Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed!

Dave Therault · February 17th, 2016, 10:20 PM

No audio monitoring?

Jeff Zimmerman · February 18th, 2016, 10:37 AM

My work around for audio monitoring is using the Blackmagic Video Assist monitor. It has on screen audio meters and a headphone jack. Not ideal for the minimalist but I intend to shoot short films and mini-docs with the a6300 so its acceptable for my purpose.

Heard about the 2x crop for 120fps, not a deal breaker. Plan on using the Sony G 18-105 lens. I've had a similar experience with the GH4 having a 2x crop with of MFT sensor. You get use to it the more you use it.

Can't wait for the a6300 just put my pre-order in. As a casualty sold my Canon 1D Mark III. Holding on the all my L glass incase Canon comes around.

Darren Levine · February 18th, 2016, 10:46 AM

Hold your breath on the cropping issue, there's conflicting reports about just how much crop there is in HFR and 4k30, some reports/samples are that it's a fairly small cropping, perhaps 24 to 20mp supersample

Dave Therault · February 18th, 2016, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Zimmerman

My work around for audio monitoring is using the Blackmagic Video Assist monitor. It has on screen audio meters and a headphone jack.

That doesn't monitor what is actually being recorded to the card so I'd be wary of using it as an "A" cam on a job.

It still looks like a sweet instrument!

Jeff Zimmerman · February 19th, 2016, 01:47 PM

The monitor records internally, haven't had any problems with Sony a7. What problem are you referring too?

Cliff Totten · February 19th, 2016, 02:24 PM

You can't use a speed booster with any Sony E mount lenses.

I strongly suspect they are doing the 4k 30p crop and leaving out the headphone jack because they are prepping an A7000 release soon. I'd bet the A7000 won't have these problems :-)

Sverrir Fridriksson · February 22nd, 2016, 09:58 AM

I hope this will be a good piece of equipment for video but I wouldn't expect to capture any truly good audio on it. Just enough to match it in post with the sound recorded on an external device.

Dave Therault · February 22nd, 2016, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Zimmerman

The monitor records internally...

Thank you.

Steve Bleasdale · March 16th, 2016, 01:40 AM

I see there is no stabilization in camera does this mean it has to come from the lens? OSS? If so is there any 2.8 lens or lower say 1.8 on the market? steve

Christopher Young · March 16th, 2016, 03:38 AM

First reports I'm seeing are saying pretty soft and mushy in HD and the worst rolling shutter of any camera tested in 4K. Hmmm!

https://www.cinema5d.com/sony-a6300-...-is-it-really/

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

John McCully · March 16th, 2016, 03:26 PM

Also be aware that the EVF and the LCD dim when shooting 4k. This also happens with my A7RII when shooting 4k and in bright sunlight the camera becomes essentially useless. That and the 'running in NTSC' nag message are driving me crazy. I'm selling it.

Joe Ogiba · March 31st, 2016, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Totten

The forced 2x sensor crop in UHD 30p is a depressing thing. Every other feature is great.

I just ordered the a6300 today and the 2x crop should work great with my Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens to give it a 140-400mm FF eqiv for extra reach compared to my A7r.

Buba Kastorski · April 22nd, 2016, 08:43 AM

Guys, is there any way to REC/STOP remotely on that camera?
thx!

Ken Ross · April 24th, 2016, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John McCully

Also be aware that the EVF and the LCD dim when shooting 4k. This also happens with my A7RII when shooting 4k and in bright sunlight the camera becomes essentially useless. That and the 'running in NTSC' nag message are driving me crazy. I'm selling it.

John, what is the 'running in NTSC' message? I've never seen that on my 6300.

Frankly I'm finding the 4K results from the 6300 are better than my A7RII.

John McCully · June 1st, 2016, 10:55 PM

And you won't however if you switch to PAL mode you just might.

Let me explain: Sony cams are loaded with software according to the intended market. To the best of my (limited) knowledge all else is equal. While I live and shoot, for now, in a PAL country (New Zealand) I choose to switch my locally purchased Sony cam to NTSC to obtain 30p, vs. the PAL 25p, when shooting 4k - there is a difference - and to avoid the motion artefacts I see on my computer monitor when I shoot 25p and 50p. The downside is that when shooting under certain artificial lighting, nighttimes around town for instance, there may be flickering caused by the lighting. For me that is not applicable as I'm not allowed out after dark :-)

Here's the problem (I think): seems you folks in the USA, and Canada also perhaps, can import cheaper grey market cams from Asia that are configured to shoot PAL and in as much as the cam is PAL/NTSC switchable then you can simply set you cheaper PAL cam to NTSC and away you go. Problem is every time you boot up the camera and even whenever the cam wakes from sleep mode you get what becomes a very annoying nag message 'you are running in NTSC' which must be cleared before you can proceed. There are several angry threads about this message at the Sony community forum website all to no avail.

So for us poor unfortunates in PAL countries who choose to switch to NTSC mode as is a legitimate option, we are stuck with this issue, so annoying that I now import my Sony cams from the USA.

I contacted Sony support and their response was shooting PAL in a PAL country is recommended. Fat lot of help they were!

