PMW-350 Developing Scene Files (Picture Profiles)

Piotr Wozniacki · November 8th, 2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki

Hi Alister,

May I ask whether you have experimented in the direction of finding the best matching PPs for EX1 and FS100?

I have both, but only now I'm going to use them together - shooting (as usually) live classical music (you know the challenges:)).

Piotr

Sorry I'm quoting my own message - yes, I'm doing it do bump it up :)

Also, I realize this is not the best thread for discussing the FS100 camera, but since you're now talking about matching different cameras, I thought I might rise my issue here after all...

Finally, even if I turned directly to Alister, I'd like to kindly welcome others to comment on the above question of mine. One of the experts whose opinion I'd value particularly high is Doug Jensen - the more so that, unlike Alister, he is a great evangelist of getting the picture right while shooting in the field, rather than leaving everything "to be fixed in post" :)

Thanks in advance,

Piotr

Alister Chapman · November 9th, 2011, 12:03 PM

Why does everyone seem to think I like to fix everything in post? Yes, I like to grade as I can eek out those small nuances that are hard to get right when you shoot, but most of my PP's are designed to generate a useable image straight out of the camera. The use of Cinegammas can make that though as their gamma curves are quite a long way from Rec-709 so there will be a miss-match between reality and the image on the screen, but perhaps that is the look you are seeking.

Anyway I've drifted off.... The FS100's picture profile setting range is courser and more limited that those of the EX's. The processing is also quite different so it makes matching tougher. I did do a PP for an EX1 to get it close to the FS100, but it wasn't perfect and I didn't write down the settings, so at this stage I can't help. Perhaps Doug has dialled them in.

Kevin Langdon · March 6th, 2014, 03:51 PM

Below is a full set of my latest PMW-350 scene files.

Mainly matrix tweaks.
neut2 is one I like that gives rich primary colours while still reasonably true to life.
Cine1 is a sudo filmic look (crushes blacks)
Film1 is meant to emulate well saturated film stock
DSC-1 is based on Chroma-Du-Monde chart for accurate daylight color
Neut is my first matrix tweak for a less green look and warmer skin tones.
Attached Files
File Type: zip alister 350 scene files1.zip (10.7 KB, 426 views)

How do you open these scene files? I've tried to download them onto my laptop and then open them but to no avail.

Kevin Langdon · May 14th, 2014, 01:10 AM

I downloaded the file. Then I dragged and dropped it onto an sxs card next to the Bpav folder and not in it but 'no files' continues to show up when the card's put in the camera.
So slightly confused as to why the files don't show up.

November 9th, 2011, 12:03 PM	#122
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: PMW-350 Developing Scene Files (Picture Profiles) Why does everyone seem to think I like to fix everything in post? Yes, I like to grade as I can eek out those small nuances that are hard to get right when you shoot, but most of my PP's are designed to generate a useable image straight out of the camera. The use of Cinegammas can make that though as their gamma curves are quite a long way from Rec-709 so there will be a miss-match between reality and the image on the screen, but perhaps that is the look you are seeking. Anyway I've drifted off.... The FS100's picture profile setting range is courser and more limited that those of the EX's. The processing is also quite different so it makes matching tougher. I did do a PP for an EX1 to get it close to the FS100, but it wasn't perfect and I didn't write down the settings, so at this stage I can't help. Perhaps Doug has dialled them in. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

March 6th, 2014, 03:51 PM	#123
Kevin Langdon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 120	Re: PMW-350 Developing Scene Files (Picture Profiles) Below is a full set of my latest PMW-350 scene files. Mainly matrix tweaks. neut2 is one I like that gives rich primary colours while still reasonably true to life. Cine1 is a sudo filmic look (crushes blacks) Film1 is meant to emulate well saturated film stock DSC-1 is based on Chroma-Du-Monde chart for accurate daylight color Neut is my first matrix tweak for a less green look and warmer skin tones. Attached Files File Type: zip alister 350 scene files1.zip (10.7 KB, 426 views) How do you open these scene files? I've tried to download them onto my laptop and then open them but to no avail.

May 14th, 2014, 01:10 AM	#124
Kevin Langdon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 120	Re: PMW-350 Developing Scene Files (Picture Profiles) I downloaded the file. Then I dragged and dropped it onto an sxs card next to the Bpav folder and not in it but 'no files' continues to show up when the card's put in the camera. So slightly confused as to why the files don't show up.