Short little scene from my movie at DVinfo.net

Marlon Torres · February 16th, 2007, 06:06 PM

I'd like some feedback on what works and doesn't. Thanks.

http://www.citizencine.com/films/cel...cene04_web.mov

Brian Duke · February 16th, 2007, 06:32 PM

Looks good. A little dark (underlite) for my taste. Also I would work on the sound, probably do some ADR instead of the camera mic sound now. Poor sound just makes it less appealing. Its very easy and it makes a HUGH difference getting crisp sound. Its not like you have huge emotional outbreaks you are trying to recreate. The dialogue seems straight forward. Acting was good, which is pretty rare with indie films, so congratulations on that.

Can you share some information, such as Camera used, settings, storyline etc. Is this from a feature, short?

Marlon Torres · February 16th, 2007, 06:40 PM

Sound is definitely rough, haven't had a chance to work on it. This is a work in progress :) I used a XH-A1 with an M2 adapter. It is probably going to be a 20-30 minute flick. It's a love story about a guy who loses something only to find it a thousand years later :)

Brian Duke · February 16th, 2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres

Sound is definitely rough, haven't had a chance to work on it. This is a work in progress :) I used a XH-A1 with an M2 adapter. It is probably going to be a 20-30 minute flick. It's a love story about a guy who loses something only to find it a thousand years later :)

Marlon,

My advice if you do a short is to make it under 10 minutes. UNLESS you REALLY have somehting special, which I am sure everyone feel they have. Most people online or at festivals don't have time or patience to watch long shorts. Majority of times you can get your point across in much less time that you may think.

How does the quality look on a big monitor? How do you like the M2?

Mike Horrigan · February 17th, 2007, 10:32 AM

I also found it a little too dark in spots but the image is still very nice to look at. The pacing could be a little quicker but overall I thought I was quite nice. I liked some of the shots you used as well...

Nice work.

Marlon Torres · February 17th, 2007, 11:37 AM

I'm bumping up the midtones and fixing the audio as well, ill post a "fixed" version soon.

Brian, quality looks great on a plasma.

Greg Quinn · February 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM

Marlon;
This is very nice - you have a natural eye for composition, and the scenes were put together beautifully. FWIW, I think you have a real talent for this.

I'd concur with the others about the sound - it's almost like it's shot MOS, which is all the more bizarre since the images are so beautiful and professional looking. In respect to the image brightness, which is a bit dark, but not impossibly so, I'd comment that it looks to me that you have noticeable vignetting in the wide angle shots - what wide angle/cam combination are you using?

Marlon Torres · February 18th, 2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Quinn

Marlon;
This is very nice - you have a natural eye for composition, and the scenes were put together beautifully. FWIW, I think you have a real talent for this.

I'd concur with the others about the sound - it's almost like it's shot MOS, which is all the more bizarre since the images are so beautiful and professional looking. In respect to the image brightness, which is a bit dark, but not impossibly so, I'd comment that it looks to me that you have noticeable vignetting in the wide angle shots - what wide angle/cam combination are you using?

i am using a xh-a1 with m2 adapter, nikon 24mm lenses

Marlon Torres · February 18th, 2007, 05:05 PM

i updated the file, should be a bit better (a wee brighter) ... improved the dialog a bit, but yeah... looks like ADR will be necessary.

Greg Quinn · February 18th, 2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlon Torres

i am using a xh-a1 with m2 adapter, nikon 24mm lenses

Marlon, I'm not any kind of expert about 35mm adapters, but I think that you need to tweek the setup of the M2, which can be prone to vignetting like other adapters. Vignetting is clearly visible in a couple of shots.

Marlon Torres · February 18th, 2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Quinn

Marlon, I'm not any kind of expert about 35mm adapters, but I think that you need to tweek the setup of the M2, which can be prone to vignetting like other adapters. Vignetting is clearly visible in a couple of shots.

Vignetting only seems to happen with the wide-angle lens, i dont really mind it since the scene is a flashback sequence. Kinda makes it artsy :), now i just gotta add vignetting on the other shots.

February 16th, 2007, 06:06 PM	#1
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Short little scene from my movie I'd like some feedback on what works and doesn't. Thanks. http://www.citizencine.com/films/cel...cene04_web.mov

February 16th, 2007, 06:32 PM	#2
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	Looks good. A little dark (underlite) for my taste. Also I would work on the sound, probably do some ADR instead of the camera mic sound now. Poor sound just makes it less appealing. Its very easy and it makes a HUGH difference getting crisp sound. Its not like you have huge emotional outbreaks you are trying to recreate. The dialogue seems straight forward. Acting was good, which is pretty rare with indie films, so congratulations on that. Can you share some information, such as Camera used, settings, storyline etc. Is this from a feature, short? __________________ Visit me and my work at www.artofduke.com

February 17th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#5
Mike Horrigan Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 755	I also found it a little too dark in spots but the image is still very nice to look at. The pacing could be a little quicker but overall I thought I was quite nice. I liked some of the shots you used as well... Nice work. __________________ My short films... The Interview & Calls From The Führerbunker

February 16th, 2007, 06:40 PM	#3
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Sound is definitely rough, haven't had a chance to work on it. This is a work in progress :) I used a XH-A1 with an M2 adapter. It is probably going to be a 20-30 minute flick. It's a love story about a guy who loses something only to find it a thousand years later :)

February 17th, 2007, 11:37 AM	#6
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	I'm bumping up the midtones and fixing the audio as well, ill post a "fixed" version soon. Brian, quality looks great on a plasma.

February 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM	#7
Greg Quinn Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 505	Marlon; This is very nice - you have a natural eye for composition, and the scenes were put together beautifully. FWIW, I think you have a real talent for this. I'd concur with the others about the sound - it's almost like it's shot MOS, which is all the more bizarre since the images are so beautiful and professional looking. In respect to the image brightness, which is a bit dark, but not impossibly so, I'd comment that it looks to me that you have noticeable vignetting in the wide angle shots - what wide angle/cam combination are you using?

February 18th, 2007, 05:05 PM	#9
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	i updated the file, should be a bit better (a wee brighter) ... improved the dialog a bit, but yeah... looks like ADR will be necessary.