Show Your Work 2005

Kawai Sin · November 19th, 2005, 07:21 PM

"The Portait" All shot with ZR40 - Horror

Hi all,

I just wanted to post up my latest work which I shot with a Canon ZR40. The only other things we used were some florescent lights and foam boards. Everything is else we improvised, trying to work with a shoe string budget. I found a composer from Craigslist who also did the voice over.

22mb Streaming .MOV
http://www.rollingedit.com/final_episode.htm

Comments are welcome, let me know what you think. Thanks.

Josh Herrlich · November 20th, 2005, 07:26 AM

Hey guys,

this is my first post here, so before posting the vid I made last week, i would like to tell you something about me. My name is Josh, I am from Duesseldorf, Germany, I am 17 and I love the whole process of making movies like the most of you guys I think.

For a schoolband I had to make a music video the last three days, including cutting from 0000 to 0900 last night. I hope that was it worth. We had no budget, no big plan, the guys did never stand in front of a camera before. It was really guerilla filmmaking. So here is the flick, I would really like to get some replies. Whatever good or bad.

http://www.tushilden-basketball.de/Blick_ins_licht.mov

P.S. please do not criticise the music, criticise the pictures!

Josh Herrlich · November 22nd, 2005, 10:37 AM

I can't edit my post, can I? So here is the new link: http://reflect-artworks.de.vu//proje...icht_video.php

I would be very happy if someone would reply!

Steve Law · November 22nd, 2005, 12:11 PM

well done!
i like it. so tell us, what equipment did you use?

Eric Elliott · November 22nd, 2005, 03:00 PM

Ausgezeichnet! Good composition and nice cutting. The only suggestion I have would be to get the camera moving more. Some of the shots are a bit too static for the high-energy feel of the band. But, overall, it's a good piece of work. Congratulations!

Josh Herrlich · November 22nd, 2005, 03:45 PM

thanks for the replies, guys. Yeah, it's a bit static, but I was afraid of getting too unsteady shots... Maybe I should have tried it more often to get a good moving shot. Next time ;)

I shot it with a XL1... No S or anything. Most of the time I used the 3x Wideangle lense... Or the normal 16x. I shot in the 16:9 modus.

Andy Peterson · November 23rd, 2005, 10:08 AM

Hey guys,

Here is trailor to a short film we just finished.
Give it a couple minutes to download completely before playing.

Shot on an FX1.

http://www.pjrules.com/matt/cheated%20trailer1.avi

Let me know what you think!

-Andy

Graham Clark · November 24th, 2005, 12:00 AM

Well done. That is a lot of work for 3 days. I like a lot of the camera work, more the outdoor stuff. I'd suggest not repeating elements, it looks like you ran out of choices, which may be the case. Also, if possible in the future try using 2 cameras. One close, one wide, or one still and the other moving, or what ever. It gives you way more choices of clips for the same amount of time shooting.

Keep up the good work.

Wayne Kinney · November 25th, 2005, 08:50 AM

Hello,
Was just browsing through some of my old university work (i did a Computer Animation course) and thought i would post 3 of them for the fun of it.

Final Project done in Softimage XSI:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...nalproject.htm

Character Animation module done in Softimage XSI:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...ranimation.htm

And some early work from my first year done in 3DS MAX:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...themilkman.htm

Enjoy

Ash Greyson · November 26th, 2005, 12:40 AM

Your framing of the story parts is excellent. Nice shots, telling the story in the cut with a good eye for what is naturally cinematic. The band performance stuff is not dynamic enough, more moves, more angles, WAY more tight shots. That is the easy stuff and you can learn it with practice, the thing that you cant "learn" is a natural ability to see the shot and that you seem to have...

ash =o)

Ash Greyson · November 26th, 2005, 12:56 AM

If you are going to have a slow moving trailer with no talking, voice over, etc. you better have some big dynamic cinematic shots packed with emotion. Dont think you got there. Showing people's lips moving without hearing what they are saying is almost always a mistake, in film school they called it "lip flap."

If I am being brutal, there was not much that worked with this trailer. If you are going to go with a score like that, the visuals much match oe else your production value sticks out like a sore thumb. Try going with another piece of music and splicing in some good performances of the actors, the words alone are not enough, maybe try some slow motion.

