S.W.A.T. Challenge--set to "300" back ground at DVinfo.net

Martin Wiosna · January 14th, 2010, 10:40 PM

When I shot the footage, I had no intention of making this out of it. Honest feedback is always appreciated.

YouTube - sogtrailer.wmv

David W. Jones · January 22nd, 2010, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Wiosna

Honest feedback is always appreciated.

YouTube - sogtrailer.wmv

In all honesty you are in violation of copyright laws.

Adam Smith · February 6th, 2010, 03:38 PM

I like it. Decent use of the existing soundtrack and audio...nice work.

Copyright, blah blah blah...it's just a video project for his cop buddies.

David W. Jones · February 7th, 2010, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Smith

Copyright, blah blah blah...it's just a video project for his cop buddies.

Which has been posted on the internet where it can be viewed internationally,
not just by his buddies.

Adam, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are very young, and just starting out in the world of video, and have never had any of your footage pirated and used in someones project without your permission "Yet".

Dale Guthormsen · February 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM

Good evening,

Actually, David is right. Nicely done but should be pulled off line and shared with your buds!!!

dale

Scott Hayes · February 9th, 2010, 01:02 PM

i would have left the movie stuff out of it. instead, would have mic'd the s.w.a.t.
commander and used his voice instead. adds to much of a cheese factor

Andy Graham · February 12th, 2010, 07:04 AM

i agree with David, my first thoughts were of the same copyright nature. To use a metaphor related to the video... the warner bros logo is symbol of millions of dollars and a lot of peoples hard work and commands respect, to use it without permission is like someone running around with a cop badge impersonating an officer.

I think you'll find a lot of people on this site with the same respect of copyright. I wanted to use 2 min worth of a stone cold sour track for my showreel, since it was just a showreel and lies in a grey area of fair use i could have just stuck it on there but i chose to email the record company and ask permission....of course they said no which i had expected but it was the right thing to do if you want to be taken seriously by others in the filmmaking community.

Andy.

Martin Wiosna · February 20th, 2010, 12:47 AM

In no way did or do I want to take any credit as this being my work.

It was more of a tribute to the movie 300, since one of the powers that commands me, liked the movie. It was more of a gift to the, than anything else.

I'm only posting online for feedback and select views, and as always constructive feedback and reminders are always welcomed.

Mark Boyer · February 26th, 2010, 10:42 AM

Disney, Warner Brothers and other major studios and companies have attorneys working full time looking for copyright violators. I have run into this at fairs and events where vendors using vinyl sign machines were selling window stickers using copyrighted images. They show up with the local law enforcement and not only put you out of business but they also confiscate all of your equipment.

They will come knocking with pre filled out paper work and take all of your computer and video equipment.

They will not care if this is private or for profit, once you use it you are in violation.

Read Section "B":

P506 Criminal Offenses

(A) Criminal infringement - any person who infringes a copyright willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain shall be punished as provided in section 2319 of Title 18.

(B) Forfeiture and Destruction - When any person is convicted of any violation of subsection (A), the court in its judgment of conviction shall, in addition to the penalty therein prescribed, order the forfeiture and destruction of other disposition of all infringing copies . . . and all implements, devices, all equipment used in the manufacture of such infringing copies.

Now I have your attention... look at this copyright bit of trivia...

Is Singing Happy Birthday in Public Really Copyright Infringement? Yes.

Copyright in the song is owned by Warner Brothers and it continues to be enforced, Warner Brothers collects more than $2 million each year in royalities.

According to United States copyright law in United States Code, Title 17 §106, authors of works such as musical compositions have the exclusive right "to perform the copyrighted work publicly." In United States Code, Title 17 §101, the law defines publicly performing a work as "to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered."

This means that if you sing Happy Birthday to your family at home, you're probably not committing copyright infringment. However, if you do it in an restaurant — and if the restaurant hasn't already worked out a deal with ASCAP — you may be engaging in copyright infringement.

Andy Graham · February 26th, 2010, 07:57 PM

I think this thread has turned into a law lesson, i know the guy that made the video didn't mean anythin by it, lets let it go me thinks

Andy

PS, im sure warrner bros are just livid with copyright rage, afterall the guy is stealling their m....billions

David W. Jones · February 27th, 2010, 05:55 PM

Copyright infringement not only affects billion dollar companies, but also the little guys like you and me. For example... I composed a music package for TV stations to use as news opens / bumps / bills / close / promos. A station which had been a client decided not to renew after a year. No problem, until I found out they continued to use the package for an additional 2 years! I have had out of state ad agencies send copy stating it was for Market X radio only. And then turn around and use the voice track for TV as well, in a larger fringe market. All so they can avoid paying higher talent fees.
This is how I make my house payment, put food on the table, and put my children through school. When you use copyright music and footage without permission it is no different than holding up someone in an ally and taking all the money in their wallet. You are stealing from them!

Mark Boyer · February 27th, 2010, 06:53 PM

Don't assume that being a "little guy" you might somehow will be ignored by the attorneys from the mega companies.

