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Mike Moncrief · October 7th, 2007, 07:45 PM

Hi All,

I have tried to get an answer on this, so far no luck..I have tried to Batch Capture some footage into Final Cut 6.01 from an F70 deck.. The footage is HD 1080i 30fps.. I tried to do the batch capture using firewire, but no luck.. After giving it some thought, I realized that the XDCam foramt is much different than traditional tape, and am wondering since it stores the video in clips, if it is even possible to Batch it in...
As an alternative, i have a Kona card in the Mac Pro, with SDI inputs.. I have not attempted to use this option to try and Batch Capture it.. Maybe this is a possible soultion??

Any advice would be greatly appreciated..

Thanks,
Mike M

Greg Boston · October 7th, 2007, 07:51 PM

Mike, you "batch" capture XDCAM by selecting all(cmd-a) the clips in the XDCAM Transfer software thumbnail/list view(upper right), and clicking on IMPORT.

If you initiate that process from within FCP using XDCAM Import, it will open XDCAM Transfer for you, then you select all the clips once they show up, and hit the import button. You'll be returned to FCP and the clips will show up in the bin as the full resolution material gets unwrapped into QT containers. You can start editing as you wait on the remaining clips to appear in the bin.

Yeah, it's a bit different than AV streaming over firewire.

-gb-

Mike Moncrief · October 7th, 2007, 07:57 PM

Hello,

Ok maybe i misunderstood, but that sounds like an normal import.. There is a little more to my situation that I mentioned..(I was trying to keep it simple) Anyway I had imported using Automatic Duck a timeline that was editied in Avid..to my Final Cut workstation.. So I have a bunch of clips(no footage-placeholders if you will) that have the timecoded from the Avid capture embedded.. And i want to just do a batch capture of the whole deal, so It just goes and finds the timcode and imports them in...

Mike M.

Andy Mees · October 7th, 2007, 10:34 PM

Mike,

until you explain why the method you've be shown in multiple threads on multiple boards doesn't actually work then I guess I'll just keep posting the same answer in my insane and selfish desire to help you out ...

Did you read my response to your thread here:
http://www.kenstone.net/cgi/discussi...ad=95633#95633

As I noted, "Can it be done? Yes, absolutely. Has anyone ever done it? Yes, absolutely. Is it ideal? Hell no."

Can you explain why you were unsuccessful at Batch Capture? What were the specific problems you had that prevented it from working? XDCAM does record thec clips as individual entities but the timecode is incremental and the camera/deck emulates a tape transport system if used corectly.

If you have a Kona card and take the Hd-SDI out from the camera/deck to the Kona then you should be fine. You can use RS422 for remote from the deck, or Firewire for remote from the camera

... and just so as we're on the same page, its not really so much my altruistic nature, actually its more because if you have hit upon a particular workflow which prevents the tried and tested method I keep telling you from working, then I want to know so that I can be sure to avoid it in future. :)

cheers
Andy

Mike Moncrief · October 8th, 2007, 04:53 AM

Hello,

well lets see..I have not been in the office and have yet to try the SDI method.. The firewire method gave me an error and timed out..It never "batch captured" a single clip this way..I tried every possible capture preset, device setting I could muster.. and always the same result..

I will be in the office this morning, so I will attempt the SDI method..

I have posted in only 2 places..I did not know i had exceeded the limit???

Mike M.

Andy Mees · October 8th, 2007, 06:15 AM

man, of course theres no limit ;-)
folks usually read and respond to replies before reposing their questions though, just good manners is all.

so are you using a camera or deck?
did you remember to switch to AV/C mode before attempting to Batch Capture as DV via firewire
did you set the remote interface (INTERFACE SELECT > REMOTE I/F) to i.LINK if applicable?
did you set the front panel swirtch to REMOTE if applicable?

October 7th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#1
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	XDCam Batch Hi All, I have tried to get an answer on this, so far no luck..I have tried to Batch Capture some footage into Final Cut 6.01 from an F70 deck.. The footage is HD 1080i 30fps.. I tried to do the batch capture using firewire, but no luck.. After giving it some thought, I realized that the XDCam foramt is much different than traditional tape, and am wondering since it stores the video in clips, if it is even possible to Batch it in... As an alternative, i have a Kona card in the Mac Pro, with SDI inputs.. I have not attempted to use this option to try and Batch Capture it.. Maybe this is a possible soultion?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks, Mike M __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

October 7th, 2007, 07:57 PM	#3
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, Ok maybe i misunderstood, but that sounds like an normal import.. There is a little more to my situation that I mentioned..(I was trying to keep it simple) Anyway I had imported using Automatic Duck a timeline that was editied in Avid..to my Final Cut workstation.. So I have a bunch of clips(no footage-placeholders if you will) that have the timecoded from the Avid capture embedded.. And i want to just do a batch capture of the whole deal, so It just goes and finds the timcode and imports them in... Mike M. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

October 8th, 2007, 04:53 AM	#5
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, well lets see..I have not been in the office and have yet to try the SDI method.. The firewire method gave me an error and timed out..It never "batch captured" a single clip this way..I tried every possible capture preset, device setting I could muster.. and always the same result.. I will be in the office this morning, so I will attempt the SDI method.. I have posted in only 2 places..I did not know i had exceeded the limit??? Mike M. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

October 7th, 2007, 07:51 PM	#2
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Mike, you "batch" capture XDCAM by selecting all(cmd-a) the clips in the XDCAM Transfer software thumbnail/list view(upper right), and clicking on IMPORT. If you initiate that process from within FCP using XDCAM Import, it will open XDCAM Transfer for you, then you select all the clips once they show up, and hit the import button. You'll be returned to FCP and the clips will show up in the bin as the full resolution material gets unwrapped into QT containers. You can start editing as you wait on the remaining clips to appear in the bin. Yeah, it's a bit different than AV streaming over firewire. -gb-

October 7th, 2007, 10:34 PM	#4
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	Mike, until you explain why the method you've be shown in multiple threads on multiple boards doesn't actually work then I guess I'll just keep posting the same answer in my insane and selfish desire to help you out ... Did you read my response to your thread here: http://www.kenstone.net/cgi/discussi...ad=95633#95633 As I noted, "Can it be done? Yes, absolutely. Has anyone ever done it? Yes, absolutely. Is it ideal? Hell no." Can you explain why you were unsuccessful at Batch Capture? What were the specific problems you had that prevented it from working? XDCAM does record thec clips as individual entities but the timecode is incremental and the camera/deck emulates a tape transport system if used corectly. If you have a Kona card and take the Hd-SDI out from the camera/deck to the Kona then you should be fine. You can use RS422 for remote from the deck, or Firewire for remote from the camera ... and just so as we're on the same page, its not really so much my altruistic nature, actually its more because if you have hit upon a particular workflow which prevents the tried and tested method I keep telling you from working, then I want to know so that I can be sure to avoid it in future. :) cheers Andy

October 8th, 2007, 06:15 AM	#6
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 645	man, of course theres no limit ;-) folks usually read and respond to replies before reposing their questions though, just good manners is all. so are you using a camera or deck? did you remember to switch to AV/C mode before attempting to Batch Capture as DV via firewire did you set the remote interface (INTERFACE SELECT > REMOTE I/F) to i.LINK if applicable? did you set the front panel swirtch to REMOTE if applicable?