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Rafal Krolik · October 19th, 2005, 09:52 AM

WOW, it's been a while since I posted anything but it has been busy on this end. This might be rushing things a bit since I need to remove the lens dust from it, but here's the latest music video I finished for Eric Stevens.
Any comments will be appreciated
http://www.sevillemedia.com/ericstev...mewannadie.wmv

Ken Beals · December 28th, 2005, 02:33 AM

I like it bro. Since I am a big advocate of stabilized hand held shooting the intro with the girl turning on the TV with the remote was a bit too shaky for my taste.

The concept of the lead Singer walking down that long long road and his band mates joining in at staggered intervals worked for me.

The crossfades with the closeups were a wee bit annoying would have preferred if you just transitioned to the closeup of the singer then back to the wide shot.

Like the song, overall liked it. Did you shoot the guys walking down the long road from a vehicle ?

Rafal Krolik · December 28th, 2005, 08:41 AM

Hi Ken

I'm like you. I love long, steady, panning movements but the band wanted shaky and chaotic so what you is strictly client's request.
The walk down the road was indeed shot from the back hatch of a full size van. Using my arms to hold the door together and praying not to fall out, all while screaming at the lead singer to keep the distance since he had a tendency to walk like a slinky. As for the whole concept of transitions while walking, that was done to enhance the visual being in slow motion while the singing was synched at normal speed.

Thanks a lot for your feedback

Giuseppe Palumbo · January 3rd, 2006, 09:58 PM

Just wondering, but what was the shutter at? cause i dunno if it was the compression but it seemed a little jittery maybe.

Eniola Akintoye · January 4th, 2006, 01:16 AM

Pretty nice to me Rafal,
Did you use any adapter for that or was it just color correction?

Oh by the way, that song was hot!.

Derrick A.Jones · January 4th, 2006, 08:28 AM

the video was good. i didnt notice any jitters in that. song was good also. but one question why he always throwing his head back...lol

the jitters are from the handheld shots which are usuall when doing hend held when your moving

Sean McHenry · January 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM

I liked it. A lot. Good work I would say. I have seen much less on MTV, back when they actually had music videos on that is.

Sean McHenry

Richard Alvarez · January 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM

NIce song, I'd listen to it again.

Good concept, executed well. BUT -

What was with the parked car on the side of the road? I kept waiting for a pay-off. I mean, he's walking down the road, he's being joined by the band members, we're intercutting with the girlfriend, THEY WALK PAST A CAR PARKED HEADED OUT ONTO THE ROAD THEY ARE WALKING DOWN... the girl is loading up a car, (Is it the same one??I'm wondering...) They walk past the car, some of the band members glance back at it, we cut away to the girl's car pulling away, cut back to the road, and the car parked on the side just recedes into the background as they keep walking and singing.

If you bring a gun onstage in the first act, you better use it by the third... old theatrical saying. There shouldn't be anything in the frame that YOU DON'T WANT THERE... in narrative filmmaking anyway. Obviously docs and newsgathering don't count.

It might seem like a little deal, but I think it hurt the overall effect of the piece. Had the car been the same one the girl was driving, and it pulled out and either ZOOMED OFF IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION or BOWLED THROUGH THEM, FORCING THEM OFF THE ROAD it would have been a more powerfull statement. Music videos still should have an arc, even if they are mostly montage... just like a song.

Curious, what speed did you choose for the playback while shooting the footage you intended to slow down, and how did you accomplish it?

Sean McHenry · January 6th, 2006, 12:40 AM

I'm curious about the slow motion effect too. I am guessing you could speed up the audio playback so they can sing along to it for timing and then when you slow them both back to standard playback speed, the motion of the people will in fact look slowed down.

Something like that?

Sean McHenry

Daniel Stone · January 13th, 2006, 11:53 PM

Dirty lens, dirty lens! I'm the king of filming something and getting back to editing only to find I have crap all over the lens.

I like it! Love the slow motion thing! Nice job.

Andy Graham · January 14th, 2006, 06:41 AM

yeah i know how you feel with the dirty lense , you keep telling yourself your gonna remember to wipe it next time but you never do, thank god for after effects!. I thought it was good Rafal I wouldn't flick the channel if it came on
good job.

Andy.

Adam Bray · January 26th, 2006, 03:49 PM

Not bad. Should had more of the hot chick. The idea of walking down the street was not bad, but the shakey video and the camera angle seemed off. Also, so did the yard sign and car parked on the side of the road. It would of been bettter if you saw nothing but trees and road.

