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Spike Spiegel · October 29th, 2005, 12:08 AM

Hi, this is what my company has been working on lately. Its a travel show pilot with the premise: exploring the world one city at a time, through its cuisines. We decided to base the first episode/ pilot episode on Delhi and what cuisines it has to offer (because its so diverse!)

Anyway, we released a small trailer for the show (more in the works). We're more focused on editing the actual pilot than the trailers, so I need some opinions regarding the trailer. Any input is appreciated, please let me know what should be changed etc (in detail). Let me know whether there should be an option for higher res etc.

The whole production is done with a crew of 8 people. Thank you for your time and input.
http://craterlionproductions.com

excuse the dust, the website is still under construction

Click on enter, then sneek peek. Thanks guys, greatly value your opinion!

Glenn Chan · October 29th, 2005, 12:36 AM

I don't think the trailer gives a good idea of your show. Give me a taste of your show. Tell me what it's about, get me interested in it (i.e. make me want to see the rest).

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We're more focused on editing the actual pilot than the trailers, so I need some opinions regarding the trailer.

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Spike Spiegel · October 29th, 2005, 12:49 AM

Hey there Glenn, thanks for your input. I completely understand and agree with you, we're working on the second trailer as we speak. The second one will have the host in it and everything, ie, everything you ask for!

this first one though, is more of a glimpse, thats meant to leave you wondering... That was the aim, hopefully its doing its job. I'm trying to get some input on what people think of this clip so far though. I'll have the second trailer posted in the next few days...

Edit: what i meant by that quote was, we're putting less time on the trailers, we're more focused on editing the pilot. Thats why i'm trying to get a general opinion on the trailer since so little time was spent creating it.

Thanks

Pete Bauer · October 29th, 2005, 06:29 AM

Hi Spike,

I moved the thread to "DV for the Masses" as I think you'll get more response and a wider variety of opinions there.

Agree with Glenn. Just seemed to move slowly, not grab me. If the show is about cuisine of the world, I think there were too many "tourist shots" and not enough "food shots." One shot in particular that I didn't like was the pan of a large building with a lady walking just halfway out of frame on the right side through the whole shot. I'd just drop that shot altogether, or at least crop her out so she's not half-on the screen. The music is also too lulling to get me excited about what my eyes are seeing.

Spike Spiegel · October 29th, 2005, 10:41 AM

Hi Pete, we'll have the kind of trailer you guys are looking for. Thanks for the input, i'll see what I can do to change it up.. I'll post here again when its

Spike Spiegel · October 30th, 2005, 02:24 AM

in the meanwhile, any new viewers, feel free to comment on the first trailer. Its supposed to be a glimpse, an very slow paced glance of the show, we'll have a variety of trailers, this ones the slow one...

Erwin Keizer · October 30th, 2005, 03:39 AM

If you don't mind I can give a few comments on this teaser.

It is a one minute short. Every second is valuable. You loose the first 8 seconds with titles. I think you could start directly with footage and if needed put a layer with titles over it, or put them at the end.

First shot is the airplane, I miss the foley here: put a jetplane sound with it! Some soundscapes here and there won't hurt.

As said already, it is slow and it starts off with a couple of touristic shots, get to the food and cuisine as soon as possible. Make us feel hungry ;-) Put a voice-over with it telling a few things about the show, for example let Jessica your hostess do a voice-over.

I would also put a URL to visit at the end of the trailer, that way ppl can trace back where the trailer originated.

Good luck, regards,
Erwin

Spike Spiegel · October 31st, 2005, 01:39 PM

thanks for the comments. I agree with you Erwin, about the intro. Haven't thought of it like that. I kind of wanted to keepthe field sounds out of this one. the next trailer will be a lot more direct, get to know the host, the show, field audio, cooking shots, kind of deal. Thanks for any input, i'll see what i can do to cater to those inputs.

October 29th, 2005, 12:08 AM	#1
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	Need your opinion on this trailer Hi, this is what my company has been working on lately. Its a travel show pilot with the premise: exploring the world one city at a time, through its cuisines. We decided to base the first episode/ pilot episode on Delhi and what cuisines it has to offer (because its so diverse!) Anyway, we released a small trailer for the show (more in the works). We're more focused on editing the actual pilot than the trailers, so I need some opinions regarding the trailer. Any input is appreciated, please let me know what should be changed etc (in detail). Let me know whether there should be an option for higher res etc. The whole production is done with a crew of 8 people. Thank you for your time and input. http://craterlionproductions.com excuse the dust, the website is still under construction Click on enter, then sneek peek. Thanks guys, greatly value your opinion!

October 29th, 2005, 12:49 AM	#3
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	Hey there Glenn, thanks for your input. I completely understand and agree with you, we're working on the second trailer as we speak. The second one will have the host in it and everything, ie, everything you ask for! this first one though, is more of a glimpse, thats meant to leave you wondering... That was the aim, hopefully its doing its job. I'm trying to get some input on what people think of this clip so far though. I'll have the second trailer posted in the next few days... Edit: what i meant by that quote was, we're putting less time on the trailers, we're more focused on editing the pilot. Thats why i'm trying to get a general opinion on the trailer since so little time was spent creating it. Thanks Last edited by Spike Spiegel; October 29th, 2005 at 02:47 AM.

October 29th, 2005, 06:29 AM	#4
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Hi Spike, I moved the thread to "DV for the Masses" as I think you'll get more response and a wider variety of opinions there. Agree with Glenn. Just seemed to move slowly, not grab me. If the show is about cuisine of the world, I think there were too many "tourist shots" and not enough "food shots." One shot in particular that I didn't like was the pan of a large building with a lady walking just halfway out of frame on the right side through the whole shot. I'd just drop that shot altogether, or at least crop her out so she's not half-on the screen. The music is also too lulling to get me excited about what my eyes are seeing. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 29th, 2005, 10:41 AM	#5
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	Hi Pete, we'll have the kind of trailer you guys are looking for. Thanks for the input, i'll see what I can do to change it up.. I'll post here again when its

October 30th, 2005, 02:24 AM	#6
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	in the meanwhile, any new viewers, feel free to comment on the first trailer. Its supposed to be a glimpse, an very slow paced glance of the show, we'll have a variety of trailers, this ones the slow one...

October 30th, 2005, 03:39 AM	#7
Erwin Keizer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 29	If you don't mind I can give a few comments on this teaser. It is a one minute short. Every second is valuable. You loose the first 8 seconds with titles. I think you could start directly with footage and if needed put a layer with titles over it, or put them at the end. First shot is the airplane, I miss the foley here: put a jetplane sound with it! Some soundscapes here and there won't hurt. As said already, it is slow and it starts off with a couple of touristic shots, get to the food and cuisine as soon as possible. Make us feel hungry ;-) Put a voice-over with it telling a few things about the show, for example let Jessica your hostess do a voice-over. I would also put a URL to visit at the end of the trailer, that way ppl can trace back where the trailer originated. Good luck, regards, Erwin

October 31st, 2005, 01:39 PM	#8
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	thanks for the comments. I agree with you Erwin, about the intro. Haven't thought of it like that. I kind of wanted to keepthe field sounds out of this one. the next trailer will be a lot more direct, get to know the host, the show, field audio, cooking shots, kind of deal. Thanks for any input, i'll see what i can do to cater to those inputs.