A trailer does not always have to clearly identify the story but it ALWAYS has to make you want to watch the movie. For indie film makers it is a real struggle because you dont have access to big name actors, a huge crew, etc. but you still have to find something compelling and the trailer as it stands now doesnt have anything that would compel people to want to see the film...

ash =o)

Mathieu Ghekiere · November 26th, 2005, 06:53 AM

I thought the trailer wasn't that bad.
I didn't mind not hearing what they said, I rather had the feeling of: now I know they will argue, and if I see the movie I'll know what about.

Andy Peterson · November 26th, 2005, 03:24 PM

Hey Ash,

Thanks for the post.
We are a bunch of TV Broadcasting students with no proper 'film' training. This was a fun project to work on.

This isn't a simple relationship movie. There is a HUGE twist that we tried to hint at in the trailer to intice people to watch. Did that not come through?

I have passed your recomendations along to the editor.

Thanks!

...Andy

Paul R Johnson · November 26th, 2005, 03:43 PM

Most contemporary trailers feature the best bits of the product. Most are fast and pacey - the slower, gentler style works if there are things to look at apart from the obvious. As an example the girl on the phone, upset. Why not take a much smaller chunk and slo-mo it showing the facial expression of sadness. One question - why black and white? It has the 'look' of tv, not film, in shooting and framing - so the b&w is an oddity. The other thing in a short trailer like this is that far too much time is spent on black & titles - waste of time, in my view.

The test I always use is "do I want to watch this?" and I'm sorry to say the answer, for me, would be no.

Leigh Wanstead · November 26th, 2005, 08:53 PM

http://www.salenz.com/movie/www.sale...2005.11.27.mpg

Can be played by software dvd player i.e. powerdvd, Microsoft Media player etc.

File size around 80mb.

Regards
Leigh

November 19th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#841
Kawai Sin New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Zoo York Posts: 20	Show Your Work 2006 "The Portait" All shot with ZR40 - Horror Hi all, I just wanted to post up my latest work which I shot with a Canon ZR40. The only other things we used were some florescent lights and foam boards. Everything is else we improvised, trying to work with a shoe string budget. I found a composer from Craigslist who also did the voice over. 22mb Streaming .MOV http://www.rollingedit.com/final_episode.htm Comments are welcome, let me know what you think. Thanks. __________________ Kawai Sin www.rollingedit.com

November 20th, 2005, 07:26 AM	#842
Josh Herrlich Tourist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	New Music Video Hey guys, this is my first post here, so before posting the vid I made last week, i would like to tell you something about me. My name is Josh, I am from Duesseldorf, Germany, I am 17 and I love the whole process of making movies like the most of you guys I think. For a schoolband I had to make a music video the last three days, including cutting from 0000 to 0900 last night. I hope that was it worth. We had no budget, no big plan, the guys did never stand in front of a camera before. It was really guerilla filmmaking. So here is the flick, I would really like to get some replies. Whatever good or bad. http://www.tushilden-basketball.de/Blick_ins_licht.mov P.S. please do not criticise the music, criticise the pictures!

November 23rd, 2005, 10:08 AM	#847
Andy Peterson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Huntsville, Ontario Posts: 62	Cheated Hey guys, Here is trailor to a short film we just finished. Give it a couple minutes to download completely before playing. Shot on an FX1. http://www.pjrules.com/matt/cheated%20trailer1.avi Let me know what you think! -Andy

November 24th, 2005, 12:00 AM	#848
Graham Clark New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 12	Well done. That is a lot of work for 3 days. I like a lot of the camera work, more the outdoor stuff. I'd suggest not repeating elements, it looks like you ran out of choices, which may be the case. Also, if possible in the future try using 2 cameras. One close, one wide, or one still and the other moving, or what ever. It gives you way more choices of clips for the same amount of time shooting. Keep up the good work. __________________ Cheers, Graham

November 25th, 2005, 08:50 AM	#849
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Just some of my 3D animations for everyone to laugh at Hello, Was just browsing through some of my old university work (i did a Computer Animation course) and thought i would post 3 of them for the fun of it. Final Project done in Softimage XSI: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...nalproject.htm Character Animation module done in Softimage XSI: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...ranimation.htm And some early work from my first year done in 3DS MAX: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...themilkman.htm Enjoy __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

November 22nd, 2005, 10:37 AM	#843
Josh Herrlich Tourist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	I can't edit my post, can I? So here is the new link: http://reflect-artworks.de.vu//proje...icht_video.php I would be very happy if someone would reply!

November 22nd, 2005, 12:11 PM	#844
Steve Law Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 29	well done! i like it. so tell us, what equipment did you use?

November 22nd, 2005, 03:00 PM	#845
Eric Elliott Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: O'Neals, CA Posts: 71	Ausgezeichnet! Good composition and nice cutting. The only suggestion I have would be to get the camera moving more. Some of the shots are a bit too static for the high-energy feel of the band. But, overall, it's a good piece of work. Congratulations!

November 22nd, 2005, 03:45 PM	#846
Josh Herrlich Tourist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	thanks for the replies, guys. Yeah, it's a bit static, but I was afraid of getting too unsteady shots... Maybe I should have tried it more often to get a good moving shot. Next time ;) I shot it with a XL1... No S or anything. Most of the time I used the 3x Wideangle lense... Or the normal 16x. I shot in the 16:9 modus.

November 26th, 2005, 12:40 AM	#850
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Your framing of the story parts is excellent. Nice shots, telling the story in the cut with a good eye for what is naturally cinematic. The band performance stuff is not dynamic enough, more moves, more angles, WAY more tight shots. That is the easy stuff and you can learn it with practice, the thing that you cant "learn" is a natural ability to see the shot and that you seem to have... ash =o)

November 26th, 2005, 12:56 AM	#851
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	If you are going to have a slow moving trailer with no talking, voice over, etc. you better have some big dynamic cinematic shots packed with emotion. Dont think you got there. Showing people's lips moving without hearing what they are saying is almost always a mistake, in film school they called it "lip flap." If I am being brutal, there was not much that worked with this trailer. If you are going to go with a score like that, the visuals much match oe else your production value sticks out like a sore thumb. Try going with another piece of music and splicing in some good performances of the actors, the words alone are not enough, maybe try some slow motion. A trailer does not always have to clearly identify the story but it ALWAYS has to make you want to watch the movie. For indie film makers it is a real struggle because you dont have access to big name actors, a huge crew, etc. but you still have to find something compelling and the trailer as it stands now doesnt have anything that would compel people to want to see the film... ash =o)

November 26th, 2005, 06:53 AM	#852
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I thought the trailer wasn't that bad. I didn't mind not hearing what they said, I rather had the feeling of: now I know they will argue, and if I see the movie I'll know what about.

November 26th, 2005, 03:24 PM	#853
Andy Peterson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Huntsville, Ontario Posts: 62	Hey Ash, Thanks for the post. We are a bunch of TV Broadcasting students with no proper 'film' training. This was a fun project to work on. This isn't a simple relationship movie. There is a HUGE twist that we tried to hint at in the trailer to intice people to watch. Did that not come through? I have passed your recomendations along to the editor. Thanks! ...Andy

November 26th, 2005, 03:43 PM	#854
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Most contemporary trailers feature the best bits of the product. Most are fast and pacey - the slower, gentler style works if there are things to look at apart from the obvious. As an example the girl on the phone, upset. Why not take a much smaller chunk and slo-mo it showing the facial expression of sadness. One question - why black and white? It has the 'look' of tv, not film, in shooting and framing - so the b&w is an oddity. The other thing in a short trailer like this is that far too much time is spent on black & titles - waste of time, in my view. The test I always use is "do I want to watch this?" and I'm sorry to say the answer, for me, would be no.

November 26th, 2005, 08:53 PM	#855
Leigh Wanstead Trustee Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NZ Posts: 1,276	My garden show http://www.salenz.com/movie/www.sale...2005.11.27.mpg Can be played by software dvd player i.e. powerdvd, Microsoft Media player etc. File size around 80mb. Regards Leigh