The best way to edit natively -- CineForm RAW in the camera. at DVinfo.net

David Newman · April 17th, 2006, 11:11 AM

Although this is very CineForm related, this is actually a camera announcement. CineForm has partnered with Silicon Imagining to create a camera designed from the compression up to be a digital cinema camera : the Silicon Imaging SI-1920HDVR. There are lots of juicy specs in the press release (http://www.cineform.com/press/rel-SI1920HDVR.htm) and over at the Silicon Imaging web site (http://siliconimaging.com/DigitalCinema/). What makes this mobile, battery operated, direct-top-disk camera (4+ hour record time at 1080p24 10-bit) even possible is the new CineForm RAW™ (http://www.cineform.com/technology/CineForm_RAW.htm) compression. CineForm RAW allows for direct compression for the CMOS sensor data for the highest image quality, dynamic range and post production flexibility. See a fully functioning camera at NAB in he Adobe booth. Places you orders now. :)

David Newman · April 17th, 2006, 12:07 PM

P.S. I have added some history on this projhect on my blog at cineform.blogspot.com

Serge Victorovich · April 18th, 2006, 05:23 AM

WOW! Amazing! David, congratulation!

Pete Bauer · April 18th, 2006, 05:45 AM

I have to admit that I haven't taken the time to pay much attention to the alternative imaging side of DVi. Well, you've got my attention now!

If this doesn't shake up the HD world, I don't know what will. Are there any pictures available, or do we have to wait for NAB to get a peek? Looking forward to meeting you and learning more in Vegas!

Congratulations to you, David, and to all your partners in this effort as well!

Glenn Thomas · April 18th, 2006, 05:47 AM

That sounds brilliant! Well done. I guess the obvious question that will be asked is whether there will be a 'rolling shutter' effect from the CMOS sensor? Also, how portable is it?

Kevin Shaw · April 18th, 2006, 06:03 AM

David: this sounds very promising. Can you give us any hint about the size and weight of the camera and some sort of rough price range? Or at least indicate whether these details will be available at NAB?

Serge Victorovich · April 18th, 2006, 06:50 AM

Pete Bauer
http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...illimages.html
http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...y_footage.html

Alex Raskin · April 18th, 2006, 08:32 AM

I think Cineform Aspect HD codec is very high quality, it lets you have the job done fast, and I wish it was hardware-supported on EVERY HD(V) camera.

David Newman · April 18th, 2006, 09:06 AM

Kevin,

Those details and more are to be revealed at NAB.

Don Donatello · April 18th, 2006, 02:57 PM

i've been yes/no/yes/no on buying prospect HD ...

now it looks like i can get it free ( packaged) with the Digital Cinema camera ???
now , if i buy it before the camera comes out will they give me a 2K discount/refund/credit/trade in ???

can't wait to see more images !!!

i'm not rolling over my $CD when it comes due this sat.

David Newman · April 18th, 2006, 03:22 PM

Silicon Imaging has licensed an OEM version of Prospect HD Edit to ship with the camera -- so it is not the full price product -- but they (SI) may offer the camera without PHD-E (for some discount,) for users of PHD-Ingest or Prospect 2K. This is an SI discussion.

Don Donatello · April 18th, 2006, 03:55 PM

what is the difference between a OEM and a full price version?

is the trial version equal to OEM or full price version ?

also when the trial version expires is it going to affect connect HD on my system ?
if i remove trial - will that take out the cineform codec for connect HD/Vegas ..

David Newman · April 18th, 2006, 04:06 PM

OEM pricing is never revealed. Trail and OEM are not related -- sorry I don't understand your question.

Note: you should not have mixed Connect HD with AHD or PHD installs. You will have to uninstall both and install Connect HD (or PHD if you purchase that.)

Christopher Glaeser · April 18th, 2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

OEM pricing is never revealed.

Could be mistaken, but I read his question to mean, "what is the difference in features?"

