Spoon Successfully wraps! at DVinfo.net

Jason Rodriguez · July 28th, 2006, 08:39 AM

Just wanted to give everyone a head's up that Spoon has now successfully wrapped shooting (as of last Friday), and is now officially the first film to shoot with the Silicon Imaging camera system. With over 130 hours of shot footage across 62 production days, they've really put the camera system through it's paces, and showed the production community that it really does work in the "real world" and is more than just a concept.

We've got more goodies on the way! :)

You can read a great article about the "Spoon" shoot and some comments from Simon, et. al. at:

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/ca...est_hd_072506/

Pete Tomov · July 28th, 2006, 12:36 PM

Cool!
Who do I kill to see some full-sized images for now and then who do I kill to see the movie when it's done? :)

Dean Bull · July 30th, 2006, 05:15 PM

130 hours of footage!

Thats about as much coverage as a micheal bay film.

Congrats. How many TB's of disc did that take up and how are you backing everything up?

Dean

Jason Rodriguez · July 31st, 2006, 07:34 AM

I believe they're just using off-the-shelf hard-drives for backup.

at 40GB/hr, I'm guessing it's quite a bit of space :)

5.2TB to be exact.

Of course the nice thing is that since Cineform RAW doesn't need to have a high-speed disk array, it's not like you need to carry around a super-fast/very-expensive RAID . . . you can just have a bunch of Lacie big-disks, or whatever and edit directly off those via firewire800 or eSATA.

Brian Drysdale · July 31st, 2006, 07:56 AM

I presume they'll be doing an off line edit first.

Jason Rodriguez · July 31st, 2006, 10:34 AM

No need to-do an "offline" edit . . . the AVI files only run at 12MB/s, so it's sort of like editing with something like DVCProHD, although the Cineform RAW codec is much, much better (it's a full-raster, 10-bit, 5:1 compressed wavelet based codec).

You can drop it straight into your timeline, edit with up to 4 real-time streams (CineForm was demostraiting this on a dual Opteron 275 Boxx workstation at NAB in the AMD booth), and this is all off simple off-the-shelf hard-drives.

There's no more need for "offline"/"online" with CineformRAW . . . that was the whole point of the codec, to free yourself from that very cumbersome workflow. You can maintain the RAW file integrity all the way from aquisition to final post and distribution.

Since a realtivley nice system (i.e., Pentium D and beyond) can do real-time editing with the code straight off a normal hard-drive, there's no need for "offline"/"online" workflows anymore. Just record and edit, and in the case of Spoon, have a lot of storage . . . but it can be simple firewire800 or eSATA drives, like the Lacie Bigdisks, it doesn't have to be expensive XserveRAID's etc.

Wes Vasher · July 31st, 2006, 11:06 AM

Congrats to both the producers of Spoon and the SI guys. The production blog and sample clips posted really look great.

Stephen L. Noe · August 17th, 2006, 09:59 PM

Shot in 62 days and you've kept 130 hours? That's alot. What's the expected TRT?

Sharlto Copley · August 19th, 2006, 06:52 AM

howzit

yes, we are done with principal photography on spoon - we're cutting the whole movie in on-line mode on prem pro 2 - which is going to be somewhat of a challenge. Cineform performed really well as did the cameras - we really put them through there paces and had very little problems (we even shot underwater stuff - hahaha) i'll be around on forum regularly now as I'm editing the film together with simon and we'll be trying to further develop the whole process during post with cineform and silcon imaging. There is around 8 months of post to do on spoon so its a lot of work.

ciao
sharlto copley

Heath McKnight · August 19th, 2006, 08:22 AM

It says a lot that a film with a likely nice production budget used a relatively untested camera (the SI) to make the movie. Very nice, SI guys!

heath

Joe Carney · August 19th, 2006, 05:48 PM

Curious as to why Premier Pro2 is presenting a challenge?

John Beale · May 26th, 2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharlto Copley

There is around 8 months of post to do on spoon so its a lot of work.

Now that it's May 2007 (about 9 months later) I'm just wondering how the post-production is going? Any anticipated release date?

Bob Grant · May 27th, 2007, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Beale

Now that it's May 2007 (about 9 months later) I'm just wondering how the post-production is going? Any anticipated release date?

A good question although with that amount of footage I could imagine it's quite a task.
I did notice in many of the shots they had two cameras rolling so that would account for the high shooting ratio.

Ari Presler · May 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM

I think they are planning a Christmas release.

