New Music Video shot with XL-1, JVC DV500, Jib & Steadicam at DVinfo.net

James Emory · October 30th, 2002, 06:17 PM

This was shot in 4 hours and was cut by another facility with a box called Applied Magic. A film look was added with this box. The reason frame mode was not used in camera was because the JVC does not have this function and they wanted both cameras to match as close as possible so they processed it all in post.

"Sometimes" - Picnic with Fish

(high speed)
http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/pwf/SOMETIMES300K.asx

(dial up)
http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/pwf/SOMETIMES56K.asx

Barry Goyette · October 30th, 2002, 09:44 PM

James

I'm on a mac using explorer, and all I got when I clicked the links was an empty browser window, I'm not sure what an .asx file is, but is it possible to post in a more cross platform format...quicktime or real?

Barry

Scott Silverman · October 30th, 2002, 10:01 PM

James,
I am on a PC with IE 6 and WM Player 9. Somthing must be wrong with your link because when I click on the link, it says that WMP cannot find the specified file. It might also be a problem with the .asx file like Barry mentioned above. Maybe you could put on a Quicktime or .wmv (Widows Media Video) file. Thanks, looking forward to seeing this!

James Emory · October 30th, 2002, 10:18 PM

I don't know why this happens but sometimes in different areas on select systems, these files do not function properly. I was told this could be because of various reasons such as firewalls or proxy settings, etc.. All of my streaming files are listed on this board and my sites with .asx extensions and many have viewed them successfully. Aren't computers fun? Let me know if this works.

Possible workaround:

Try right clicking on the link, then hit properties, then highlight and copy the URL, then paste in your browser and finally replace the x with an f and hit enter.

Scott Silverman · October 31st, 2002, 12:53 AM

I got it to work. That was a very cool video. You had some great flying shots over the audience. How did you do that? I know you had a jib, but like the crowd was below you so how could you move through the crowd so smoothly? Was the camera on a jib and a dolly at the same time? What jib did you use? What stedicam model did you use? Sorry for all the questions...just thought thoses shots were very cool. Conrats on a great video!

John Locke · October 31st, 2002, 02:12 AM

James,

I'm on a Mac and I was able to view the file...but couldn't hear anything.

Regardless...this is really great work! I enjoyed it even without the sound! If you don't mind my asking, I'm interested in a few things:

What kind of jib did you use?
How many times did you get them to repeat the song for different setups?
What kind of Steadicam were you using?

James Emory · October 31st, 2002, 02:40 AM

The jib is a Jib Lite from Stanton Video or Jimmy Jib designed for systems 15 lbs and below, DV.

Pictures
http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...CONFIGURATIONS

To see it in more detailed action go here and look under Special Events:

http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...TS_MUSICVIDEOS

The Steadicam is another brand almost identical to the mini with the vest and arm. It was used for all ground tracking and approach shots in front of the stage and behind the audience. The JVC was handheld for close-ups. The jib was on a dolly but just for mobility for itself. We probably did 10-15 complete takes and about 5 shorts for detail.

John Locke · October 31st, 2002, 04:07 AM

Thanks for the details, James. I took a look at your other videos, sans sound, and I'm very impressed.

I've never seen the Jimmy Jib and their brand of steadicam before. Interesting. The steadicam is definitely in a better price range than most.

Joe Carney · November 1st, 2002, 03:01 PM

James, which camera was making everyone/thing look green? Or was that on purpose?

James Emory · November 1st, 2002, 05:54 PM

That was apparently one of the early takes before we did reverse angles of the crowd using 32K. As you can see we stuck with 32K for the rest of the shoot. This was VERY low budget with favors being returned. The green look is the lighting from the multi-color stage light trees that you occassionally see. So this is a continuity issue with matching the shots' lighting. We just didn't have the time for an on set video review. Remember this was shot in 4 hours because they had to be out of the building by a certain time. Much more shooting was necessary for adequate coverage but we just didn't have the time. I'll admit it's easy to pick something apart after it's done but overall it turned out alright.

Joe Carney · November 1st, 2002, 06:40 PM

wasn't picking it apart, just wondering if the cameras were causing problems.

James Emory · November 1st, 2002, 06:50 PM

I know you weren't hacking on me. That was just a general statement. I think we are all critical of our work after the fact. We could or should have done this or that. You know what I mean? I think the cameras just had a hard time balancing on those colors, especially without any white light present. We balanced after every take though. I suppose black & white would have been a good cover for those shots but I didn't cut it. See, there I go again.

Joe Carney · November 1st, 2002, 07:46 PM

>>shots but I didn't cut it. See, there I go again.
<<
Ah, the loss of control. What a bummer. I'm just excited to see some stuff like this being done with affordable DV cameras.

October 30th, 2002, 06:17 PM	#1
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	New Music Video shot with XL-1, JVC DV500, Jib & Steadicam This was shot in 4 hours and was cut by another facility with a box called Applied Magic. A film look was added with this box. The reason frame mode was not used in camera was because the JVC does not have this function and they wanted both cameras to match as close as possible so they processed it all in post. "Sometimes" - Picnic with Fish (high speed) http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/pwf/SOMETIMES300K.asx (dial up) http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/pwf/SOMETIMES56K.asx

October 30th, 2002, 10:01 PM	#3
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	James, I am on a PC with IE 6 and WM Player 9. Somthing must be wrong with your link because when I click on the link, it says that WMP cannot find the specified file. It might also be a problem with the .asx file like Barry mentioned above. Maybe you could put on a Quicktime or .wmv (Widows Media Video) file. Thanks, looking forward to seeing this! __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

October 30th, 2002, 10:18 PM	#4
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Viewing problems - possible workaround I don't know why this happens but sometimes in different areas on select systems, these files do not function properly. I was told this could be because of various reasons such as firewalls or proxy settings, etc.. All of my streaming files are listed on this board and my sites with .asx extensions and many have viewed them successfully. Aren't computers fun? Let me know if this works. Possible workaround: Try right clicking on the link, then hit properties, then highlight and copy the URL, then paste in your browser and finally replace the x with an f and hit enter.

October 31st, 2002, 12:53 AM	#5
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	I got it to work. That was a very cool video. You had some great flying shots over the audience. How did you do that? I know you had a jib, but like the crowd was below you so how could you move through the crowd so smoothly? Was the camera on a jib and a dolly at the same time? What jib did you use? What stedicam model did you use? Sorry for all the questions...just thought thoses shots were very cool. Conrats on a great video! __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

October 31st, 2002, 02:12 AM	#6
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	James, I'm on a Mac and I was able to view the file...but couldn't hear anything. Regardless...this is really great work! I enjoyed it even without the sound! If you don't mind my asking, I'm interested in a few things: What kind of jib did you use? How many times did you get them to repeat the song for different setups? What kind of Steadicam were you using? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

October 30th, 2002, 09:44 PM	#2
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	James I'm on a mac using explorer, and all I got when I clicked the links was an empty browser window, I'm not sure what an .asx file is, but is it possible to post in a more cross platform format...quicktime or real? Barry

October 31st, 2002, 02:40 AM	#7
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Production Gear The jib is a Jib Lite from Stanton Video or Jimmy Jib designed for systems 15 lbs and below, DV. Pictures http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...CONFIGURATIONS To see it in more detailed action go here and look under Special Events: http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...TS_MUSICVIDEOS The Steadicam is another brand almost identical to the mini with the vest and arm. It was used for all ground tracking and approach shots in front of the stage and behind the audience. The JVC was handheld for close-ups. The jib was on a dolly but just for mobility for itself. We probably did 10-15 complete takes and about 5 shorts for detail.

October 31st, 2002, 04:07 AM	#8
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Thanks for the details, James. I took a look at your other videos, sans sound, and I'm very impressed. I've never seen the Jimmy Jib and their brand of steadicam before. Interesting. The steadicam is definitely in a better price range than most. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

November 1st, 2002, 03:01 PM	#9
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	James, which camera was making everyone/thing look green? Or was that on purpose?

November 1st, 2002, 05:54 PM	#10
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Lighting That was apparently one of the early takes before we did reverse angles of the crowd using 32K. As you can see we stuck with 32K for the rest of the shoot. This was VERY low budget with favors being returned. The green look is the lighting from the multi-color stage light trees that you occassionally see. So this is a continuity issue with matching the shots' lighting. We just didn't have the time for an on set video review. Remember this was shot in 4 hours because they had to be out of the building by a certain time. Much more shooting was necessary for adequate coverage but we just didn't have the time. I'll admit it's easy to pick something apart after it's done but overall it turned out alright.

November 1st, 2002, 06:40 PM	#11
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	wasn't picking it apart, just wondering if the cameras were causing problems.

November 1st, 2002, 06:50 PM	#12
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Lighting I know you weren't hacking on me. That was just a general statement. I think we are all critical of our work after the fact. We could or should have done this or that. You know what I mean? I think the cameras just had a hard time balancing on those colors, especially without any white light present. We balanced after every take though. I suppose black & white would have been a good cover for those shots but I didn't cut it. See, there I go again.

November 1st, 2002, 07:46 PM	#13
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	>>shots but I didn't cut it. See, there I go again. << Ah, the loss of control. What a bummer. I'm just excited to see some stuff like this being done with affordable DV cameras.