October 19th, 2005, 09:52 AM	#1
Rafal Krolik Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 160	Music video (XL2) WOW, it's been a while since I posted anything but it has been busy on this end. This might be rushing things a bit since I need to remove the lens dust from it, but here's the latest music video I finished for Eric Stevens. Any comments will be appreciated http://www.sevillemedia.com/ericstev...mewannadie.wmv

December 28th, 2005, 02:33 AM	#2
Ken Beals Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tempe, Az Posts: 172	I like it bro. Since I am a big advocate of stabilized hand held shooting the intro with the girl turning on the TV with the remote was a bit too shaky for my taste. The concept of the lead Singer walking down that long long road and his band mates joining in at staggered intervals worked for me. The crossfades with the closeups were a wee bit annoying would have preferred if you just transitioned to the closeup of the singer then back to the wide shot. Like the song, overall liked it. Did you shoot the guys walking down the long road from a vehicle ? __________________ Mediocrity is a disease...

January 3rd, 2006, 09:58 PM	#4
Giuseppe Palumbo Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 199 Images: 7	Just wondering, but what was the shutter at? cause i dunno if it was the compression but it seemed a little jittery maybe. __________________ AIM - N film B www.nbfilms.us

January 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM	#7
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	I liked it. A lot. Good work I would say. I have seen much less on MTV, back when they actually had music videos on that is. Sean McHenry __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

January 6th, 2006, 12:40 AM	#9
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	I'm curious about the slow motion effect too. I am guessing you could speed up the audio playback so they can sing along to it for timing and then when you slow them both back to standard playback speed, the motion of the people will in fact look slowed down. Something like that? Sean McHenry __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

December 28th, 2005, 08:41 AM	#3
Rafal Krolik Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 160	Hi Ken I'm like you. I love long, steady, panning movements but the band wanted shaky and chaotic so what you is strictly client's request. The walk down the road was indeed shot from the back hatch of a full size van. Using my arms to hold the door together and praying not to fall out, all while screaming at the lead singer to keep the distance since he had a tendency to walk like a slinky. As for the whole concept of transitions while walking, that was done to enhance the visual being in slow motion while the singing was synched at normal speed. Thanks a lot for your feedback

January 4th, 2006, 01:16 AM	#5
Eniola Akintoye Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Duluth GA Posts: 238	Pretty nice to me Rafal, Did you use any adapter for that or was it just color correction? Oh by the way, that song was hot!.

January 4th, 2006, 08:28 AM	#6
Derrick A.Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: St. Petersburg,FL Posts: 94	the video was good. i didnt notice any jitters in that. song was good also. but one question why he always throwing his head back...lol the jitters are from the handheld shots which are usuall when doing hend held when your moving

January 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#8
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	NIce song, I'd listen to it again. Good concept, executed well. BUT - What was with the parked car on the side of the road? I kept waiting for a pay-off. I mean, he's walking down the road, he's being joined by the band members, we're intercutting with the girlfriend, THEY WALK PAST A CAR PARKED HEADED OUT ONTO THE ROAD THEY ARE WALKING DOWN... the girl is loading up a car, (Is it the same one??I'm wondering...) They walk past the car, some of the band members glance back at it, we cut away to the girl's car pulling away, cut back to the road, and the car parked on the side just recedes into the background as they keep walking and singing. If you bring a gun onstage in the first act, you better use it by the third... old theatrical saying. There shouldn't be anything in the frame that YOU DON'T WANT THERE... in narrative filmmaking anyway. Obviously docs and newsgathering don't count. It might seem like a little deal, but I think it hurt the overall effect of the piece. Had the car been the same one the girl was driving, and it pulled out and either ZOOMED OFF IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION or BOWLED THROUGH THEM, FORCING THEM OFF THE ROAD it would have been a more powerfull statement. Music videos still should have an arc, even if they are mostly montage... just like a song. Curious, what speed did you choose for the playback while shooting the footage you intended to slow down, and how did you accomplish it?

January 13th, 2006, 11:53 PM	#10
Daniel Stone Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 84	Dirty lens, dirty lens! I'm the king of filming something and getting back to editing only to find I have crap all over the lens. I like it! Love the slow motion thing! Nice job.

January 14th, 2006, 06:41 AM	#11
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	yeah i know how you feel with the dirty lense , you keep telling yourself your gonna remember to wipe it next time but you never do, thank god for after effects!. I thought it was good Rafal I wouldn't flick the channel if it came on good job. Andy. __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

January 26th, 2006, 03:49 PM	#12
Adam Bray Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 394	Not bad. Should had more of the hot chick. The idea of walking down the street was not bad, but the shakey video and the camera angle seemed off. Also, so did the yard sign and car parked on the side of the road. It would of been bettter if you saw nothing but trees and road.