My First Wedding at DVinfo.net

Jamie Pippin · November 8th, 2010, 11:37 PM

This is the first thing I've ever been paid to film. I had a great time. Shot on a Canon t2i. More info on my gear if you follow the Vimeo link.

Jamie Pippin · November 10th, 2010, 10:48 PM

any comments?

i know some of the 50mm shots were shaky and audio wasn't too good. any more advice on how this could have been better? or what was good about it?

Alan Melville · November 11th, 2010, 05:19 AM

Hi Jamie,

You already know the audio was a bit scratchy, I'm assuming it was shot with an on camera mike. Keep an eye open on the classified of this forum or Ebay and see if you can pick up a better mike.

As you said, you've got some shake in your shots, there's two ways to counter this, 1] practice, practice, practice hand held, if you can master it it'll give you huge freedom. 2] Purchase a Merlin or similar, doesn't need to be new, Ebay or the classified on here will do, then practice, practice,practice....using it.....

Get to know your camera position in relation to the focal length your using, it'll save you chopping off the top of peoples heads!!!!! Maybe tape a couple of pieces of white cotton across the LCD / viewfinder to make up a set of cross hairs, this will give you a reference position and may make it easier to keep the camera steady.

The flowers at 0:50, you need to be very careful of focal shift, use manual focus for these shots.
I'd have left out the take from 1:58 to 2:01, she looks like she's have a Bridezilla moment!!!!!!! lol

Keep at it, your getting paid, more than some others achieve......

Al

Jamie Pippin · November 11th, 2010, 09:49 AM

Thanks for the feedback! It was very helpful and I'll definitely take your advice.

Whoops, that's the second comment about that bridezilla shot :o I didn't notice it while editing...I probably should have left that out, haha.

Thanks again!

Sophie Bucks · December 12th, 2010, 03:57 PM

Hi Jamie

Getting paid to film makes filming a whole lot more fun.

I agree with Alan it is just a matter of practice. Although the couple will not notice if you really get their emotion- I think for weddings its almost the most important factor.- to really get the emotion into the camera close up. - You might want to think about using a paparazzi trick of not actually looking down the lens all the time but to make eye contact while shooting. ie. If you smile, they will often smile back probably thinking you are not shooting, or even thinking about the camera.
There is a little moment at the end of the film with the cake cutting onwards where I think you capture them/their personalities really well.

Anyway I hope that helps, good luck

Jamie Pippin · December 12th, 2010, 04:42 PM

Thanks Sophie, I really appreciate the feedback! Thank you for watching and for the advice.

Taky Cheung · December 14th, 2010, 01:26 AM

The color and shooting angles are great. However, the shakiness is REALLY bad. It makes the piece so amature. Did you not have OIS on or you are using a lens without OIS?

Jamie Pippin · December 14th, 2010, 10:31 AM

most of the shots were with a 50mm because it's the only good low light lens i have, and a 50mm on a cropped sensor camera is equivalent to an 80mm, so it makes it nearly impossible to be steady. there's no form of image stabilization.

Taky Cheung · December 14th, 2010, 10:38 AM

Those shaky scenes were shot during the day. maybe time to invest another lens? =)

Jamie Pippin · December 14th, 2010, 08:34 PM

yes, a new lens is desperately needed!

Taky Cheung · December 14th, 2010, 08:35 PM

I'm using a Sigma 17-50mm F2.8. The zoom range is okay but it did reception low light well.

Jamie Pippin · December 15th, 2010, 04:05 PM

I think I'm going to go with the Tamron 17-50 2.8 with vibration control, because I HATE shaky footage.

Taky Cheung · December 15th, 2010, 04:06 PM

Yeah OIS is important. The Sigma I have also has OIS. I don't like Tamron because the zoom ring and focus ring direction is different than my other Canon lens. I will be all disoriented.

Jamie Pippin · December 15th, 2010, 08:01 PM

Hmm, I might go with the Sigma then. Because I wouldn't like having to focus differently either. I wonder if the OIS on the Sigma is equal to the vibration control on the Tamron.