Look at this site: Wild West Page - Web Sheriff - Protection of On Line Copyrights, Trademarks & Brands

January 14th, 2010, 10:40 PM	#1
Martin Wiosna Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: thomaston, ct Posts: 141	S.W.A.T. Challenge--set to "300" back ground When I shot the footage, I had no intention of making this out of it. Honest feedback is always appreciated. YouTube - sogtrailer.wmv

February 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM	#5
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Good evening, Actually, David is right. Nicely done but should be pulled off line and shared with your buds!!! dale __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

February 12th, 2010, 07:04 AM	#7
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	i agree with David, my first thoughts were of the same copyright nature. To use a metaphor related to the video... the warner bros logo is symbol of millions of dollars and a lot of peoples hard work and commands respect, to use it without permission is like someone running around with a cop badge impersonating an officer. I think you'll find a lot of people on this site with the same respect of copyright. I wanted to use 2 min worth of a stone cold sour track for my showreel, since it was just a showreel and lies in a grey area of fair use i could have just stuck it on there but i chose to email the record company and ask permission....of course they said no which i had expected but it was the right thing to do if you want to be taken seriously by others in the filmmaking community. Andy. __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

February 26th, 2010, 10:42 AM	#9
Mark Boyer Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bothell Washington Posts: 174	Serious Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disney, Warner Brothers and other major studios and companies have attorneys working full time looking for copyright violators. I have run into this at fairs and events where vendors using vinyl sign machines were selling window stickers using copyrighted images. They show up with the local law enforcement and not only put you out of business but they also confiscate all of your equipment. They will come knocking with pre filled out paper work and take all of your computer and video equipment. They will not care if this is private or for profit, once you use it you are in violation. Read Section "B": P506 Criminal Offenses (A) Criminal infringement - any person who infringes a copyright willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain shall be punished as provided in section 2319 of Title 18. (B) Forfeiture and Destruction - When any person is convicted of any violation of subsection (A), the court in its judgment of conviction shall, in addition to the penalty therein prescribed, order the forfeiture and destruction of other disposition of all infringing copies . . . and all implements, devices, all equipment used in the manufacture of such infringing copies. Now I have your attention... look at this copyright bit of trivia... Is Singing Happy Birthday in Public Really Copyright Infringement? Yes. Copyright in the song is owned by Warner Brothers and it continues to be enforced, Warner Brothers collects more than $2 million each year in royalities. According to United States copyright law in United States Code, Title 17 §106, authors of works such as musical compositions have the exclusive right "to perform the copyrighted work publicly." In United States Code, Title 17 §101, the law defines publicly performing a work as "to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered." This means that if you sing Happy Birthday to your family at home, you're probably not committing copyright infringment. However, if you do it in an restaurant — and if the restaurant hasn't already worked out a deal with ASCAP — you may be engaging in copyright infringement.

February 26th, 2010, 07:57 PM	#10
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	I think this thread has turned into a law lesson, i know the guy that made the video didn't mean anythin by it, lets let it go me thinks Andy PS, im sure warrner bros are just livid with copyright rage, afterall the guy is stealling their m....billions __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

February 6th, 2010, 03:38 PM	#3
Adam Smith New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 13	I like it. Decent use of the existing soundtrack and audio...nice work. Copyright, blah blah blah...it's just a video project for his cop buddies.

February 9th, 2010, 01:02 PM	#6
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	i would have left the movie stuff out of it. instead, would have mic'd the s.w.a.t. commander and used his voice instead. adds to much of a cheese factor

February 20th, 2010, 12:47 AM	#8
Martin Wiosna Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: thomaston, ct Posts: 141	In no way did or do I want to take any credit as this being my work. It was more of a tribute to the movie 300, since one of the powers that commands me, liked the movie. It was more of a gift to the, than anything else. I'm only posting online for feedback and select views, and as always constructive feedback and reminders are always welcomed.

February 27th, 2010, 05:55 PM	#11
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Copyright infringement not only affects billion dollar companies, but also the little guys like you and me. For example... I composed a music package for TV stations to use as news opens / bumps / bills / close / promos. A station which had been a client decided not to renew after a year. No problem, until I found out they continued to use the package for an additional 2 years! I have had out of state ad agencies send copy stating it was for Market X radio only. And then turn around and use the voice track for TV as well, in a larger fringe market. All so they can avoid paying higher talent fees. This is how I make my house payment, put food on the table, and put my children through school. When you use copyright music and footage without permission it is no different than holding up someone in an ally and taking all the money in their wallet. You are stealing from them! __________________ David W. Jones www.joneshdfilms.com

February 27th, 2010, 06:53 PM	#12
Mark Boyer Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bothell Washington Posts: 174	Don't assume that being a "little guy" you might somehow will be ignored by the attorneys from the mega companies. Look at this site: Wild West Page - Web Sheriff - Protection of On Line Copyrights, Trademarks & Brands