Click here to view Music Video shot with XL-1, Jib, and Steadicam at DVinfo.net

James Emory · September 11th, 2002, 08:41 PM

Below is a music video shot with an XL-1 with the 3:1 lens in frame mode. This was shot in 2 days with 3 locations and a crew of 3. It was cut with Premiere. Enjoy!!

Music Video - Say!

(high speed)
http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/say2/SAY300K2.asx

(dial up)
http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/say2/SAY56K2.asx

Rob Lohman · September 12th, 2002, 08:08 AM

Can you please put a downloadable version up? I cannot watch
streaming stuff here at work and at home I do not have a
broadband connection. Thanks.

Aaron Nanto · September 18th, 2002, 03:35 PM

Neither link works...looks to be broken...

Aaron Koolen · September 18th, 2002, 04:46 PM

If you use a PC and Download Accelerator, then it will download the whole thing to disk for you.

James Emory · September 18th, 2002, 05:07 PM

Are the folks that are having trouble viewing these links cutting and pasting them into your browsers? Some Mac users experience difficulties with the Windows Media player. Let me know what you're doing. These links are valid!

James Emory · September 18th, 2002, 05:12 PM

I do not think that you can download streaming media to a hard disk. From what I understand, streaming media is a progressive temporary download to your cache that is terminated when the file is completed. If anyone is able to do it please let me know about it. Thanks.

Aaron Koolen · September 18th, 2002, 08:24 PM

James, I have both the the full files on my hard drive at this very moment. I use a PC, and have Download Accelerator installed. I just enter the URL into internet explorer, and Download Accelerator simply starts downloading the .asf file for me (Yes .asf, not asx as the real full version is called filename.asf)
IE pops up with an error saying it can't open the file, and it has the little opening media player in the left hand pane but DA just preempts it and downloads the whole thing.

Good luck!

Cheers
Aaron

Keith Luken · September 24th, 2002, 10:50 AM

As a newbie I am extremely impressed and hope to someday create somehting a fraction as good as your video. Some stupid questions I have. You say done with Premiere. Did you need any add-ins to do anything, does Pemire allow for the 3-way split screen witht he 3 additiona source videos? Can you tell me what your use to render your outputs?

Jay Gladwell · September 24th, 2002, 12:46 PM

The video streamed just fine for me--no problems.

My only comment/question would be: Was that a red shirt sleeve flapping on the right edge of the frame in the shots of the group walking down the alley?

James Emory · September 24th, 2002, 02:06 PM

This video was cut with Premiere 5.1c RT straight out of the box using all stock filters. The multiple screens are just 3 layers of video using the motion filter zoom and then placing the reduced pictures in their desired positions as well as applying the rotation within the same filter. I must say that my system is very high end and is built strictly for fast/efficient post production so I have a bit of an advantage with speed and accuracy over a typical off the shelf box. As far as software, again, it's the same as anyone else has. It WILL take time to learn alot of these tricks and workarounds of this software. For its value and level, Premiere can do some amazing things. If you want to see other uses of Premiere with heavy effects and graphics hit the link below and view both of the Expo spots. That was fun to do and took a while to compose but, the knowledge I have now is invaluable. The big screen monitors that you will see don't exist. They were created with Premiere and a bundled version of Inscriber CG.

Link

http://community.webtv.net/JEFCom/COMMERCIALS

James Emory · September 24th, 2002, 02:13 PM

Yes this was a p.a. holding a bounce board for light. I have since found that the stock viewfinder underscans therefore not giving a true frame reference so I didn't see it while shooting. In addition I was using the 3:1 lens which widened the perspective even further. I did see it in post but was rushed for the cut and it slipped through. I will have to fix it with a simple zoom in to crop it out. It makes me ill every time I see it. You got me!!

Jay Gladwell · September 24th, 2002, 02:52 PM

James, I wasn't trying to get you, honestly. The reason I asked was because I've experienced the same problem--the viewfinder showing less than camera's recording. Very frustrating!

As a result of this, I now use a monitor and still I move a tad tighter, just for good measure.

Keith Luken · September 24th, 2002, 03:21 PM

Jeff,

Thanks for the info. I built a high end (back in March) system with P4 2.2GHz system, 1GB RDRAM, 2 x 40GB RAID 0 for OS, 2 x 80GB RAID 0 for capture, and 2 x 80GB RAID 1 for edit/render and have been getting started. I alwasy jump in neck deep, don't beleive in wasting too much playing at the bottom end, so plan on moving up to the higher mid-level that Premiere seems to fit. Been getting used to the GL2 and stocking up on some minor accessories. Will add to the list as I go and have my first (gratis) job, a friends wedding next month so we'll see how it goes.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · September 24th, 2002, 11:07 PM

<joke mode>
Was that a music video or a Tae Bo video?
</joke mode>

Congrats for creative use of the pinch filter, looked really good.

