New Silicon Imaging SI-1920HDVR Digital Cinema Camera

Eric Gorski · April 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM

seeing the way that camera handles highlights in the bright sun nearly brought a tear to my eye. congrats! looks like you guys pulled it off :)

Nate Weaver · April 21st, 2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Gorski

seeing the way that camera handles highlights in the bright sun nearly brought a tear to my eye.

I kinda peed a little when I saw that also. So far I'm believing the 10-stop range that's being claimed.

So far, it looks like SI has pulled off what RED is shooting for minus the extra res, and large sensor. These are fine, fine days we're living in.

Marco Leavitt · April 21st, 2006, 01:36 PM

I kind of like the sensor size. Realistically, it looks like pulling focus on these cameras, especially with the difficulties in monitoring, is going to be really tough with a very shallow depth of field. Plus, aren't 16mm film lenses way cheaper than 35mm film lenses?

Nate Weaver · April 21st, 2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Leavitt

Plus, aren't 16mm film lenses way cheaper than 35mm film lenses?

On the whole, yes. Really top shelf modern ones are effectively out of reach still though. But a set of 16 speeds is not too crazy in price, and VERY easy to find to rent.

Steve Nordhauser · April 23rd, 2006, 01:29 AM

The first public pictures of the camera in action are posted under Virtual NAB:

http://www.siliconimaging.com/phpBB/index.php

Joshua Miller · April 23rd, 2006, 04:48 AM

I cant wait to see a breakdown in pricing. This is unreal. Judging by the footage on your site, this is the camera I've waited all of my life for. I'm dying to see some info on release dates and pricing.

Levan Bakhia · April 23rd, 2006, 07:41 AM

Maybe it is an obviouse question and studip to ask, but how about DOF? I mean, sensor is 2/3 so it is not like 35mm size. What kind of lenses can be used ? Cinema? What mount? Will it have shallow DOF like when working on 35mm film?

David Newman · April 23rd, 2006, 09:38 AM

Levan,

SI has many of those detail explain here: http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita..._features.html. Basically the camera will shoot and handle like Super16 (only more resolution), and because of the simplified optical path (vs a 2/3" Video like CineAlta) you can put very wide aperature lens on it to have a lot of DOF flexibility.

Jaime Valles · April 23rd, 2006, 10:01 AM

Well, the photos prove it's real! It looks pretty big... How easy is it to use handheld, without a SteadyCam?

4 hours of 1080p. Wow. Digital Cinema is about to become a reality overnight.

David Newman · April 23rd, 2006, 10:14 AM

I seen photos with it shoulder mounted on a earlier unit -- which I promised I wouldn't share. So these new photos on a stabilizer show it is very veratile, even if a bit larger than today's HDV cameras.

Heath McKnight · April 23rd, 2006, 10:24 AM

That is an interesting look.

heath

David Newman · April 23rd, 2006, 12:20 PM

More images from yesterday's shoot up on my blog : http://cineform.blogspot.com/

Heath McKnight · April 23rd, 2006, 12:33 PM

That looks like an old-school 16mm film camera, but with 21st century advanced technology on the inside! I can't wait to give it a go with Jon Fordham.

heath

Brian Drysdale · April 23rd, 2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David Newman

More images from yesterday's shoot up on my blog : http://cineform.blogspot.com/

I've only seen the 7" monitor mentioned, I assume there's also a viewfinder available for hand held shooting?

Do you have any details? How well does it balance for handheld work?

Serge Victorovich · April 24th, 2006, 03:27 AM

Wayne, i mean Elphel cameras which is cheap, because manufactured in China.
Guys from Moscow Center Of Television Technology
able to programming FPGA and already have solution for video camera.
You can hire also skilled programmers from Minsk (White Russia) very cheap.
But best way is ask Andrey Filippov about possibility to make option write compressed
RAW from CMOS direct to disk 2.5" inside remote camera head.

April 23rd, 2006, 01:29 AM	#35
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	SI-1920HDVR Live & In-Action in Las Vegas The first public pictures of the camera in action are posted under Virtual NAB: http://www.siliconimaging.com/phpBB/index.php __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

April 23rd, 2006, 04:48 AM	#36
Joshua Miller Tourist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 3	pricing I cant wait to see a breakdown in pricing. This is unreal. Judging by the footage on your site, this is the camera I've waited all of my life for. I'm dying to see some info on release dates and pricing.

April 23rd, 2006, 07:41 AM	#37
Levan Bakhia Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Maybe it is an obviouse question and studip to ask, but how about DOF? I mean, sensor is 2/3 so it is not like 35mm size. What kind of lenses can be used ? Cinema? What mount? Will it have shallow DOF like when working on 35mm film? __________________ ____________ www.sarke.ge ---------------- ____________

April 23rd, 2006, 09:38 AM	#38
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Levan, SI has many of those detail explain here: http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita..._features.html. Basically the camera will shoot and handle like Super16 (only more resolution), and because of the simplified optical path (vs a 2/3" Video like CineAlta) you can put very wide aperature lens on it to have a lot of DOF flexibility. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 23rd, 2006, 10:14 AM	#40
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I seen photos with it shoulder mounted on a earlier unit -- which I promised I wouldn't share. So these new photos on a stabilizer show it is very veratile, even if a bit larger than today's HDV cameras. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM	#31
Eric Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Western Oregon Posts: 138	seeing the way that camera handles highlights in the bright sun nearly brought a tear to my eye. congrats! looks like you guys pulled it off :)

April 21st, 2006, 01:36 PM	#33
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I kind of like the sensor size. Realistically, it looks like pulling focus on these cameras, especially with the difficulties in monitoring, is going to be really tough with a very shallow depth of field. Plus, aren't 16mm film lenses way cheaper than 35mm film lenses?

April 23rd, 2006, 10:01 AM	#39
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	Well, the photos prove it's real! It looks pretty big... How easy is it to use handheld, without a SteadyCam? 4 hours of 1080p. Wow. Digital Cinema is about to become a reality overnight.

April 23rd, 2006, 10:24 AM	#41
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	That is an interesting look. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

April 23rd, 2006, 12:20 PM	#42
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	More images from yesterday's shoot up on my blog : http://cineform.blogspot.com/ __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 23rd, 2006, 12:33 PM	#43
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	That looks like an old-school 16mm film camera, but with 21st century advanced technology on the inside! I can't wait to give it a go with Jon Fordham. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

April 24th, 2006, 03:27 AM	#45
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Wayne, i mean Elphel cameras which is cheap, because manufactured in China. Guys from Moscow Center Of Television Technology able to programming FPGA and already have solution for video camera. You can hire also skilled programmers from Minsk (White Russia) very cheap. But best way is ask Andrey Filippov about possibility to make option write compressed RAW from CMOS direct to disk 2.5" inside remote camera head.