Show Your Work 2003

Mark Moore · August 10th, 2003, 10:01 PM

Haha. That was pretty entertaining, John. How (why?) in the world would that black cat walk on it's front legs like that???

Thanks for sharing the link.

Rob Lohman · August 11th, 2003, 06:59 AM

You shouldn't. I checked it out and thought that it was a funny
short. I liked the B&W look. The beginning was too slow for my
taste though and the conversion was a bit hard to watch,
although it got better when the guy stepped in (usually people
don't fall for eachother *that* fast though <g>).

A bit more people talking (muffled) in the back might have made
it a bit more like a cafe instead of just two people talking.

Alex Ellerrman · August 11th, 2003, 02:02 PM

Wasn't sure where to put this, but what's the current (evolving) state of digital film fests? I know there are a bunch of specialty fests with DV in the title, mostly suited for lower budget fare, and it looks like Cannes/Sundance/Toronto/Telluride went digital by Y2K, but what about the middle to large fests? Are they in or out on digital projection?

Is the projector cost prohibitive for them? Would you guys push your work to Beta if you entered a fest?

thanks
alex

Keith Loh · August 11th, 2003, 02:34 PM

New York has a video festival.

Alex Ellerrman · August 11th, 2003, 02:44 PM

I think I saw that one... cool - thanks
alex

Michael Westphal · August 11th, 2003, 09:07 PM

John,
It looks good. The lighting is good, the sound is good, and I like the music. The ending sent shivers up my spine.

Thanks for leaving the post up... but if you've changed your mind, there is an edit button below your post...

(Did I see one lapse of continuity in the elevator? As soon as they get in it looks like the guy has good teeth.)

Nori Wentworth · August 12th, 2003, 06:36 PM

That was very cool. I'm a big fan of Tool, so this is right up there.

I'm not sure if the video had any relevance to the song though? But then again, which ones do anymore?

-Nori

Jim Quinlan · August 13th, 2003, 06:06 AM

I enjoyed this short John and thought you did a great job. The acting was also good in my opinion.

The one thing I would change is in the restaurant when she first sees the teeth, I would emphasize a close up of the messed up teeth with an appropriate sound byte (or should I say bite :)

I also would remove the few F@#% words. But that's just my old fashioned way of thinking.

I only hope I can make a short as good as this some day. It's not perfect but pretty darned good. Thanks for sharing it.

Andreas Fernbrant · August 13th, 2003, 06:30 AM

Alex,

How do you get that soft look?
I have a project where this would fit.

Mind telling me how you do it?

Yang Wen · August 13th, 2003, 09:11 AM

not a fan

Alex Knappenberger · August 13th, 2003, 12:46 PM

It's all done in Vegas, baby. ;)

Seriously though. I'll have to write up another "tutorial" on this method, but anyway, i'll describe it the best I can.

In vegas, make 2 video track layers, and duplicate the same video clip and sync them up on both layers, and set the top layer to "screen" (composition mode) and then add a small light guassasian (sp) blur to the bottom video layer, and since the screen makes it brighter, take the brightness down of the bottom layer. Now, I adjust the color curves of the top layer, with regular S curves. Then, I add some more stuff to just the bottom layer, such as HSL Adjust (bump up the saturation all the way), and then the "color correction", and generally give the bottom layer more blueish on the lows, and on the mids, orange/redish...

If you don't have Vegas, i'm sure you can do something similar in AE or other programs....

Good luck, hope this helped for now...

Andreas Fernbrant · August 13th, 2003, 02:03 PM

Great tip! Thanks...
Do you have more of them for diffrent styles?

Kevin Nardelle · August 14th, 2003, 12:55 AM

I posted a low quality version of the music video, it is in windows media format and only 8 meg. 256Kbps

http://www.realnola.com/howlongweb.wmv

Go easy on my webserver now ok..

Let me know what you think, this is my first music video:)

Rob Lohman · August 14th, 2003, 07:06 AM

Liked it... Very nice!

Rob Lohman · August 14th, 2003, 08:13 AM

All funny stuff!

