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All my early tele shots were with Standard OIS. I was reluctant to use Active, which is definitely better than Standard, for fear of losing resolution. As time has gone on, I think that fear was unwarranted and I'm using it more than I had. I did not use Active in my A/Bs with the GH4, just as a point of information. However, although the OIS on the Sony is not as good as the BOSS system they use with their small sensor cameras, I'll take it every day of the week over what I've seen in the GH4's OIS with tele lenses. The heat wave effect is just horrible, there's no other way to put it. I don't believe I've seen any wave of AX100 owners that are unhappy with their cameras because of the OIS. It's very usable and fairly effective, if not as effective, as the better OIS implementations by Sony in their small cams. So I'd much prefer an OIS that's somewhat less effective, but largely artifact-free, than one that has this 'heat wave' effect. IMO, that's just unusable. Keep in mind that the only reason that Sony didn't put in the more effective OIS (at least this is the prevailing theory that makes sense) system in the AX100 is because the sensor and lens assembly is so much larger than in their small sensor cams. |
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Add to that the fact that the AX100 is free of this heat wave effect and I've come to the conclusion this is a 'Panasonic exclusive'. Relating to your observations about 30p, I just bought a Toshiba 4K laptop. I will be using this as my main computer editor, either connected to an external 4K monitor (the 24" Dell or the 28" Samsung...if the Samsung ever comes off of back order status) or on its own 15.6" 4K screen, when away from home. What's interesting about the Toshiba 4K laptop, is it has a native refresh rate of 60p. As a result, playing 4K files on it look very much like my 64" plasma with the frame doubler in effect. It's quite smooth and the individually calibrated 'Technicolor' screen is just awesome. This is why I've always implored anyone watching AX100 4K 30p files on their HDTV, directly from the camera, to engage frame rate doubling on their HDTV. It just makes for a so much smoother experience. |
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Hey Ken, did you get my email? I'll be in your neck of woods tomorrow, and i'll have my lightweight tripod :)
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May 4th, 2014, 08:34 PM | #1145 |
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Darren, no, never got a PM.
Which tripod do you use? Edit: We actually moved from Plainview, further out on the L.I. about a year ago. I never actually updated my profile. |
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The first clip was taken under time pressure, so I could keep it more steady if I can take my time but considering the circumstances I"m happy with that shot, notice how fast the camera the camera can zoom in, re-adjusts the whitebalance and exposure and gets the focus right, all of those where in automode at that time. One question to ax100 owners, is the ax100 able to zoom in that fast? Just asking because Sony seemed to make some changes in that area, like on my rx10, for whatever reason. The rx10 can zoom faster but only in standby mode so it's a build in restriction. |
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May 5th, 2014, 02:15 AM | #1147 |
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Don't have the camera yet, but the manual states, "The zoom speed will become a little slower during movie recording."
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May 5th, 2014, 06:49 AM | #1148 |
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Misunderstanding or wrong purchase?
I have just get the Sony Shoe adapter because I need to plug a led light or an additional mic. on AX100. This is the light: 312AS Bi-Color Changing Dimmable LED Video DSLR Camera Light Panel 3200k~5600k | eBay On this forum you have told me that adapter is ok if I like to plug that light. Today I have get it: ADP-MAC- SONY MULTI INTERFACE SHOE ADAPTER for active interface accessories | eBay but I cannot plug my led light and every other item like additional microphone because they have bigger shoes and they cannot fit on the Sony adapter shoe, that shoe is too much narrow. Is it a wrong purchase? Do they have to send me another adapter; is it not the right adapter? Thanks for some info.
