW-1 or SRW5800; Cutting down the amount of stock we need. (I already know 2 channels gets you recording at 880Mbps).

September 18th, 2007, 11:01 PM	#108
Mike Watson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,082	I've had no luck with "consumer" HD formats yet... in presentations, I have used a mac outputting an HD quicktime, but have yet to successfully put out an HD-DVD (which DVD Studio Pro can do). As for the winner of the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war, I predict the internet (and torrents, with their lower bitrate, and lower file-size), much like CDs trumped MiniDiscs (which were recordable, and sounded better) and DVDs trumped laserdiscs. The masses would prefer convenience, rather than quality. Disagree? Search google for a little startup called "YouTube".

September 20th, 2007, 09:31 PM	#112
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	As I understand it, it's a true 2-channel system suitable for use as you describe. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

September 25th, 2007, 01:36 PM	#113
Dan Brazda Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 165	Zeiss Sharp Max Anyone have a good outlet for purchasing one? Anyone have a more affordable/comparable alternative for taking the guesswork out of back focus?

September 26th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#114
Klaas van Urk Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hoek, the Netherlands Posts: 67	Dan, Maybe these PDF's help you out. Print them and use them as a target for backfocus adjustment. http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...cus%20card.pdf http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...ity%20card.pdf

September 29th, 2007, 07:41 PM	#115
Geoff Browne Tourist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1	Sony XD HD cam If I will be shooting on this camera - the Sony XD HD 350 and then transfering to 35mm film, what's the best setting to put the camera at? 23.94 p? And when I put the camera to this does it automatically put the camera into 1080p and 16:9? Thank you and I look forward to hearing the reply.

October 4th, 2007, 04:06 PM	#116
Kalunga Lima Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Luanda - ANGOLA & Lisbon - PORTUGAL Posts: 160	1080/25p vs 1080/50i for down converting to SD Has anyone compared the SD down converted results of shooting in 1080/25p vs 1080/50i. I am shooting a music video with a brand new F350, destined for SD broadcast (DVCam tape submission) as well as possible future DVD release. My plan is to shoot in 1080/25p (1/50 shutter, cine gamma 2), edit natively and then down convert in Final Cut Studio to SD. Past posts seem to indicate that 1080/25p is the best way to go for DVD delivery, but how does it fare when down converted to SD. I am also unsure if it makes any difference down converting the final XDCam HD edit to some other SD format like DVCPro50 rather thn Pal DV, if I'm going to export to tape via firewire to a HVR-M25 deck in DVCam mode. Lastly, will exporting via HDMI (Blackmagic Intensity) to the HVR-M25 s opposed to firewire make any difference? __________________ Kalunga Lima PMW-350, PDW-F350, PDW-EX1, MacBookPro, MacPro 8-Core, Final Cut Studio 2, Canon 5D MkII

October 11th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#117
Jay Chance New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 6	import stereo audio from transfer program to fcp I have not used the transfer program a whole lot with the XD Cam. I mainly digitize thru a Kona card in HDSDI. In using the transfer program, my originally shot stereo audio comes into fcp as 2 mono tracks. Has anyone had any luck importing in stereo? And if so, which setting am I missing?

October 11th, 2007, 11:26 PM	#118
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	its just the way the XDCAM Transfer application handles audio (as discrete mono tracks) fwiw the data has not been changed any; whether the audio pairs are handled as dual mono or stereo is just an information flag just select the 2 mono tracks in the timeline and choose Modify > Stereo Pair from the menu, thereafter those tracks will be treated as a stereo pair

October 12th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#119
R. Michael Murray Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1	XDcamHD shooter in Chicago? Looking for experienced XDcamHD shooter in Chicago area to shoot a single interview. Anyone have any leads? Thanks, Mike Murray Media Production Group Dartmouth College Hanover, NH

October 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM	#120
Tim Allison Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Starkville, MS Posts: 96	Is anyone planning to use an AJA Io-HD.... ...in a system along with your XDCAM gear? In this difficult change-over time between SD and HD, we will actually have three active formats in our shop; BetacamSP, HDV, and XDCAM-HD. We plan on using the Io-HD to hook up the Beta and HDV. But in order to take advantage of XDCAM's file transfer features, we plan to connect to the computer via the iLink/Firewire cable. Isn't this a Firewire 400 cable? Additionally, the AJA Io-HD also connects to the computer via a Firewire 800 cable. For those using AJA Io-HD and XDCAM-HD, how are you connecting things together? Are you using the same Firewire bus, for both the XDCAM and the Io-HD? Or have you purchased a PCI Firewire card for one of these connections?