In the meantime, the cameras have been busy shooting another feature called Discreet:

http://discreetdiaries.blogspot.com/

Jason Rodriguez · May 28th, 2007, 10:50 AM

BTW, I've just uploaded a new video file that demonstrates some of the blue-screen compositing work that the AtomicVFX guys are doing on Spoon.

You can download it from our video gallery at www.si-2k.com

Thanks,

Jason

July 28th, 2006, 08:39 AM	#1
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	Spoon Successfully wraps! Just wanted to give everyone a head's up that Spoon has now successfully wrapped shooting (as of last Friday), and is now officially the first film to shoot with the Silicon Imaging camera system. With over 130 hours of shot footage across 62 production days, they've really put the camera system through it's paces, and showed the production community that it really does work in the "real world" and is more than just a concept. We've got more goodies on the way! :) You can read a great article about the "Spoon" shoot and some comments from Simon, et. al. at: http://digitalcontentproducer.com/ca...est_hd_072506/

August 17th, 2006, 09:59 PM	#8
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Shot in 62 days and you've kept 130 hours? That's alot. What's the expected TRT? __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

August 19th, 2006, 06:52 AM	#9
Sharlto Copley New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 8	hi from spoon howzit yes, we are done with principal photography on spoon - we're cutting the whole movie in on-line mode on prem pro 2 - which is going to be somewhat of a challenge. Cineform performed really well as did the cameras - we really put them through there paces and had very little problems (we even shot underwater stuff - hahaha) i'll be around on forum regularly now as I'm editing the film together with simon and we'll be trying to further develop the whole process during post with cineform and silcon imaging. There is around 8 months of post to do on spoon so its a lot of work. ciao sharlto copley

August 19th, 2006, 08:22 AM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	It says a lot that a film with a likely nice production budget used a relatively untested camera (the SI) to make the movie. Very nice, SI guys! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 19th, 2006, 05:48 PM	#11
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Curious as to why Premier Pro2 is presenting a challenge? __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

July 28th, 2006, 12:36 PM	#2
Pete Tomov Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	Cool! Who do I kill to see some full-sized images for now and then who do I kill to see the movie when it's done? :)

July 30th, 2006, 05:15 PM	#3
Dean Bull Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 106	130 hours of footage! Thats about as much coverage as a micheal bay film. Congrats. How many TB's of disc did that take up and how are you backing everything up? Dean

July 31st, 2006, 07:34 AM	#4
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	I believe they're just using off-the-shelf hard-drives for backup. at 40GB/hr, I'm guessing it's quite a bit of space :) 5.2TB to be exact. Of course the nice thing is that since Cineform RAW doesn't need to have a high-speed disk array, it's not like you need to carry around a super-fast/very-expensive RAID . . . you can just have a bunch of Lacie big-disks, or whatever and edit directly off those via firewire800 or eSATA.

July 31st, 2006, 07:56 AM	#5
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	I presume they'll be doing an off line edit first.

July 31st, 2006, 10:34 AM	#6
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	No need to-do an "offline" edit . . . the AVI files only run at 12MB/s, so it's sort of like editing with something like DVCProHD, although the Cineform RAW codec is much, much better (it's a full-raster, 10-bit, 5:1 compressed wavelet based codec). You can drop it straight into your timeline, edit with up to 4 real-time streams (CineForm was demostraiting this on a dual Opteron 275 Boxx workstation at NAB in the AMD booth), and this is all off simple off-the-shelf hard-drives. There's no more need for "offline"/"online" with CineformRAW . . . that was the whole point of the codec, to free yourself from that very cumbersome workflow. You can maintain the RAW file integrity all the way from aquisition to final post and distribution. Since a realtivley nice system (i.e., Pentium D and beyond) can do real-time editing with the code straight off a normal hard-drive, there's no need for "offline"/"online" workflows anymore. Just record and edit, and in the case of Spoon, have a lot of storage . . . but it can be simple firewire800 or eSATA drives, like the Lacie Bigdisks, it doesn't have to be expensive XserveRAID's etc.

July 31st, 2006, 11:06 AM	#7
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Congrats to both the producers of Spoon and the SI guys. The production blog and sample clips posted really look great.

May 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM	#14
Ari Presler Silicon Imaging Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York or Hollywood Posts: 214	Spoon Release Schedule I think they are planning a Christmas release. In the meantime, the cameras have been busy shooting another feature called Discreet: http://discreetdiaries.blogspot.com/

May 28th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#15
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	BTW, I've just uploaded a new video file that demonstrates some of the blue-screen compositing work that the AtomicVFX guys are doing on Spoon. You can download it from our video gallery at www.si-2k.com Thanks, Jason