Lens included in package?

Tyson Perkins · November 12th, 2006, 03:16 AM

So what kind of price are you looking at, if you are thinking of a single lense solution?

Joe Carney · November 12th, 2006, 10:42 AM

Jason, they are available with PL mount.

Thomas English · November 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM

You can get inexpensive teeth for lenses from underwater photographic housing manufacturers . It is very easy and cheap.

Tyson Perkins · November 13th, 2006, 12:15 AM

So there is nothing in terms of a single lense in the 2000-4000 dollar range?

Steve Nordhauser · November 13th, 2006, 04:52 PM

This is what Jason is refering to:
http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...aging_faq.html

Will you be supporting B4-mount (Sony mount) lenses?

No, not directly, although an adapter can be made from the built-in c-mount. The reason for our decision is that B4-mount lenses are not designed for the single focal plane of a single-sensor camera, and as a result can produce color fringing and other optical aberrations that will not be apparent on lenses designed for focusing on a single focal plane. We strongly suggest the use of film-style PL-mount lenses such as those from Arri, Cooke, Angenieux, Zeiss, etc.
-Steve

Tyson Perkins · November 13th, 2006, 06:56 PM

Are there any you recommend in terms of a single lense solution from these companies, in my research I am only seeing sets?

Valeriu Campan · November 15th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins

Are there any you recommend in terms of a single lense solution from these companies, in my research I am only seeing sets?

If you don't like Zeiss or Cooke glass, for starters - some inexpensive options:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-KODAK-SI...QQcmdZViewItem
(with help of a Stanley knife, plumber's 1" tubing, bluetack and gaffer tape)

or a more elegant one:

http://www.lensbabies.com/index.php?r=GSLensbaby

...and you allways can upgrade later.

Tyson Perkins · November 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Anything that is in the higher class of 6-8000 for single lense?

Jason Rodriguez · November 15th, 2006, 10:27 PM

A single Optar prime lens is around $2-3K. A set of 4 lenses is $8K.

You can also purchase a brand-new Fujinon PL-mount zoom lens (like the one used for the Aaton A-minima) for $8-10K.

Tyson Perkins · November 16th, 2006, 02:20 AM

Thank you. Are there any exact models i should be looking at in terms of the Optar prime lenses? How do these compare with the fuji lenses?

And should i purchase the 16mm or 35mm?

How would these go in terms of suiting the camera?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Zeiss-Super-16mm...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZEISS-10-100mm-T...QQcmdZViewItem

Joe Carney · November 16th, 2006, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Rodriguez

A single Optar prime lens is around $2-3K. A set of 4 lenses is $8K.

You can also purchase a brand-new Fujinon PL-mount zoom lens (like the one used for the Aaton A-minima) for $8-10K.

They seem to be running a new special, 6 lenses for 11,700 usd. Posted on Ebay and Mandy.com

Tyson Perkins · November 16th, 2006, 02:00 PM

Who is they?

Joe Carney · November 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM

The authorized dealer that sells the Optar Illumina prime lenses.
Here is the home site.

http://www.optarillumina.info/optar.html

Michael Carter · January 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM

Following these threads with great interest; regarding lens costs, I do wonder if the still-shooter example holds...

I've been shooting fashion and product for a decade or so, and have a big pile of Nikon bodies, from the 8008 up to the recent digitals (and about to upgrade again).

But I've bought ONE lens in the past 6 years or so, an extra-wide zoom to cover the smaller digital SLR chip. My old 80-200 2.8 and 80 1.8 Nikon AF glass... well, those two lenses just seem to have "soul". When I need a 300 or 400 2.8, I just rent 'em... it's not that often, and frankly the 300 doesn't look much nicer than my 80-200 zoomed in; it's more to impress the dang clients!

Point being, (other than specific lenses designed for smaller digital chips, or internal silent-wave focus motors) there haven't been many earth-shaking changes in lens design to match the amazing strides in bodies and capture. Some glass just seems to "have it", even if it's got a tad of aberration or softness. Investing in a few lenses, if done with some research, can be more prudent than constantly renting.

Which leads me to one more point about the "digital age": the fact that, in still OR video, you can be editing something you shot 2 minutes ago --LITERALLY -- that fact has opened up more pure creativity for me than ANYTHING ELSE in decades of working. No more costly and time consuming processing and scanning, no more "making decisions" about where that money is best spent, just instantaneous creative play. When I own one of these babies -- a red, an SI, an HVX or whatever... I'm the kind of guy that's going to want enough gear to be able to grab some footage, some backgrounds, some textures, do an effects test, whatever -- as instantaneously and worry-free (from a budget standpoint) as I can.

