new lo budget movie trailer shot with FX1

Mike Moncrief · December 9th, 2006, 01:49 PM

Hello,

Thanks Vincent.. I am impressed with the look you have achieved.. I understands the lighting for film aspect and the ability to use a 35 mm lens with the ability to have control depth of field certainly goes a long way to
get that elusive film look.. I am still puzzled by how the 24 FPS cadence is achieved along with the film grain look..

Mike Moncrief

Vincent Pascoe · December 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM

no I hadn't gotten the M2 yet the trailer is all the FX1 stock lens only... no Lens adapter used. The Grain you see is mainly the result of +18DB Gain....

and yes We did crop for 2.35... I first Tested with an anamorphic lens worked great...but the editor didn't want to have to re-squeeze it.......grrrr

VP

Mike Moncrief · December 14th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Hello,

After reading the discussion here.. I did a little experimenting with my FX1.. Shoot some footage in Cinemaframe 30, and cranked up the gain to add some grain.. I also turned the sharpness down to about 4.. to soften a bit.. Results look pretty good.. anyone else have any other input on their picture profile settings to get more of a filmy look??

Thanks,
Mike Moncrief

Vincent Pascoe · December 14th, 2006, 08:46 PM

the best thing you said was experimenting...its so important to a camera test before you shoot. It lets you try things you never did before. and it lets you also know your tools as best as possible...

But try not to just look for a "filmy Look". try to figure out what "look" fits your story best. That should be number one. All of your creative Choices should come from the story, Or the Mood or Tone your trying to Portray if its a Commercial or Music video.

VP

www.vincentpascoe.com

Nathan Brendan Masters · December 21st, 2006, 02:13 AM

Vincent, how did you shoot your first trailer on your site? Did you use CF30 or 1080i for this one?

-Nate

Vincent Pascoe · December 21st, 2006, 03:03 AM

First we did shoot the whole Feature and the director has started to submit the work in progress to Film festivals as a feature 104 mins...with about 30 days of shooting...

we ended up shooting Cineframe 30 at 1080i...which may hurt us if we ever go convert to progressive... but it is far more cinematic than just 60i regular...

VP

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/14908/1164226545.jpg

www.vincentpascoe.com

www.myspace.com/vincentpascoe

Vincent Pascoe · December 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM

wait a sec the first trailer on my website? www.vincentpascoe.com....thats a whole other story....read....

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=56760

sorry if I confused you again...

VP

Vincent Pascoe · February 7th, 2007, 01:59 PM

the movie made it into the Phoenix Film festival in Arizona , April 14-19 or something...

and going back the one shot I did with fx1 and the M2 with out the bellows. it was unusable to use it was so different with massive vignetting.

VP

www.vincentpascoe.com

Andy Lunn · February 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM

the shot from rear seat showing sunset looks fantastic, was there any internal lighting or post effects used?, great work, what process did you use to film this?

Michael Barrette · March 2nd, 2007, 03:55 AM

Hi Vincent,

I'm curious what you mean when you say: "which may hurt us if we ever go convert to progressive."?

How exactly will this cause a problem and why would you ever have to convert to progressive?

Thanks, still trying to get up to speed on all the format options and their ramifications.

Cheers,
New guy - Michael

Carlos E. Martinez · March 2nd, 2007, 05:25 AM

Hi Vincent,

Two questions:

1) You said you tried an anamorphic lens and it was great. Was it a 16 x 9 add-on? Which one? Always directly on the FX1, right?

2) Are you going to (or already did) transfer your feature to film?

December 9th, 2006, 01:49 PM	#16
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, Thanks Vincent.. I am impressed with the look you have achieved.. I understands the lighting for film aspect and the ability to use a 35 mm lens with the ability to have control depth of field certainly goes a long way to get that elusive film look.. I am still puzzled by how the 24 FPS cadence is achieved along with the film grain look.. Mike Moncrief __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

December 14th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#18
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, After reading the discussion here.. I did a little experimenting with my FX1.. Shoot some footage in Cinemaframe 30, and cranked up the gain to add some grain.. I also turned the sharpness down to about 4.. to soften a bit.. Results look pretty good.. anyone else have any other input on their picture profile settings to get more of a filmy look?? Thanks, Mike Moncrief __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

December 14th, 2006, 08:46 PM	#19
Vincent Pascoe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pheonix, AZ Posts: 37	my little soap box the best thing you said was experimenting...its so important to a camera test before you shoot. It lets you try things you never did before. and it lets you also know your tools as best as possible... But try not to just look for a "filmy Look". try to figure out what "look" fits your story best. That should be number one. All of your creative Choices should come from the story, Or the Mood or Tone your trying to Portray if its a Commercial or Music video. VP www.vincentpascoe.com

February 7th, 2007, 01:59 PM	#23
Vincent Pascoe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pheonix, AZ Posts: 37	Film Festival time the movie made it into the Phoenix Film festival in Arizona , April 14-19 or something... and going back the one shot I did with fx1 and the M2 with out the bellows. it was unusable to use it was so different with massive vignetting. VP www.vincentpascoe.com

December 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM	#17
Vincent Pascoe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pheonix, AZ Posts: 37	no I hadn't gotten the M2 yet the trailer is all the FX1 stock lens only... no Lens adapter used. The Grain you see is mainly the result of +18DB Gain.... and yes We did crop for 2.35... I first Tested with an anamorphic lens worked great...but the editor didn't want to have to re-squeeze it.......grrrr VP

December 21st, 2006, 02:13 AM	#20
Nathan Brendan Masters Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Il. Posts: 85	Vincent, how did you shoot your first trailer on your site? Did you use CF30 or 1080i for this one? -Nate

December 21st, 2006, 03:03 AM	#21
Vincent Pascoe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pheonix, AZ Posts: 37	First we did shoot the whole Feature and the director has started to submit the work in progress to Film festivals as a feature 104 mins...with about 30 days of shooting... we ended up shooting Cineframe 30 at 1080i...which may hurt us if we ever go convert to progressive... but it is far more cinematic than just 60i regular... VP http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/14908/1164226545.jpg www.vincentpascoe.com www.myspace.com/vincentpascoe

December 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM	#22
Vincent Pascoe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pheonix, AZ Posts: 37	wait a sec the first trailer on my website? www.vincentpascoe.com....thats a whole other story....read.... http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=56760 sorry if I confused you again... VP

February 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM	#24
Andy Lunn Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 94	the shot from rear seat showing sunset looks fantastic, was there any internal lighting or post effects used?, great work, what process did you use to film this?

March 2nd, 2007, 03:55 AM	#25
Michael Barrette Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: calgary, Canada Posts: 48	Hi Vincent, I'm curious what you mean when you say: "which may hurt us if we ever go convert to progressive."? How exactly will this cause a problem and why would you ever have to convert to progressive? Thanks, still trying to get up to speed on all the format options and their ramifications. Cheers, New guy - Michael

March 2nd, 2007, 05:25 AM	#26
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	Hi Vincent, Two questions: 1) You said you tried an anamorphic lens and it was great. Was it a 16 x 9 add-on? Which one? Always directly on the FX1, right? 2) Are you going to (or already did) transfer your feature to film?