Best,
Christopher

Don Donatello · April 18th, 2006, 04:39 PM

does the OEM version have the same features/work the same as prospectHD sold on cineform ?

is the trial a full working version ?

April 17th, 2006, 11:11 AM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The best way to edit natively -- CineForm RAW in the camera. Although this is very CineForm related, this is actually a camera announcement. CineForm has partnered with Silicon Imagining to create a camera designed from the compression up to be a digital cinema camera : the Silicon Imaging SI-1920HDVR. There are lots of juicy specs in the press release (http://www.cineform.com/press/rel-SI1920HDVR.htm) and over at the Silicon Imaging web site (http://siliconimaging.com/DigitalCinema/). What makes this mobile, battery operated, direct-top-disk camera (4+ hour record time at 1080p24 10-bit) even possible is the new CineForm RAW™ (http://www.cineform.com/technology/CineForm_RAW.htm) compression. CineForm RAW allows for direct compression for the CMOS sensor data for the highest image quality, dynamic range and post production flexibility. See a fully functioning camera at NAB in he Adobe booth. Places you orders now. :) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 17th, 2006, 12:07 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	P.S. I have added some history on this projhect on my blog at cineform.blogspot.com __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 18th, 2006, 05:45 AM	#4
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	I have to admit that I haven't taken the time to pay much attention to the alternative imaging side of DVi. Well, you've got my attention now! If this doesn't shake up the HD world, I don't know what will. Are there any pictures available, or do we have to wait for NAB to get a peek? Looking forward to meeting you and learning more in Vegas! Congratulations to you, David, and to all your partners in this effort as well! __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

April 18th, 2006, 08:32 AM	#8
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	I think Cineform Aspect HD codec is very high quality, it lets you have the job done fast, and I wish it was hardware-supported on EVERY HD(V) camera. Last edited by Alex Raskin; April 18th, 2006 at 10:45 AM.

April 18th, 2006, 09:06 AM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Kevin, Those details and more are to be revealed at NAB. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 18th, 2006, 05:23 AM	#3
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	WOW! Amazing! David, congratulation!

April 18th, 2006, 05:47 AM	#5
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	That sounds brilliant! Well done. I guess the obvious question that will be asked is whether there will be a 'rolling shutter' effect from the CMOS sensor? Also, how portable is it?

April 18th, 2006, 06:03 AM	#6
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	David: this sounds very promising. Can you give us any hint about the size and weight of the camera and some sort of rough price range? Or at least indicate whether these details will be available at NAB?

April 18th, 2006, 06:50 AM	#7
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Pete Bauer http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...illimages.html http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita...y_footage.html

April 18th, 2006, 02:57 PM	#10
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	i've been yes/no/yes/no on buying prospect HD ... now it looks like i can get it free ( packaged) with the Digital Cinema camera ??? now , if i buy it before the camera comes out will they give me a 2K discount/refund/credit/trade in ??? can't wait to see more images !!! i'm not rolling over my $CD when it comes due this sat.

April 18th, 2006, 03:22 PM	#11
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Silicon Imaging has licensed an OEM version of Prospect HD Edit to ship with the camera -- so it is not the full price product -- but they (SI) may offer the camera without PHD-E (for some discount,) for users of PHD-Ingest or Prospect 2K. This is an SI discussion. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 18th, 2006, 03:55 PM	#12
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	what is the difference between a OEM and a full price version? is the trial version equal to OEM or full price version ? also when the trial version expires is it going to affect connect HD on my system ? if i remove trial - will that take out the cineform codec for connect HD/Vegas ..

April 18th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#13
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	OEM pricing is never revealed. Trail and OEM are not related -- sorry I don't understand your question. Note: you should not have mixed Connect HD with AHD or PHD installs. You will have to uninstall both and install Connect HD (or PHD if you purchase that.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 18th, 2006, 04:39 PM	#15
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	does the OEM version have the same features/work the same as prospectHD sold on cineform ? is the trial a full working version ?