Multicam matching PDW700 at DVinfo.net

Brad Bell · August 29th, 2011, 03:40 AM

Can someone tell me the correct procedure for a matching 4 pdw700 for a multi cam shoot,
Do i need to load cameras with the scene file only or is there other steps like the all file and the user file?
What does a all file contain?
What does a user file contain?
what does a scene file contain?
Any help appreciated!

Doug Jensen · August 29th, 2011, 01:11 PM

Here you go . . .

Vortex Media's XDCAM Field Guides

Uli Mors · August 31st, 2011, 10:51 PM

Hi,

you need a good testchart (DSC Labs Chromadumonde) and a vectorscope + waveform monitor.

Light the testchart and use all cameras "Matrix" and Gamma Settings to create the same results with one chart...

Best regards

ULi

Dennis Dillon · September 1st, 2011, 12:05 PM

Brad,

I think you may be looking for a short cut. Take one file and load it into all cameras. Correct?

Doug's book is the bible for 700/800, and if you are really serious about knowing about the cameras and if you are responsible for placing them on a set, it is a must. There is so much more to these cameras than just common set up.

Uli is also correct in his advice. There can and will be base line differences in like cameras, and using the DSC vector/waveform, (I mean I real vector with 2X) is the only true way of matching them up. This way takes $ also. I have invested in a 1200 (Which expires after 2 years),chart along with a 7000 Waveform/Vector and spent the time aligning/realigning all of my cameras. I am reluctant to pass on files I have generated due to the factors stated above. Unless you pay me 500/camera like some services provide.

That being said you can go download the Sony 700/800 files from Sony. see
Sony | Micro Site XDCAM
And then down load the manual see
http://ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebService...al_Current.pdf

And do the short cut with less than 100% guarantee that all 4 will match.

Des Carolan · September 2nd, 2011, 04:43 AM

The choice of lens on all 4 kits will make a big difference as well. if you try to mix one hd lens with an sd lens they will not match up but depending on the shoot and budget you will just have to do the best you can with what you have. i personally would load the same scene file into the cameras white balance with the same white balance card and tweak the final look by eye if it is not a broadcast shoot. to do it correctly see above posts.
good luck

Uli Mors · September 4th, 2011, 11:16 AM

thats right...

here is my recipe:

If you have no other possibilities: Simply copy an ALL File from the "best" camera to all others.
This doesnt help for different looking lenses of course. But hopefully all 4 are not totally screwed up.

If you have the chance: do the matching via a testchart and an experienced person to set up colors (matrix) and gamma (Gamma Menu), including lens files.

Best regards

ULi

Brad Bell · September 5th, 2011, 12:24 AM

Thanks Uli Dennis and Des for pointing me in the right direction!
I had been loading only the scene file to all cameras with moderate success. I am now thinking the different lenses are what has been is giving me grief.

August 29th, 2011, 03:40 AM	#1
Brad Bell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 7	Multicam matching PDW700 Can someone tell me the correct procedure for a matching 4 pdw700 for a multi cam shoot, Do i need to load cameras with the scene file only or is there other steps like the all file and the user file? What does a all file contain? What does a user file contain? what does a scene file contain? Any help appreciated!

August 29th, 2011, 01:11 PM	#2
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,442	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 Here you go . . . Vortex Media's XDCAM Field Guides __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

August 31st, 2011, 10:51 PM	#3
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 Hi, you need a good testchart (DSC Labs Chromadumonde) and a vectorscope + waveform monitor. Light the testchart and use all cameras "Matrix" and Gamma Settings to create the same results with one chart... Best regards ULi

September 1st, 2011, 12:05 PM	#4
Dennis Dillon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hobe Sound, Florida Posts: 213	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 Brad, I think you may be looking for a short cut. Take one file and load it into all cameras. Correct? Doug's book is the bible for 700/800, and if you are really serious about knowing about the cameras and if you are responsible for placing them on a set, it is a must. There is so much more to these cameras than just common set up. Uli is also correct in his advice. There can and will be base line differences in like cameras, and using the DSC vector/waveform, (I mean I real vector with 2X) is the only true way of matching them up. This way takes $ also. I have invested in a 1200 (Which expires after 2 years),chart along with a 7000 Waveform/Vector and spent the time aligning/realigning all of my cameras. I am reluctant to pass on files I have generated due to the factors stated above. Unless you pay me 500/camera like some services provide. That being said you can go download the Sony 700/800 files from Sony. see Sony \| Micro Site XDCAM And then down load the manual see http://ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebService...al_Current.pdf And do the short cut with less than 100% guarantee that all 4 will match.

September 2nd, 2011, 04:43 AM	#5
Des Carolan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Limerick, Ireland Posts: 19	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 The choice of lens on all 4 kits will make a big difference as well. if you try to mix one hd lens with an sd lens they will not match up but depending on the shoot and budget you will just have to do the best you can with what you have. i personally would load the same scene file into the cameras white balance with the same white balance card and tweak the final look by eye if it is not a broadcast shoot. to do it correctly see above posts. good luck

September 4th, 2011, 11:16 AM	#6
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 thats right... here is my recipe: If you have no other possibilities: Simply copy an ALL File from the "best" camera to all others. This doesnt help for different looking lenses of course. But hopefully all 4 are not totally screwed up. If you have the chance: do the matching via a testchart and an experienced person to set up colors (matrix) and gamma (Gamma Menu), including lens files. Best regards ULi

September 5th, 2011, 12:24 AM	#7
Brad Bell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 7	Re: Multicam matching PDW700 Thanks Uli Dennis and Des for pointing me in the right direction! I had been loading only the scene file to all cameras with moderate success. I am now thinking the different lenses are what has been is giving me grief.