Which mean I'll be doing some lens shopping...

David Garvin · April 1st, 2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernest Kwok

u can get the optar lenses at below 8k with some dealers like kievcamera.com ...cheers

I know this post is about 6 months old but I thought I'd note, just for the record, that kievcamera.com seems to be a porn site now.

EDIT: Perhaps http://www.kievcamera.net/ is the company that was being referred to earlier. It actually does seem to sell lenses

November 12th, 2006, 10:42 AM	#17
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Jason, they are available with PL mount. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

November 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM	#18
Thomas English New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 24	You can get inexpensive teeth for lenses from underwater photographic housing manufacturers . It is very easy and cheap. __________________ thomas english www.thomasenglish.co.uk

November 13th, 2006, 04:52 PM	#20
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	This is what Jason is refering to: http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...aging_faq.html Will you be supporting B4-mount (Sony mount) lenses? No, not directly, although an adapter can be made from the built-in c-mount. The reason for our decision is that B4-mount lenses are not designed for the single focal plane of a single-sensor camera, and as a result can produce color fringing and other optical aberrations that will not be apparent on lenses designed for focusing on a single focal plane. We strongly suggest the use of film-style PL-mount lenses such as those from Arri, Cooke, Angenieux, Zeiss, etc. -Steve __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

November 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM	#28
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The authorized dealer that sells the Optar Illumina prime lenses. Here is the home site. http://www.optarillumina.info/optar.html __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

November 12th, 2006, 03:16 AM	#16
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	So what kind of price are you looking at, if you are thinking of a single lense solution?

November 13th, 2006, 12:15 AM	#19
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	So there is nothing in terms of a single lense in the 2000-4000 dollar range?

November 13th, 2006, 06:56 PM	#21
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	Are there any you recommend in terms of a single lense solution from these companies, in my research I am only seeing sets?

November 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#23
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	Anything that is in the higher class of 6-8000 for single lense?

November 15th, 2006, 10:27 PM	#24
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	A single Optar prime lens is around $2-3K. A set of 4 lenses is $8K. You can also purchase a brand-new Fujinon PL-mount zoom lens (like the one used for the Aaton A-minima) for $8-10K.

November 16th, 2006, 02:20 AM	#25
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	Thank you. Are there any exact models i should be looking at in terms of the Optar prime lenses? How do these compare with the fuji lenses? And should i purchase the 16mm or 35mm? How would these go in terms of suiting the camera? http://cgi.ebay.com/Zeiss-Super-16mm...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ZEISS-10-100mm-T...QQcmdZViewItem

November 16th, 2006, 02:00 PM	#27
Tyson Perkins Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sydney, australia Posts: 221	Who is they?

January 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM	#29
Michael Carter Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 108	Following these threads with great interest; regarding lens costs, I do wonder if the still-shooter example holds... I've been shooting fashion and product for a decade or so, and have a big pile of Nikon bodies, from the 8008 up to the recent digitals (and about to upgrade again). But I've bought ONE lens in the past 6 years or so, an extra-wide zoom to cover the smaller digital SLR chip. My old 80-200 2.8 and 80 1.8 Nikon AF glass... well, those two lenses just seem to have "soul". When I need a 300 or 400 2.8, I just rent 'em... it's not that often, and frankly the 300 doesn't look much nicer than my 80-200 zoomed in; it's more to impress the dang clients! Point being, (other than specific lenses designed for smaller digital chips, or internal silent-wave focus motors) there haven't been many earth-shaking changes in lens design to match the amazing strides in bodies and capture. Some glass just seems to "have it", even if it's got a tad of aberration or softness. Investing in a few lenses, if done with some research, can be more prudent than constantly renting. Which leads me to one more point about the "digital age": the fact that, in still OR video, you can be editing something you shot 2 minutes ago --LITERALLY -- that fact has opened up more pure creativity for me than ANYTHING ELSE in decades of working. No more costly and time consuming processing and scanning, no more "making decisions" about where that money is best spent, just instantaneous creative play. When I own one of these babies -- a red, an SI, an HVX or whatever... I'm the kind of guy that's going to want enough gear to be able to grab some footage, some backgrounds, some textures, do an effects test, whatever -- as instantaneously and worry-free (from a budget standpoint) as I can. Which mean I'll be doing some lens shopping...