September 11th, 2002, 08:41 PM	#1
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Click here to view Music Video shot with XL-1, Jib, and Steadicam Below is a music video shot with an XL-1 with the 3:1 lens in frame mode. This was shot in 2 days with 3 locations and a crew of 3. It was cut with Premiere. Enjoy!! Music Video - Say! (high speed) http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/say2/SAY300K2.asx (dial up) http://198.65.158.133/musicvideos/say2/SAY56K2.asx

September 12th, 2002, 08:08 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Can you please put a downloadable version up? I cannot watch streaming stuff here at work and at home I do not have a broadband connection. Thanks. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 18th, 2002, 03:35 PM	#3
Aaron Nanto Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 46	Neither link works...looks to be broken... __________________ Aaron Nanto \| Photo+Cinema www.aaronnanto.com

September 18th, 2002, 05:07 PM	#5
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Streaming Links Are the folks that are having trouble viewing these links cutting and pasting them into your browsers? Some Mac users experience difficulties with the Windows Media player. Let me know what you're doing. These links are valid!

September 18th, 2002, 05:12 PM	#6
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Downloading Streaming Media I do not think that you can download streaming media to a hard disk. From what I understand, streaming media is a progressive temporary download to your cache that is terminated when the file is completed. If anyone is able to do it please let me know about it. Thanks.

September 18th, 2002, 04:46 PM	#4
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	If you use a PC and Download Accelerator, then it will download the whole thing to disk for you.

September 18th, 2002, 08:24 PM	#7
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	James, I have both the the full files on my hard drive at this very moment. I use a PC, and have Download Accelerator installed. I just enter the URL into internet explorer, and Download Accelerator simply starts downloading the .asf file for me (Yes .asf, not asx as the real full version is called filename.asf) IE pops up with an error saying it can't open the file, and it has the little opening media player in the left hand pane but DA just preempts it and downloads the whole thing. Good luck! Cheers Aaron

September 24th, 2002, 10:50 AM	#8
Keith Luken Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 200	As a newbie I am extremely impressed and hope to someday create somehting a fraction as good as your video. Some stupid questions I have. You say done with Premiere. Did you need any add-ins to do anything, does Pemire allow for the 3-way split screen witht he 3 additiona source videos? Can you tell me what your use to render your outputs?

September 24th, 2002, 12:46 PM	#9
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	The video streamed just fine for me--no problems. My only comment/question would be: Was that a red shirt sleeve flapping on the right edge of the frame in the shots of the group walking down the alley?

September 24th, 2002, 02:06 PM	#10
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Cutting with Premiere This video was cut with Premiere 5.1c RT straight out of the box using all stock filters. The multiple screens are just 3 layers of video using the motion filter zoom and then placing the reduced pictures in their desired positions as well as applying the rotation within the same filter. I must say that my system is very high end and is built strictly for fast/efficient post production so I have a bit of an advantage with speed and accuracy over a typical off the shelf box. As far as software, again, it's the same as anyone else has. It WILL take time to learn alot of these tricks and workarounds of this software. For its value and level, Premiere can do some amazing things. If you want to see other uses of Premiere with heavy effects and graphics hit the link below and view both of the Expo spots. That was fun to do and took a while to compose but, the knowledge I have now is invaluable. The big screen monitors that you will see don't exist. They were created with Premiere and a bundled version of Inscriber CG. Link http://community.webtv.net/JEFCom/COMMERCIALS

September 24th, 2002, 02:13 PM	#11
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Object in frame Yes this was a p.a. holding a bounce board for light. I have since found that the stock viewfinder underscans therefore not giving a true frame reference so I didn't see it while shooting. In addition I was using the 3:1 lens which widened the perspective even further. I did see it in post but was rushed for the cut and it slipped through. I will have to fix it with a simple zoom in to crop it out. It makes me ill every time I see it. You got me!!

September 24th, 2002, 02:52 PM	#12
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	James, I wasn't trying to get you, honestly. The reason I asked was because I've experienced the same problem--the viewfinder showing less than camera's recording. Very frustrating! As a result of this, I now use a monitor and still I move a tad tighter, just for good measure.

September 24th, 2002, 03:21 PM	#13
Keith Luken Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 200	Jeff, Thanks for the info. I built a high end (back in March) system with P4 2.2GHz system, 1GB RDRAM, 2 x 40GB RAID 0 for OS, 2 x 80GB RAID 0 for capture, and 2 x 80GB RAID 1 for edit/render and have been getting started. I alwasy jump in neck deep, don't beleive in wasting too much playing at the bottom end, so plan on moving up to the higher mid-level that Premiere seems to fit. Been getting used to the GL2 and stocking up on some minor accessories. Will add to the list as I go and have my first (gratis) job, a friends wedding next month so we'll see how it goes.

September 24th, 2002, 11:07 PM	#14
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	<joke mode> Was that a music video or a Tae Bo video? </joke mode> Congrats for creative use of the pinch filter, looked really good. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors