x70 price drop/new cam coming

Andy Wilkinson · April 17th, 2015, 09:53 AM

From what I've seen of the JVC GY-HM200E (web reviews and footage), the Sony X70 could have some serious competition. Link below to a well known/respected UK supplier.

Buy - JVC GY-HM200E (GYHM200E) 4K Ultra HD Live Streaming Camcorder

Watch Rick Young's moviemachine.tv review (went live 16th April 2015) of this JVC and you'll see where I'm coming from (...I won't directly link it here out of courtesy to Chris).

Ricky Sharp · April 17th, 2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Wilkinson

From what I've seen of the JVC GY-HM200E (web reviews and footage), the Sony X70 could have some serious competition.

As a FCP X user, I do like hearing the ease of bringing in footage. Knowing now that the X70 has a $200 added cost (for Catalyst), that brings the price close to the JVC. And if the X70's reduced price doesn't hold, you're now just about even.

For the life of me though, I cannot find specs on their 4K. I wonder if it's 8-bit 4:2:0 just as with the X70. The only time 4:2:2 is mentioned is for recording HD.

I do plan to only capture HD footage for the short term. However, if whatever I purchase can give 4:2:2 4K, it may be worth an experiment to see if post-downscaled footage would be better than in-camera HD.

Paul Hardy · April 17th, 2015, 11:07 AM

JVC GY-HM200E has a 1/2.3-inch back side Illuminated CMOS Sensor - completely different animal!

Andy Wilkinson · April 17th, 2015, 12:05 PM

Yes I know. About a quarter of the size of the sensor in the X70 (so low light and DOF will suffer) - but footage looks reasonable (for the price).

And of course there is the LS 300 (with it's much larger sensor and it's clever lens mount/mapping option) if you want to spend more...

Jury's still out on the quality of the footage from that - but certainly interesting.

I guess, for 4K, it comes down to a bigger sensor with a cr@p bit rate codec versus a smaller sensor with a reasonable bit rate codec.

Marc Salvatore · April 17th, 2015, 05:39 PM

Just sold my AX100 and picked up the X70. I really like all of the improvements over the AX100. Sony has finally realized what I longed for my MC50 to be some years ago. A fully manual pro small form factor camera. The XLR handle is top notch and feels like it's a permanent part of the camera yet can be easily removed if needed. Extra assignable buttons and EX1 like menu are really nice.

I'll miss the 4K capability but hopefully Sony will sell the upgrade for less than the $500 rumored cost.

April 17th, 2015, 09:53 AM	#16
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: x70 price drop/new cam coming From what I've seen of the JVC GY-HM200E (web reviews and footage), the Sony X70 could have some serious competition. Link below to a well known/respected UK supplier. Buy - JVC GY-HM200E (GYHM200E) 4K Ultra HD Live Streaming Camcorder Watch Rick Young's moviemachine.tv review (went live 16th April 2015) of this JVC and you'll see where I'm coming from (...I won't directly link it here out of courtesy to Chris). __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

April 17th, 2015, 11:07 AM	#18
Paul Hardy Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 99	Re: x70 price drop/new cam coming JVC GY-HM200E has a 1/2.3-inch back side Illuminated CMOS Sensor - completely different animal!

April 17th, 2015, 12:05 PM	#19
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: x70 price drop/new cam coming Yes I know. About a quarter of the size of the sensor in the X70 (so low light and DOF will suffer) - but footage looks reasonable (for the price). And of course there is the LS 300 (with it's much larger sensor and it's clever lens mount/mapping option) if you want to spend more... Jury's still out on the quality of the footage from that - but certainly interesting. I guess, for 4K, it comes down to a bigger sensor with a cr@p bit rate codec versus a smaller sensor with a reasonable bit rate codec. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

April 17th, 2015, 05:39 PM	#20
Marc Salvatore Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Medford, OR Posts: 351	Re: x70 price drop/new cam coming Just sold my AX100 and picked up the X70. I really like all of the improvements over the AX100. Sony has finally realized what I longed for my MC50 to be some years ago. A fully manual pro small form factor camera. The XLR handle is top notch and feels like it's a permanent part of the camera yet can be easily removed if needed. Extra assignable buttons and EX1 like menu are really nice. I'll miss the 4K capability but hopefully Sony will sell the upgrade for less than the $500 rumored cost.