I was tempted to go with the A6300 but I think I shall wait a bit and go with the Panasonic AG-UX180 with the 1 inch sensor which, we are told, shoots 4k at 60p.

Cheers.

February 17th, 2016, 10:20 PM	#16
Dave Therault Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 67	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! No audio monitoring?

February 18th, 2016, 10:37 AM	#17
Jeff Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton, Colorado Posts: 386	Sony A6300 - Audio Monitoring - 2x Crop 120fps My work around for audio monitoring is using the Blackmagic Video Assist monitor. It has on screen audio meters and a headphone jack. Not ideal for the minimalist but I intend to shoot short films and mini-docs with the a6300 so its acceptable for my purpose. Heard about the 2x crop for 120fps, not a deal breaker. Plan on using the Sony G 18-105 lens. I've had a similar experience with the GH4 having a 2x crop with of MFT sensor. You get use to it the more you use it. Can't wait for the a6300 just put my pre-order in. As a casualty sold my Canon 1D Mark III. Holding on the all my L glass incase Canon comes around. __________________ Jeff Zimmerman • Love what I do • Colorado + North America www.m3films.com

February 18th, 2016, 10:46 AM	#18
Darren Levine Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NJ/NYC Posts: 563	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! Hold your breath on the cropping issue, there's conflicting reports about just how much crop there is in HFR and 4k30, some reports/samples are that it's a fairly small cropping, perhaps 24 to 20mp supersample __________________ C100 - GH4 - NYC Shooter www.DarrenLevine.com

February 19th, 2016, 01:47 PM	#20
Jeff Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton, Colorado Posts: 386	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! The monitor records internally, haven't had any problems with Sony a7. What problem are you referring too? __________________ Jeff Zimmerman • Love what I do • Colorado + North America www.m3films.com

February 19th, 2016, 02:24 PM	#21
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! You can't use a speed booster with any Sony E mount lenses. I strongly suspect they are doing the 4k 30p crop and leaving out the headphone jack because they are prepping an A7000 release soon. I'd bet the A7000 won't have these problems :-)

February 22nd, 2016, 09:58 AM	#22
Sverrir Fridriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Iceland Posts: 58	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! I hope this will be a good piece of equipment for video but I wouldn't expect to capture any truly good audio on it. Just enough to match it in post with the sound recorded on an external device.

March 16th, 2016, 01:40 AM	#24
Steve Bleasdale Trustee Join Date: May 2010 Location: England liverpool Posts: 1,343	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! I see there is no stabilization in camera does this mean it has to come from the lens? OSS? If so is there any 2.8 lens or lower say 1.8 on the market? steve

March 16th, 2016, 03:38 AM	#25
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,571	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! First reports I'm seeing are saying pretty soft and mushy in HD and the worst rolling shutter of any camera tested in 4K. Hmmm! https://www.cinema5d.com/sony-a6300-...-is-it-really/ Chris Young CYV Productions Sydney

March 16th, 2016, 03:26 PM	#26
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! Also be aware that the EVF and the LCD dim when shooting 4k. This also happens with my A7RII when shooting 4k and in bright sunlight the camera becomes essentially useless. That and the 'running in NTSC' nag message are driving me crazy. I'm selling it.

April 22nd, 2016, 08:43 AM	#28
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! Guys, is there any way to REC/STOP remotely on that camera? thx! __________________ I love this place!

June 1st, 2016, 10:55 PM	#30
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: Sony A6300 is announced!! 4K internal! S-log3!! 1080 120fps! Weather sealed! And you won't however if you switch to PAL mode you just might. Let me explain: Sony cams are loaded with software according to the intended market. To the best of my (limited) knowledge all else is equal. While I live and shoot, for now, in a PAL country (New Zealand) I choose to switch my locally purchased Sony cam to NTSC to obtain 30p, vs. the PAL 25p, when shooting 4k - there is a difference - and to avoid the motion artefacts I see on my computer monitor when I shoot 25p and 50p. The downside is that when shooting under certain artificial lighting, nighttimes around town for instance, there may be flickering caused by the lighting. For me that is not applicable as I'm not allowed out after dark :-) Here's the problem (I think): seems you folks in the USA, and Canada also perhaps, can import cheaper grey market cams from Asia that are configured to shoot PAL and in as much as the cam is PAL/NTSC switchable then you can simply set you cheaper PAL cam to NTSC and away you go. Problem is every time you boot up the camera and even whenever the cam wakes from sleep mode you get what becomes a very annoying nag message 'you are running in NTSC' which must be cleared before you can proceed. There are several angry threads about this message at the Sony community forum website all to no avail. So for us poor unfortunates in PAL countries who choose to switch to NTSC mode as is a legitimate option, we are stuck with this issue, so annoying that I now import my Sony cams from the USA. I contacted Sony support and their response was shooting PAL in a PAL country is recommended. Fat lot of help they were! I was tempted to go with the A6300 but I think I shall wait a bit and go with the Panasonic AG-UX180 with the 1 inch sensor which, we are told, shoots 4k at 60p. Cheers.