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Jody Arnott · March 10th, 2015, 01:20 AM

Hi all,

I'm having issues with my SD cards not being able to recording in XAVC format.

I have tried the following cards: Sony UHS-3 94MB/s, and Sandisk Ultra 30MB/s.

With both cards, I get the error message "this media does not support the recording or playback of XAVC files".

Surely my memory cards are fast enough.. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance

Sauro Scroglieri · March 10th, 2015, 02:21 AM

ciao,

no surprise about the Sandisk 30MB/s: it is actually too slow .
On the other hand, UHS3 by Sony is (should be) able to sustain XAVC data rate.
Have you tried the Sony card alone (either slot A or B) an then set the recording mode?
Did you let the camera format the card?
Had same experience here: eager to get the X70 up and running I slotted in some pretty fast SDHC - 45MB/s: no way! now the baby is happy with a Lexar Pro 1000x 150 MB/s!

Jody Arnott · March 10th, 2015, 03:19 AM

Yep, I tried formatting the card with the camera and also just using 1 card. But even in 50i 25mbps mode, it won't work.

Interestingly, I use my Sandisk cards in another camera with a 50mbps codec.. so even the slower card should be fine.

Mike Buckhout · March 10th, 2015, 12:16 PM

Are you sure it is an SDXC type card? Regular SD won't work according to the manual.

I use these - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1071443-REG/sony_sf64uz_tqn_64gb_sdhs_uhs_1_u3.html which seem to work fine.

I do have one (of four) that seems to crap out randomly, probably defective, but no problems getting it to start recording in 50mbps XAVC on my X70. I've since pulled that one out of rotation.

Jody Arnott · March 10th, 2015, 02:34 PM

Hm yes it seems that it's SDHC:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/917685-REG/sony_sf32ux_tqn_32gb_sdhc_uhs_1_memory_card.html
But still, 95MB/s is plenty to handle the 50mbps bitrate. 50mbps is only 6.25MB/s.

Dave Blackhurst · March 10th, 2015, 03:17 PM

You HAVE to use SDXC, SDHC will not work, regardless of whether they are "fast enough". Same for AX100, RX10, RX100 if recording XAVCS...

Basically you need 64G and up fast cards, though I've got a couple "slow" 64G SDXC cards that do seem to work OK - it's all about that "X"!

I did some testing on various cards I've collected so far, by shooting still bursts til the RX "choked" (some would only shoot 8 or 9 before stopping, only fast cards made the rated 10 shot burst), and then timed the write time from cache... pretty scary seeing times varying from around 15 seconds up to 60+ depending on the card before the camera cleared the cache and returned to "ready". I didn't time overly scientifically, but the differences in card speeds were rather glaring! And yes, I had some smaller "high speed" cards that could definitely "keep up", and indeed were faster than my "slow" XC cards... but aren't XC, so they won't "work" for any of the XAVCS Sonys...

Not sure why there is a "line" between 32G SDHC and 64G SDXC, but I have yet to see any "small" XC memory...

Jody Arnott · March 10th, 2015, 04:04 PM

Thanks for the info Dave. Looks like I'll be sticking to AVCHD for now.

Bruce Dempsey · March 10th, 2015, 07:08 PM

I have 3 of these from this vendor and have filled them to the max 8 or 9 times and they've behaved perfectly with an ax100 imax bitrate xavc-s and 4k dual mode as well

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Transcend-SDX...item1e8bc3bc27

Monday Isa · March 10th, 2015, 07:28 PM

SDXC come formatted as exfat. Sdhc are fat32. You can use Sdhc if you format it in your computer to exfat and record 4k on it.

Jody Arnott · March 10th, 2015, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

SDXC come formatted as exfat. Sdhc are fat32. You can use Sdhc if you format it in your computer to exfat and record 4k on it.

Thanks for the tip. But I just tried that, no luck :(

Monday Isa · March 11th, 2015, 05:20 AM

Interesting. It worked for me formatting to exfat. I received the tip from a user on this forum who did the same thing. Only SDXC then for your camera. Good luck

David Dixon · March 11th, 2015, 06:08 AM

I use the same Transcend cards that Bruce linked to above (got them from B&H though) - no problems.

