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Godfrey Kirby · May 13th, 2008, 12:18 PM

New CMOS chip announced for 350/5, available for retro-fit at modest cost. 50Mps (mPs, MpS, etc.) up-grade at less modest cost. And errrr... Flying pigs!!! Sorry ... just a thought.

Alister Chapman · May 13th, 2008, 01:45 PM

No Thanks. If it was a CCD then I would be interested, but then isn't that the PDW 700?

Godfrey Kirby · May 13th, 2008, 11:50 PM

Just thinking of upgrades that don't cost £30K plus a new set of lenses. The EX has a very nice look, more dots, faster and comes in at a lot less 'beer tokens' - and the EX3 is just around the corner. So just wondering if there were any treats for the the 350 family or is the future some shade of red? And oh, the PDW 700 didn't exist 18 months ago when I jumped in.
Maybe Sony will seek to comfort their 'old pals' by tweaking what they already have rather than let them drift away to another's siren call...... oh dear! more pigs I feel.....

Alister Chapman · May 14th, 2008, 12:59 AM

The 700 is going to have a street price somewhere around £19k for a body and VF. Admittedly a lens won't come cheap. Just because the EX1/3 has more pixels it doesn't make it better. There are many times when my F350 has produced a better image than my EX1 but not many times when my EX1 has produced a better image than my F350. Admittedly they are remarkably close picture wise and the EX1 and EX3 are astounding value for money. Red One is going to cost you close to £30k for a useable system and it really isn't suitable for any kind of run and gun or documentary shooting, it has too many foibles to just grab and go. Like the EX1 the F355/F335 range are incredible value, the optical disk workflow is so simple, easy and robust and with a decent lens the picture quality is up there with the best.

Godfrey Kirby · May 14th, 2008, 06:17 PM

Hi Alister Mmmmmmmm - I'll say that again, Mmmmm! Yes & No. Sony has to make a stand: 'Do we support Independent Film Makers (Idependent - No money)?' or do we do the 'Corporate stuff' - as we have already got the cash off them. I would like to believe that in the black heart of the beast there is a flicker of light - 'Oh,Yes - let's go the extra mile - **** the accountants - we could win a lot of friends..... & we are starting to get competition'. All I can say is that we will not get anywhere without prodding with sharp sticks. Many years ago I had a friend who bullied Taylor Hobson into a new lens and Kays (later Metrocolour) into super 16mm and we, along with Peter Greenaway, made 'Draughtsman's Contract' and the rest is history.

Robb Cox · May 15th, 2008, 04:45 AM

Im pretty sure Sony dont care about being bullied or prodded ;)

May 13th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#1
Godfrey Kirby Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 71	Just suppose.... New CMOS chip announced for 350/5, available for retro-fit at modest cost. 50Mps (mPs, MpS, etc.) up-grade at less modest cost. And errrr... Flying pigs!!! Sorry ... just a thought.

May 13th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	No Thanks. If it was a CCD then I would be interested, but then isn't that the PDW 700? __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

May 14th, 2008, 12:59 AM	#4
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	The 700 is going to have a street price somewhere around £19k for a body and VF. Admittedly a lens won't come cheap. Just because the EX1/3 has more pixels it doesn't make it better. There are many times when my F350 has produced a better image than my EX1 but not many times when my EX1 has produced a better image than my F350. Admittedly they are remarkably close picture wise and the EX1 and EX3 are astounding value for money. Red One is going to cost you close to £30k for a useable system and it really isn't suitable for any kind of run and gun or documentary shooting, it has too many foibles to just grab and go. Like the EX1 the F355/F335 range are incredible value, the optical disk workflow is so simple, easy and robust and with a decent lens the picture quality is up there with the best. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

May 13th, 2008, 11:50 PM	#3
Godfrey Kirby Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 71	Just thinking of upgrades that don't cost £30K plus a new set of lenses. The EX has a very nice look, more dots, faster and comes in at a lot less 'beer tokens' - and the EX3 is just around the corner. So just wondering if there were any treats for the the 350 family or is the future some shade of red? And oh, the PDW 700 didn't exist 18 months ago when I jumped in. Maybe Sony will seek to comfort their 'old pals' by tweaking what they already have rather than let them drift away to another's siren call...... oh dear! more pigs I feel.....

May 14th, 2008, 06:17 PM	#5
Godfrey Kirby Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 71	Hi Alister Mmmmmmmm - I'll say that again, Mmmmm! Yes & No. Sony has to make a stand: 'Do we support Independent Film Makers (Idependent - No money)?' or do we do the 'Corporate stuff' - as we have already got the cash off them. I would like to believe that in the black heart of the beast there is a flicker of light - 'Oh,Yes - let's go the extra mile - **** the accountants - we could win a lot of friends..... & we are starting to get competition'. All I can say is that we will not get anywhere without prodding with sharp sticks. Many years ago I had a friend who bullied Taylor Hobson into a new lens and Kays (later Metrocolour) into super 16mm and we, along with Peter Greenaway, made 'Draughtsman's Contract' and the rest is history.

May 15th, 2008, 04:45 AM	#6
Robb Cox Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 40	Im pretty sure Sony dont care about being bullied or prodded ;)