Picture Profile

Brian Terrinoni · September 27th, 2015, 01:58 PM

So I have looked on this forum and have found many custom picture profiles that I can use, but not sure which ones are the best or which ones are finalized. I am looking for 2 picture profiles, so I hope someone can help or direct me to a final version.

1) A picture profile that is flat and best for color grading?

AND

2) A picture profile that is best for delivering a DVD on site as is?

All help is very appreciated, thanks in advance!

David Dixon · September 28th, 2015, 10:03 AM

The camera does not have a Log option so cannot shoot *super* flat, but here’s about the closest you can come. This is definitely flatter than turning off the Picture Profiles. Just take any PP that you don’t plan to use, and make these changes:

Black Level: +15 (Maximum black lift the camera will do)
Gamma: Rec709 (you’d think the Cine options would be flatter, but no)
Black Gamma: High, +7 (again, maximum black lift)
Knee: This is the trickiest part. This used Manual with Point at 75% and Slope at 0 - I’m still tweaking this, but you cannot use both a low Point and a minus Slope. I’m still trying out + values on Slope, which seems counterintuitive but seems to help.
Color Mode: ITU709
Saturation: 0, but this could be lowered if desired
Color Phase: +1 (but I’m still tweaking - +2 might be better)
Color Revision: I use all the custom settings Paul Anderegg posted here months ago for Rec709. Let me know if you can’t find them and I’ll repost.
Detail (and Crispening): 0

I leave everything else at stock settings. I do manually white balance, and try to make sure nothing of any consequence subject-wise is above 100 on the Histogram, which I leave on all the time.

This also shows the shallow DOF possible even on a sunny day with the 1 inch sensor: lens is wide open (required using 0 or -3 Gain and ND1 or 2 to do so), 60p, 125 Iris, about 15 feet from subjects, zoomed in quite a bit, trees and soccer net in background are pretty far away. This was handheld (active stabilization), 1080p, was just a still frame exported from FCPX then resized to half size. Obviously the right part of the frame is the ungraded out-of-camera look, with the left part after simple grading in FCPX to get a more saturated, warm, sunny look.

I don't really see many others shooting flat like this with the X70, so if you figure out better settings than these please pass the findings along! Hope this helps.

September 27th, 2015, 01:58 PM	#1
Brian Terrinoni New Boot Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pompano Beach, Fl. Posts: 18	Picture Profile - Help So I have looked on this forum and have found many custom picture profiles that I can use, but not sure which ones are the best or which ones are finalized. I am looking for 2 picture profiles, so I hope someone can help or direct me to a final version. 1) A picture profile that is flat and best for color grading? AND 2) A picture profile that is best for delivering a DVD on site as is? All help is very appreciated, thanks in advance!

September 28th, 2015, 10:03 AM	#2
David Dixon Major Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 495	Re: Picture Profile - Help The camera does not have a Log option so cannot shoot super flat, but here’s about the closest you can come. This is definitely flatter than turning off the Picture Profiles. Just take any PP that you don’t plan to use, and make these changes: Black Level: +15 (Maximum black lift the camera will do) Gamma: Rec709 (you’d think the Cine options would be flatter, but no) Black Gamma: High, +7 (again, maximum black lift) Knee: This is the trickiest part. This used Manual with Point at 75% and Slope at 0 - I’m still tweaking this, but you cannot use both a low Point and a minus Slope. I’m still trying out + values on Slope, which seems counterintuitive but seems to help. Color Mode: ITU709 Saturation: 0, but this could be lowered if desired Color Phase: +1 (but I’m still tweaking - +2 might be better) Color Revision: I use all the custom settings Paul Anderegg posted here months ago for Rec709. Let me know if you can’t find them and I’ll repost. Detail (and Crispening): 0 I leave everything else at stock settings. I do manually white balance, and try to make sure nothing of any consequence subject-wise is above 100 on the Histogram, which I leave on all the time. This also shows the shallow DOF possible even on a sunny day with the 1 inch sensor: lens is wide open (required using 0 or -3 Gain and ND1 or 2 to do so), 60p, 125 Iris, about 15 feet from subjects, zoomed in quite a bit, trees and soccer net in background are pretty far away. This was handheld (active stabilization), 1080p, was just a still frame exported from FCPX then resized to half size. Obviously the right part of the frame is the ungraded out-of-camera look, with the left part after simple grading in FCPX to get a more saturated, warm, sunny look. I don't really see many others shooting flat like this with the X70, so if you figure out better settings than these please pass the findings along! Hope this helps. Attached Thumbnails