If you want to download that cat movie click here

August 10th, 2003, 10:01 PM	#406
Mark Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 301	Haha. That was pretty entertaining, John. How (why?) in the world would that black cat walk on it's front legs like that??? Thanks for sharing the link. __________________ Mark Moore Sugar Free Productions

August 11th, 2003, 06:59 AM	#407
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You shouldn't. I checked it out and thought that it was a funny short. I liked the B&W look. The beginning was too slow for my taste though and the conversion was a bit hard to watch, although it got better when the guy stepped in (usually people don't fall for eachother that fast though <g>). A bit more people talking (muffled) in the back might have made it a bit more like a cafe instead of just two people talking. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 11th, 2003, 02:02 PM	#408
Alex Ellerrman New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11	DV Film fests... Wasn't sure where to put this, but what's the current (evolving) state of digital film fests? I know there are a bunch of specialty fests with DV in the title, mostly suited for lower budget fare, and it looks like Cannes/Sundance/Toronto/Telluride went digital by Y2K, but what about the middle to large fests? Are they in or out on digital projection? Is the projector cost prohibitive for them? Would you guys push your work to Beta if you entered a fest? thanks alex

August 11th, 2003, 02:34 PM	#409
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	New York has a video festival. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

August 11th, 2003, 02:44 PM	#410
Alex Ellerrman New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11	NY digifest? I think I saw that one... cool - thanks alex

August 11th, 2003, 09:07 PM	#411
Michael Westphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 166	John, It looks good. The lighting is good, the sound is good, and I like the music. The ending sent shivers up my spine. Thanks for leaving the post up... but if you've changed your mind, there is an edit button below your post... (Did I see one lapse of continuity in the elevator? As soon as they get in it looks like the guy has good teeth.) __________________ Michael A Westphal

August 12th, 2003, 06:36 PM	#412
Nori Wentworth Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kelowna, B.C. Canada Posts: 217	That was very cool. I'm a big fan of Tool, so this is right up there. I'm not sure if the video had any relevance to the song though? But then again, which ones do anymore? -Nori

August 13th, 2003, 06:06 AM	#413
Jim Quinlan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 177	I enjoyed this short John and thought you did a great job. The acting was also good in my opinion. The one thing I would change is in the restaurant when she first sees the teeth, I would emphasize a close up of the messed up teeth with an appropriate sound byte (or should I say bite :) I also would remove the few F@#% words. But that's just my old fashioned way of thinking. I only hope I can make a short as good as this some day. It's not perfect but pretty darned good. Thanks for sharing it. __________________ Jim

August 13th, 2003, 06:30 AM	#414
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	Alex, How do you get that soft look? I have a project where this would fit. Mind telling me how you do it?

August 13th, 2003, 09:11 AM	#415
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	not a fan

August 13th, 2003, 12:46 PM	#416
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	It's all done in Vegas, baby. ;) Seriously though. I'll have to write up another "tutorial" on this method, but anyway, i'll describe it the best I can. In vegas, make 2 video track layers, and duplicate the same video clip and sync them up on both layers, and set the top layer to "screen" (composition mode) and then add a small light guassasian (sp) blur to the bottom video layer, and since the screen makes it brighter, take the brightness down of the bottom layer. Now, I adjust the color curves of the top layer, with regular S curves. Then, I add some more stuff to just the bottom layer, such as HSL Adjust (bump up the saturation all the way), and then the "color correction", and generally give the bottom layer more blueish on the lows, and on the mids, orange/redish... If you don't have Vegas, i'm sure you can do something similar in AE or other programs.... Good luck, hope this helped for now...

August 13th, 2003, 02:03 PM	#417
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	Great tip! Thanks... Do you have more of them for diffrent styles?

August 14th, 2003, 12:55 AM	#418
Kevin Nardelle Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Orleans - Metairie Posts: 87	Music Video Posted I posted a low quality version of the music video, it is in windows media format and only 8 meg. 256Kbps http://www.realnola.com/howlongweb.wmv Go easy on my webserver now ok.. Let me know what you think, this is my first music video:) __________________ Regards, Kevin --

August 14th, 2003, 07:06 AM	#419
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Liked it... Very nice! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 14th, 2003, 08:13 AM	#420
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	All funny stuff! If you want to download that cat movie click here __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors