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Andreas Fernbrant · May 21st, 2003, 09:59 AM

Hey guys. A new picture.. tell me what you think..

http://www.fernbrant.com/andreas/dvinfo.html

/Andreas

Ken Tanaka · May 21st, 2003, 10:42 AM

What are we looking at (beyond the obvious), Andreas? What is special about it?

Rob Lohman · May 21st, 2003, 10:49 AM

I think it has a nice composition. Clear shot. Nice.

Nori Wentworth · May 21st, 2003, 10:55 AM

I'm not feeling the emotion... MORE EMOTION!!!!

Andreas Fernbrant · May 21st, 2003, 11:54 AM

I?m sorry, I should have been clearer about what it was.
This is another picture from my project "saltomortalez" Read more here

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=9507

This is part of the intro of the movie where a gymnast is preparing for a big jump. I just wanted comments on lightning, emotion and stuff like that... Comment "I like, I don't like" comments...

Quite good DOF for a XL1 standard lens? His hear is out of focus.
This is a frame grab with color correction, contrast and then converted to B&W...

Plus I wanted to show people who not yet own a XL1 what they can achieve...

/Andreas

Nigel Moore · May 21st, 2003, 12:06 PM

I liked the shot, but until you explained how you'd captured it, it was just a nice shot.

I agree about the DOF. This shot nicely shows what the XL1 can do. Whether or not it's as good as film is moot IMO...it's damn good in its own right.

Ken Tanaka · May 21st, 2003, 12:13 PM

Aha, well in that context it's an interesting shot. I might be tempted to do a slow creep to his eye, where a reflection of the equipment he's about to attack gradually begins to appear to the audience. Meanwhile, I envision the ambient sounds of a gymnasium being gradually drrowned by the swelling sound of an increasing heartbeat. Thump-thump......thump-thump..thump-thump.thump-thump..

OK enough for my runaway imagination.

So I guess this means that you done good, Andreas! <g>

Andreas Fernbrant · May 21st, 2003, 12:17 PM

I promise I will put up the final version when it's done..
I still need to get some shots of him running. And I'm working on getting the right feeling with sound and hevy breathing..

Thank you for the kind words!

/Andy

Andreas Fernbrant · May 21st, 2003, 03:54 PM

So, I've finished the intro..
still lack music but sound effects are there (But low)

I hope you guys/gals don't mind me when I post stuff
like this all the time. I just want opinions and hints on what
I can do better. If I bother anyone with my posts just tell me
and I'll lay off these posts..

http://www.fernbrant.com/andreas/final2.mpg

Kevin Burnfield · May 21st, 2003, 04:08 PM

I liked it. Good lighting and editing.

Love those shots where you can see the particles fly off someone.

The only thing I might do would be place a small light so that as he goes out of the light off the end of the tramp that there's a flash of him in mid air before he disappears completely.

care to share some of the technical aspects of this with us as far as what camera, what post work and other details?

Ken Tanaka · May 21st, 2003, 04:19 PM

I thought it was excellent. Please do continue to share these with us!

Also please do share some of the production and post-production details, too. What camera? What method did you use to achieve the slo-mo?

What comes after this sequence?

Rob Lohman · May 21st, 2003, 04:53 PM

Very very very nice!! Well done! I'd love to hear some details
as well!

Akos Szemenyei · May 21st, 2003, 08:51 PM

You hit the TV commercial feeling a 100% correctly the way it is now. The shots are very clean and the emotions portrayed are just like in a commercial. I don't understand whether this is a short film, documentary, commercial or something else you are trying to do.

IF you want it to get a more film like feeling you have to shoot the "obstacle" and inter cut it with our heros reactions and feelings as he is trying to overcome that hurdle.

Excellent DP work.

Andreas Fernbrant · May 22nd, 2003, 09:13 AM

OK, I've got the feedback I wanted.. I just want to get some opinions on my work because I get "blind" so fast and It feels good to know it was accepted..

I'll take the file down in a few hours. If people want to know more or see it again feel free to contact me.

Email: fta@home.se
or just write me a PM here...

Now for the questions and I'm going to answer them as good as I can..

1.
"I don't understand whether this is a short film, documentary, commercial or something else you are trying to do."
A: I'm doing an extreme sports video/film with gymnastics/acrobatics and martialarts. But not any other extreme sports video, I focus on great video, sound and production..

2."What camera?"
A: Canon XL1S (standard lens) Manual mode..

3."What method did you use to achieve the slo-mo?"
A: I used vegas resample function.. I filmed it interlaced (otherwise the slomo don't work) and at 1/100th to reduce blur.
(I use 25PAL)

4."I'd love to hear some details"
A: He is born 1981. Elite gymnast.... Nah, just kidding!:))
Most of the shots where taken in a studio with 2 lights.. Infact it
was 2 photograph lights (I used them as video lights) just did some white balance and I knew I was going black and white so it
didn't bother me that much.. One running shot and the final jump was shot in a Tennis complex. We got them to turn the lights off for our shots.. One light was used at these shots.. A daylight 1000W lamp... The cheapest way is to know people and borrow their lights!

Thanks again everybody for the nice feedback!
/Andreas

Rob Lohman · May 22nd, 2003, 02:23 PM

Very nice composition with such a "simple" setup... Kudos!

May 21st, 2003, 09:59 AM	#1
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	Picture... Hey guys. A new picture.. tell me what you think.. http://www.fernbrant.com/andreas/dvinfo.html /Andreas

May 21st, 2003, 10:42 AM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	What are we looking at (beyond the obvious), Andreas? What is special about it? __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 21st, 2003, 10:49 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I think it has a nice composition. Clear shot. Nice. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 21st, 2003, 12:06 PM	#6
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	I liked the shot, but until you explained how you'd captured it, it was just a nice shot. I agree about the DOF. This shot nicely shows what the XL1 can do. Whether or not it's as good as film is moot IMO...it's damn good in its own right. __________________ _________________ Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana

May 21st, 2003, 12:13 PM	#7
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Aha, well in that context it's an interesting shot. I might be tempted to do a slow creep to his eye, where a reflection of the equipment he's about to attack gradually begins to appear to the audience. Meanwhile, I envision the ambient sounds of a gymnasium being gradually drrowned by the swelling sound of an increasing heartbeat. Thump-thump......thump-thump..thump-thump.thump-thump.. OK enough for my runaway imagination. So I guess this means that you done good, Andreas! <g> __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 21st, 2003, 10:55 AM	#4
Nori Wentworth Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kelowna, B.C. Canada Posts: 217	I'm not feeling the emotion... MORE EMOTION!!!!

May 21st, 2003, 11:54 AM	#5
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	I?m sorry, I should have been clearer about what it was. This is another picture from my project "saltomortalez" Read more here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=9507 This is part of the intro of the movie where a gymnast is preparing for a big jump. I just wanted comments on lightning, emotion and stuff like that... Comment "I like, I don't like" comments... Quite good DOF for a XL1 standard lens? His hear is out of focus. This is a frame grab with color correction, contrast and then converted to B&W... Plus I wanted to show people who not yet own a XL1 what they can achieve... /Andreas

May 21st, 2003, 12:17 PM	#8
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	I promise I will put up the final version when it's done.. I still need to get some shots of him running. And I'm working on getting the right feeling with sound and hevy breathing.. Thank you for the kind words! /Andy

May 21st, 2003, 03:54 PM	#9
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	So, I've finished the intro.. still lack music but sound effects are there (But low) I hope you guys/gals don't mind me when I post stuff like this all the time. I just want opinions and hints on what I can do better. If I bother anyone with my posts just tell me and I'll lay off these posts.. http://www.fernbrant.com/andreas/final2.mpg

May 21st, 2003, 04:08 PM	#10
Kevin Burnfield Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 363	I liked it. Good lighting and editing. Love those shots where you can see the particles fly off someone. The only thing I might do would be place a small light so that as he goes out of the light off the end of the tramp that there's a flash of him in mid air before he disappears completely. care to share some of the technical aspects of this with us as far as what camera, what post work and other details?

May 21st, 2003, 04:19 PM	#11
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	I thought it was excellent. Please do continue to share these with us! Also please do share some of the production and post-production details, too. What camera? What method did you use to achieve the slo-mo? What comes after this sequence? __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 21st, 2003, 04:53 PM	#12
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Very very very nice!! Well done! I'd love to hear some details as well! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 21st, 2003, 08:51 PM	#13
Akos Szemenyei Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Saitama, Japan Posts: 111	You hit the TV commercial feeling a 100% correctly the way it is now. The shots are very clean and the emotions portrayed are just like in a commercial. I don't understand whether this is a short film, documentary, commercial or something else you are trying to do. IF you want it to get a more film like feeling you have to shoot the "obstacle" and inter cut it with our heros reactions and feelings as he is trying to overcome that hurdle. Excellent DP work.

May 22nd, 2003, 09:13 AM	#14
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	OK, I've got the feedback I wanted.. I just want to get some opinions on my work because I get "blind" so fast and It feels good to know it was accepted.. I'll take the file down in a few hours. If people want to know more or see it again feel free to contact me. Email: fta@home.se or just write me a PM here... Now for the questions and I'm going to answer them as good as I can.. 1. "I don't understand whether this is a short film, documentary, commercial or something else you are trying to do." A: I'm doing an extreme sports video/film with gymnastics/acrobatics and martialarts. But not any other extreme sports video, I focus on great video, sound and production.. 2."What camera?" A: Canon XL1S (standard lens) Manual mode.. 3."What method did you use to achieve the slo-mo?" A: I used vegas resample function.. I filmed it interlaced (otherwise the slomo don't work) and at 1/100th to reduce blur. (I use 25PAL) 4."I'd love to hear some details" A: He is born 1981. Elite gymnast.... Nah, just kidding!:)) Most of the shots where taken in a studio with 2 lights.. Infact it was 2 photograph lights (I used them as video lights) just did some white balance and I knew I was going black and white so it didn't bother me that much.. One running shot and the final jump was shot in a Tennis complex. We got them to turn the lights off for our shots.. One light was used at these shots.. A daylight 1000W lamp... The cheapest way is to know people and borrow their lights! Thanks again everybody for the nice feedback! /Andreas

May 22nd, 2003, 02:23 PM	#15
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Very nice composition with such a "simple" setup... Kudos! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors