short movie done in 3 days..

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 02:40 PM

dstinson,

Which particular aspects were you interested in hearing about in regard to making it?

kermie

October 24th, 2002, 07:50 PM

Since I've never done a real movie before I personally would be interested in any of the following:

Did anyone else help you shoot?
Did you have to get any permits?
Did you get a lot of looks when you were filming as people were passing by?
Did you have to use any special lighting or filters?
How many total minutes of DV did you take to make a ~7 minute movie?
Exactly what did you do aside from shoot and edit? It sounds like you found the music guy, who did a DAMN good job. Did you have to find the actors too?
Did the director tell you where and what to shoot or did you mostly come up with it?
What exactly did the director do? Did he have a storyboard of how he wanted the shots layed out?
How many hours total do you think it took to do the editing?

Thanks!!!

I hope more people post their work.

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 08:09 PM

**Since I've never done a real movie before I personally would be interested in any of the following:

Did anyone else help you shoot?**

I had a person holding the boom and clapping the clapper :)
The director did nothing.

**Did you have to get any permits?**
nope :) just went very early to shoot

**Did you get a lot of looks when you were filming as people were passing by?**

the occasional person would look, one even went right into shot and stared down the camera. Quite a few times the police the rolled past, took a slow look then drove off, didn't really care.

**Did you have to use any special lighting or filters?**

No filters were used.

The very first scene used 2 redheads spilling off the roof to give a little light back in, as it was a strong white backlight comming from outside. The final shot was one desklamp with a photo bulb in my bathroom with black sheets around the walls.

**How many total minutes of DV did you take to make a ~7 minute movie?**

ummm around 2.5 hours was shot, around 15 minutes was captured onto the comp, 7.5 minutes it ended up being.

**Exactly what did you do aside from shoot and edit? It sounds like you found the music guy, who did a DAMN good job. Did you have to find the actors too?**

Found the music guy. was an old friend of mine. I found Ben and biffy who played the 2 mains, Josh the street kid theif was found by the producer, the hood with the gun was the director, the cops were the producer and the guy who did the music. The other hood in 1 scene was a friend of the director.

I shot, edited, mixed sound, script edited, scouted locations with the producer and did all the other post work too.

**Did the director tell you where and what to shoot or did you mostly come up with it?**

he said nothing, he was terrible to work with.

**What exactly did the director do? Did he have a storyboard of how he wanted the shots layed out?**

He wrote the script and got us together to do it.
He drew some story boards, then forgot them at home, then stood there not knowing what to do, wasting time after he had come late.

**How many hours total do you think it took to do the editing?**
around 20 hours, 6 hours of it was wasted as premiere bit the bullet and a total restart was done in vegas video.

**Thanks!!!**
no probs.

**I hope more people post their work.**
me too

ps. read back i put a huge post up about a lot of things i encountered along the way.

Christian Calson · November 7th, 2002, 04:56 AM

hi kermie-

despite all your upfront complaints about the production, it looks great. you did a killer job man. good going.

christian
nebunule films llc
los angeles, ca

Zac Stein · November 7th, 2002, 04:58 AM

Thanx dude,

I have got over it now, but it was a real emotional drainer to get it done.

kermie

John Locke · November 7th, 2002, 06:12 AM

Kermie,

I finally got around to downloading DivX and was able to see your film. For some reason the audio drifted quite a bit...up to a 2 second lag of video behind the audio...but I was still able to view it and follow it.

Anyway...great job! What a feeling of accomplishment to crank something like this out in 3 days. There's a lot more I'd like to say...but it would just be repeating what's already been said...the positive comments at least.

Looking forward to your next one!

Zac Stein · November 7th, 2002, 06:16 AM

John Locke,

I'll do a trade with you, i will sit down in a live chat with you and discuss everything i have gone through with making movies and give you all the hints from film school, if you will help me make my site look as sexy as yours heh heh

anyways, that is serious, email me.

kermie

Adrian van der Park · November 7th, 2002, 06:47 AM

Nice work, and impressive given the time frame from start to finish.

Not without flaws (I agree that the video toaster ripples have got to go), but I like the montage and the alleypunk sneak at the beginning. Also most of the clips are very professionally shot.
You should be proud.

Look forward to more work from you.

Adrian

Zac Stein · November 7th, 2002, 06:52 AM

Wow,

Thanx so much guys! this is so inspiring! And this only goes to the arguement about shooter over camera. This was mostly done on a single chip panasonic mx-3.

Thanks everybody for your positive comments.

kermie

November 7th, 2002, 04:56 AM	#19
Christian Calson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 65	nicely done hi kermie- despite all your upfront complaints about the production, it looks great. you did a killer job man. good going. christian nebunule films llc los angeles, ca

November 7th, 2002, 06:12 AM	#21
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Kermie, I finally got around to downloading DivX and was able to see your film. For some reason the audio drifted quite a bit...up to a 2 second lag of video behind the audio...but I was still able to view it and follow it. Anyway...great job! What a feeling of accomplishment to crank something like this out in 3 days. There's a lot more I'd like to say...but it would just be repeating what's already been said...the positive comments at least. Looking forward to your next one! __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

November 7th, 2002, 06:47 AM	#23
Adrian van der Park Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 87	Nice work, and impressive given the time frame from start to finish. Not without flaws (I agree that the video toaster ripples have got to go), but I like the montage and the alleypunk sneak at the beginning. Also most of the clips are very professionally shot. You should be proud. Look forward to more work from you. Adrian __________________ Adrian van der Park VFX modeler London, England

October 24th, 2002, 02:40 PM	#16
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	dstinson, Which particular aspects were you interested in hearing about in regard to making it? kermie

October 24th, 2002, 07:50 PM	#17
dstinson Posts: n/a	Since I've never done a real movie before I personally would be interested in any of the following: Did anyone else help you shoot? Did you have to get any permits? Did you get a lot of looks when you were filming as people were passing by? Did you have to use any special lighting or filters? How many total minutes of DV did you take to make a ~7 minute movie? Exactly what did you do aside from shoot and edit? It sounds like you found the music guy, who did a DAMN good job. Did you have to find the actors too? Did the director tell you where and what to shoot or did you mostly come up with it? What exactly did the director do? Did he have a storyboard of how he wanted the shots layed out? How many hours total do you think it took to do the editing? Thanks!!! I hope more people post their work.

October 24th, 2002, 08:09 PM	#18
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Since I've never done a real movie before I personally would be interested in any of the following: Did anyone else help you shoot? I had a person holding the boom and clapping the clapper :) The director did nothing. Did you have to get any permits? nope :) just went very early to shoot Did you get a lot of looks when you were filming as people were passing by? the occasional person would look, one even went right into shot and stared down the camera. Quite a few times the police the rolled past, took a slow look then drove off, didn't really care. Did you have to use any special lighting or filters? No filters were used. The very first scene used 2 redheads spilling off the roof to give a little light back in, as it was a strong white backlight comming from outside. The final shot was one desklamp with a photo bulb in my bathroom with black sheets around the walls. How many total minutes of DV did you take to make a ~7 minute movie? ummm around 2.5 hours was shot, around 15 minutes was captured onto the comp, 7.5 minutes it ended up being. Exactly what did you do aside from shoot and edit? It sounds like you found the music guy, who did a DAMN good job. Did you have to find the actors too? Found the music guy. was an old friend of mine. I found Ben and biffy who played the 2 mains, Josh the street kid theif was found by the producer, the hood with the gun was the director, the cops were the producer and the guy who did the music. The other hood in 1 scene was a friend of the director. I shot, edited, mixed sound, script edited, scouted locations with the producer and did all the other post work too. Did the director tell you where and what to shoot or did you mostly come up with it? he said nothing, he was terrible to work with. What exactly did the director do? Did he have a storyboard of how he wanted the shots layed out? He wrote the script and got us together to do it. He drew some story boards, then forgot them at home, then stood there not knowing what to do, wasting time after he had come late. How many hours total do you think it took to do the editing? around 20 hours, 6 hours of it was wasted as premiere bit the bullet and a total restart was done in vegas video. Thanks!!! no probs. I hope more people post their work. me too ps. read back i put a huge post up about a lot of things i encountered along the way.

November 7th, 2002, 04:58 AM	#20
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Thanx dude, I have got over it now, but it was a real emotional drainer to get it done. kermie

November 7th, 2002, 06:16 AM	#22
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	John Locke, I'll do a trade with you, i will sit down in a live chat with you and discuss everything i have gone through with making movies and give you all the hints from film school, if you will help me make my site look as sexy as yours heh heh anyways, that is serious, email me. kermie

November 7th, 2002, 06:52 AM	#24
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Wow, Thanx so much guys! this is so inspiring! And this only goes to the arguement about shooter over camera. This was mostly done on a single chip panasonic mx-3. Thanks everybody for your positive comments. kermie