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May 5th, 2014, 07:42 AM | #1149 |
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There are several adapters so you need to get the correct one for your needs. I do not use ANY of them so you will need to check yourself what you need. There are some that just raise the shoe above the camera body ( I think that is the one you have) and then there is one that converts to the larger shoe. YOU need to check but I think it is the ADP-MAA
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Noa, the timing for the AX100 from full wide to full telephoto is as follows from my own testing:
* Camera in standby- approximately 3 seconds * Camera recording- just under 5 seconds It's quite possible that camcorders with larger lenses & sensors are more difficult to zoom at a very high rate of speed. |
May 5th, 2014, 09:53 AM | #1151 |
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@ Noa, Ken -
We've discussed a few possible reasons for the "slow zoom" - physics of the larger lens elements is one possible reason (avoiding too much mass moving too fast, but it works OK when NOT recording?!), avoiding "bad" camera technique (crash zooms, despite their usefulness at times), and avoiding the capturing of zoom noise on audio (faster zooming makes a lot more noise as the motors and gears operate at the higher speed). While I suspect all thee above could be "reasons" for the design decisions, only the last one has a very slight validity! And I think we ALL far prefer the OLD two step Handycam zoom system where it was possible with a light touch to throttle the zoom at slow speed, or punch it for a crash zoom! Even though the 2 step switches could be twitchy, they usually worked once you got the feel for them! The "current" design philosophy may well be the result of online whinging over "I don't like the way my zoom works, it's too sensitive" (or whatever), and the "solution" was a single SLOW speed instead of a user adjustable single speed or the old 2 step.... perhaps sufficient amounts of online whinging over the "new improved" (that really ISN'T!) system will result in firmware changes to restore user choice?! The slow zoom in record mode is one of the very few widely criticized "features" of the otherwise well received RX10... I personally believe that a firmware "fix" via an added menu/switch selection is both feasible and desirable. (add 4k in, and unify the LANC while they're at it, dang it!) @Adriano - The adapter you apparently erroneously ordered is for MiS (current camera shoe) to AiS (previous accessory shoe), to allow use of "old" AiS accessories on the new MiS cameras, with the needed electronic connections. ALL you really need is a cheap COLD shoe riser, and a small file or Dremel type tool to mod the shoe to fit the camera by putting a couple notches in the base so it can fit into the shoe!! I will be modding my lights and such when I get hands on the AX100 so that they "fit"... or just use a bracket. For whatever reason, Sony continued the oddball "notched" design of the AiS in the MiS, so that rather than the shoe having to slide in from an open "end", there are TWO openings in the "shoe rails", meaning there is a shorter distance for the "accessory" to slide into the shoe, but you must align and engage the notches, or as I suggest above, CREATE the needed notches on a cheap plastic adapter/riser. Strangely, this is NOT an issue on the Cybershot MiS shoes, but IS on the Handycam(s?). I suspect this is due to some underlying architectural issues where the MiS may not have all the same features on both lines, so the Handycam MiS is notched to ONLY accept compatible accessories (??) - don't have any evidence to "prove" this other than the already discovered differences in LANC implementation that are dang annoying! But these cameras are two different lines from two different "divisions", and they apparently are NOT operating on the same page when it comes to accessories!! Cybershots have to use their own "remote", and can't (at least thus far I haven't figured out a hack) use the MULTI adapter for old A/V jack LANCs, despite using the same controller chip (and likely) protocol... IOW, when is a LANC not a LANC? When Sony fiddles with proprietary implementations!!. |
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5 seconds in record mode is "doable", at least a lot more useful then the 13 seconds on the rx10, I don't think Sony builds this limitation in because they don't want their user to crashzoom or to lower the noise during zoom, we"ll probably never know anyway, it can be either intentional or a hardware limitation, in any case they should give us the possibility to choose the speed ourselves.
Some may doubt the usefulness of fast zooms but for reframing purposes in run and gun they are very valuable, especially when you shoot solo, which is what I only use them for. the zoom itself gets cut out in post. |
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Does anybody can give me the right, precise and reliable adapter for Sony AX100? I need it as soon as possible. Thanks
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May 5th, 2014, 05:29 PM | #1155 |
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It took just a couple searches to find this, which states AX100 compatibility:
Sony]Sony Multi Interface Shoe to Universal Cold Shoe Adapter | eBay Multi Interface Shoe to Universal Cold Shoe Adapter |
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