Monitor Recommendation at DVinfo.net

John DeLuca · March 25th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Is there a specific LCD monitor you guys can recommend for capture/editing SI-2K footage? The monitor on the Dell M90 is very sharp, but lacks contrast.

Jason Rodriguez · March 25th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Well, depends on the price range you're looking at . . . at the top of the list I'd use the Cinetal, but that would run you around $15K.

In the $1-3K price range, there is a comany called Eizo that makes some really great color-accurate monitors . . . the ColorEdge series come with hardware calibration as well. You can see more here:

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2411w/index.asp
http://www.eizo.com/products/graphic...0wsp/index.asp

John DeLuca · March 25th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Jason-

The 24" color edge is exactly what I’m looking for! We have some exciting things planned for the mini when it comes tomorrow. I will post some grabs ASAP of a few things I wanted to see more of online from others (includes HMI interview outside, high contrast wide angle shots, high color shots, lots of skin).

Rohan Dadswell · March 25th, 2007, 04:50 PM

John, that would be great !
I've been asking SI for some more examples for ages but they've not managed it.
Look forward to your reports.

Jason Rodriguez · March 25th, 2007, 06:59 PM

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I've been asking SI for some more examples or ages but they've not managed it.

BTW, Rohan, this is not because we haven't wanted to, but right now we are simply pressed for time . . . also we have been providing certain productions with cameras, that due the nature of what they are working on, are unable to send grabs from their productions.

Chris Lakes · March 30th, 2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Rodriguez

BTW, Rohan, this is not because we haven't wanted to, but right now we are simply pressed for time . . . also we have been providing certain productions with cameras, that due the nature of what they are working on, are unable to send grabs from their productions.

Hey!

We are one of those productions. Or, I should say, I am renting my SI Mini and myself to one of those productions.

We are shooting a feature called Blood: A Butcher's tale, starring Aaron Douglas from Battlestar Galactica, among other talents.

On set we use the Dell M90 and a 26" BenQ HD monitor. I have to confess that neither is a calibratable production monitor, but there is so much latitude and information in the RAW files, that we are confident in the flexiblity that he FX guy will have in post (we are shooting 80-90% green screen).

I'm tired, in the middle of production, and I'm drinking a bit of wine. Just having fun and loving the SI Mini and thought I'd say hello.

Cheers,
Chris.

Chris Lakes · March 30th, 2007, 10:49 PM

btw, I hope to be posting some stills and footage shortly on this or another popular forum. (trying not to cross post here). Cheers.

Jason Rodriguez · March 31st, 2007, 12:41 AM

Hey Chris, welcome to the list!

BTW, I wasn't pointing blame at anyone before about footage, was just saying I hope that others on this list realize that productions like yourself just can't release a bunch of source footage at free-will, especially when you're in the heat of production. Plus there's certain PR issues to manage as well with source-footage release.

But just in case anyone is wondering, our cameras are out there working right now, and we'll have some really great stuff to show at NAB.

Also this year we will have an even more extensive Virtual NAB experience for those who can't make it. Just show-up to the website at 9AM on April 16th . . .

Rohan Dadswell · March 31st, 2007, 06:23 PM

Hi Jason,

I wasn't really expecting footage from a working production, I know there are all sorts of issues trying to go down that path.
My frustration comes from not having any full rez RAW clips to test - (a production company I was pitching to has decided to go with a four letter word camera)
I'm sure SI hasn't built a camera without shooting some test shots, the stuff on your site looks very nice but its hard to tell if noise and banding is from recompressing, old 1920 chips, or from the camera itself (I'm sure it's not;-)

The fact that the camera is out there and working is a great thing and I look forward to any on set reports on using the SI-2K (hint hint) and roll on Virtual NAB.

Chris Lakes · March 31st, 2007, 09:50 PM

Rohan,

we should have some stuff shortly, as in a few days. At the latest after production wraps which is around the 4th. I should be able to get you, or, point you towards some full rez screen grabs.

Rohan Dadswell · March 31st, 2007, 11:52 PM

Chris,

That would be brilliant.
I realize that you (and the other SI-2K users) are busy but any info on your experiences of using this camera (& the results) would be greatly appreciated.

John DeLuca · April 1st, 2007, 06:18 PM

I will have some grabs up soon. I just want to make sure I have the whole workflow optimized before posting.

March 25th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#1
John DeLuca Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 496	Monitor Recommendation Is there a specific LCD monitor you guys can recommend for capture/editing SI-2K footage? The monitor on the Dell M90 is very sharp, but lacks contrast.

March 25th, 2007, 04:50 PM	#4
Rohan Dadswell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 228	John, that would be great ! I've been asking SI for some more examples for ages but they've not managed it. Look forward to your reports. Last edited by Rohan Dadswell; March 25th, 2007 at 09:11 PM.

March 30th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#7
Chris Lakes Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	btw, I hope to be posting some stills and footage shortly on this or another popular forum. (trying not to cross post here). Cheers. __________________ www.marsunited.com

March 31st, 2007, 09:50 PM	#10
Chris Lakes Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	Rohan, we should have some stuff shortly, as in a few days. At the latest after production wraps which is around the 4th. I should be able to get you, or, point you towards some full rez screen grabs. __________________ www.marsunited.com

March 25th, 2007, 01:21 PM	#2
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	Well, depends on the price range you're looking at . . . at the top of the list I'd use the Cinetal, but that would run you around $15K. In the $1-3K price range, there is a comany called Eizo that makes some really great color-accurate monitors . . . the ColorEdge series come with hardware calibration as well. You can see more here: http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2411w/index.asp http://www.eizo.com/products/graphic...0wsp/index.asp

March 25th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#3
John DeLuca Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 496	Jason- The 24" color edge is exactly what I’m looking for! We have some exciting things planned for the mini when it comes tomorrow. I will post some grabs ASAP of a few things I wanted to see more of online from others (includes HMI interview outside, high contrast wide angle shots, high color shots, lots of skin).

March 31st, 2007, 12:41 AM	#8
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	Hey Chris, welcome to the list! BTW, I wasn't pointing blame at anyone before about footage, was just saying I hope that others on this list realize that productions like yourself just can't release a bunch of source footage at free-will, especially when you're in the heat of production. Plus there's certain PR issues to manage as well with source-footage release. But just in case anyone is wondering, our cameras are out there working right now, and we'll have some really great stuff to show at NAB. Also this year we will have an even more extensive Virtual NAB experience for those who can't make it. Just show-up to the website at 9AM on April 16th . . .

March 31st, 2007, 06:23 PM	#9
Rohan Dadswell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 228	Hi Jason, I wasn't really expecting footage from a working production, I know there are all sorts of issues trying to go down that path. My frustration comes from not having any full rez RAW clips to test - (a production company I was pitching to has decided to go with a four letter word camera) I'm sure SI hasn't built a camera without shooting some test shots, the stuff on your site looks very nice but its hard to tell if noise and banding is from recompressing, old 1920 chips, or from the camera itself (I'm sure it's not;-) The fact that the camera is out there and working is a great thing and I look forward to any on set reports on using the SI-2K (hint hint) and roll on Virtual NAB.

March 31st, 2007, 11:52 PM	#11
Rohan Dadswell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 228	Chris, That would be brilliant. I realize that you (and the other SI-2K users) are busy but any info on your experiences of using this camera (& the results) would be greatly appreciated.

April 1st, 2007, 06:18 PM	#12
John DeLuca Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 496	I will have some grabs up soon. I just want to make sure I have the whole workflow optimized before posting.