March 10th, 2015, 01:20 AM	#1
Jody Arnott Major Player Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 747	SD card issues Hi all, I'm having issues with my SD cards not being able to recording in XAVC format. I have tried the following cards: Sony UHS-3 94MB/s, and Sandisk Ultra 30MB/s. With both cards, I get the error message "this media does not support the recording or playback of XAVC files". Surely my memory cards are fast enough.. Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance

March 10th, 2015, 02:21 AM	#2
Sauro Scroglieri Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 26	Re: SD card issues ciao, no surprise about the Sandisk 30MB/s: it is actually too slow . On the other hand, UHS3 by Sony is (should be) able to sustain XAVC data rate. Have you tried the Sony card alone (either slot A or B) an then set the recording mode? Did you let the camera format the card? Had same experience here: eager to get the X70 up and running I slotted in some pretty fast SDHC - 45MB/s: no way! now the baby is happy with a Lexar Pro 1000x 150 MB/s!

March 10th, 2015, 03:19 AM	#3
Jody Arnott Major Player Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 747	Re: SD card issues Yep, I tried formatting the card with the camera and also just using 1 card. But even in 50i 25mbps mode, it won't work. Interestingly, I use my Sandisk cards in another camera with a 50mbps codec.. so even the slower card should be fine.

March 10th, 2015, 12:16 PM	#4
Mike Buckhout Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 62	Re: SD card issues Are you sure it is an SDXC type card? Regular SD won't work according to the manual. I use these - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1071443-REG/sony_sf64uz_tqn_64gb_sdhs_uhs_1_u3.html which seem to work fine. I do have one (of four) that seems to crap out randomly, probably defective, but no problems getting it to start recording in 50mbps XAVC on my X70. I've since pulled that one out of rotation.

March 10th, 2015, 02:34 PM	#5
Jody Arnott Major Player Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 747	Re: SD card issues Hm yes it seems that it's SDHC: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/917685-REG/sony_sf32ux_tqn_32gb_sdhc_uhs_1_memory_card.html But still, 95MB/s is plenty to handle the 50mbps bitrate. 50mbps is only 6.25MB/s.

March 10th, 2015, 03:17 PM	#6
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: SD card issues You HAVE to use SDXC, SDHC will not work, regardless of whether they are "fast enough". Same for AX100, RX10, RX100 if recording XAVCS... Basically you need 64G and up fast cards, though I've got a couple "slow" 64G SDXC cards that do seem to work OK - it's all about that "X"! I did some testing on various cards I've collected so far, by shooting still bursts til the RX "choked" (some would only shoot 8 or 9 before stopping, only fast cards made the rated 10 shot burst), and then timed the write time from cache... pretty scary seeing times varying from around 15 seconds up to 60+ depending on the card before the camera cleared the cache and returned to "ready". I didn't time overly scientifically, but the differences in card speeds were rather glaring! And yes, I had some smaller "high speed" cards that could definitely "keep up", and indeed were faster than my "slow" XC cards... but aren't XC, so they won't "work" for any of the XAVCS Sonys... Not sure why there is a "line" between 32G SDHC and 64G SDXC, but I have yet to see any "small" XC memory...

March 10th, 2015, 04:04 PM	#7
Jody Arnott Major Player Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 747	Re: SD card issues Thanks for the info Dave. Looks like I'll be sticking to AVCHD for now.

March 10th, 2015, 07:08 PM	#8
Bruce Dempsey Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlantic Coast Canada Posts: 599	Re: SD card issues I have 3 of these from this vendor and have filled them to the max 8 or 9 times and they've behaved perfectly with an ax100 imax bitrate xavc-s and 4k dual mode as well http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Transcend-SDX...item1e8bc3bc27

March 10th, 2015, 07:28 PM	#9
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Re: SD card issues SDXC come formatted as exfat. Sdhc are fat32. You can use Sdhc if you format it in your computer to exfat and record 4k on it.

March 11th, 2015, 05:20 AM	#11
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Re: SD card issues Interesting. It worked for me formatting to exfat. I received the tip from a user on this forum who did the same thing. Only SDXC then for your camera. Good luck

March 11th, 2015, 06:08 AM	#12
David Dixon Major Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 495	Re: SD card issues I use the same Transcend cards that Bruce linked to above (got them from B&H though) - no problems.