Taky Cheung · December 15th, 2010, 09:18 PM

VC and OIS are the same thing I would day. They like to use different terms to confuse people =)

November 8th, 2010, 11:37 PM	#1
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	My First Wedding This is the first thing I've ever been paid to film. I had a great time. Shot on a Canon t2i. More info on my gear if you follow the Vimeo link. Patrick and Launa on Vimeo __________________ Vimeo

November 10th, 2010, 10:48 PM	#2
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	any comments? i know some of the 50mm shots were shaky and audio wasn't too good. any more advice on how this could have been better? or what was good about it? __________________ Vimeo

November 11th, 2010, 09:49 AM	#4
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	Thanks for the feedback! It was very helpful and I'll definitely take your advice. Whoops, that's the second comment about that bridezilla shot :o I didn't notice it while editing...I probably should have left that out, haha. Thanks again! __________________ Vimeo

December 12th, 2010, 03:57 PM	#5
Sophie Bucks Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 44	Hi Jamie Getting paid to film makes filming a whole lot more fun. I agree with Alan it is just a matter of practice. Although the couple will not notice if you really get their emotion- I think for weddings its almost the most important factor.- to really get the emotion into the camera close up. - You might want to think about using a paparazzi trick of not actually looking down the lens all the time but to make eye contact while shooting. ie. If you smile, they will often smile back probably thinking you are not shooting, or even thinking about the camera. There is a little moment at the end of the film with the cake cutting onwards where I think you capture them/their personalities really well. Anyway I hope that helps, good luck __________________ Wedding videographer filming modern Wedding video London

December 12th, 2010, 04:42 PM	#6
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	Thanks Sophie, I really appreciate the feedback! Thank you for watching and for the advice. __________________ Vimeo

November 11th, 2010, 05:19 AM	#3
Alan Melville Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: No Fixed Address :) Western Australia Posts: 275	Hi Jamie, You already know the audio was a bit scratchy, I'm assuming it was shot with an on camera mike. Keep an eye open on the classified of this forum or Ebay and see if you can pick up a better mike. As you said, you've got some shake in your shots, there's two ways to counter this, 1] practice, practice, practice hand held, if you can master it it'll give you huge freedom. 2] Purchase a Merlin or similar, doesn't need to be new, Ebay or the classified on here will do, then practice, practice,practice....using it..... Get to know your camera position in relation to the focal length your using, it'll save you chopping off the top of peoples heads!!!!! Maybe tape a couple of pieces of white cotton across the LCD / viewfinder to make up a set of cross hairs, this will give you a reference position and may make it easier to keep the camera steady. The flowers at 0:50, you need to be very careful of focal shift, use manual focus for these shots. I'd have left out the take from 1:58 to 2:01, she looks like she's have a Bridezilla moment!!!!!!! lol Keep at it, your getting paid, more than some others achieve...... Al

December 14th, 2010, 01:26 AM	#7
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	The color and shooting angles are great. However, the shakiness is REALLY bad. It makes the piece so amature. Did you not have OIS on or you are using a lens without OIS? __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

December 14th, 2010, 10:31 AM	#8
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	most of the shots were with a 50mm because it's the only good low light lens i have, and a 50mm on a cropped sensor camera is equivalent to an 80mm, so it makes it nearly impossible to be steady. there's no form of image stabilization. __________________ Vimeo

December 14th, 2010, 10:38 AM	#9
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Those shaky scenes were shot during the day. maybe time to invest another lens? =) __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

December 14th, 2010, 08:34 PM	#10
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	yes, a new lens is desperately needed! __________________ Vimeo

December 14th, 2010, 08:35 PM	#11
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	I'm using a Sigma 17-50mm F2.8. The zoom range is okay but it did reception low light well. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

December 15th, 2010, 04:05 PM	#12
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	I think I'm going to go with the Tamron 17-50 2.8 with vibration control, because I HATE shaky footage. __________________ Vimeo

December 15th, 2010, 04:06 PM	#13
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Yeah OIS is important. The Sigma I have also has OIS. I don't like Tamron because the zoom ring and focus ring direction is different than my other Canon lens. I will be all disoriented. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

December 15th, 2010, 08:01 PM	#14
Jamie Pippin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 98	Hmm, I might go with the Sigma then. Because I wouldn't like having to focus differently either. I wonder if the OIS on the Sigma is equal to the vibration control on the Tamron. __________________ Vimeo

December 15th, 2010, 09:18 PM	#15
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	VC and OIS are the same thing I would day. They like to use different terms to confuse people =) __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator