Show Your Work 2005

Thomas OHara · May 24th, 2005, 01:39 PM

i thought it was pretty cool. makes me want a dvx 100a even more now.

Rob Lohman · May 25th, 2005, 04:34 AM

Vegas is pretty good to do these kind of conversions, and I agree, uprezzing
can look pretty good most of the time. SD has a lot more resolution than a
lot of people credit it for, especially with a good camera.

Rick Step · May 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM

Just want to thank all the people at the dv info boards for their help during the making of my first film. The preview is up at my website www.prospectmovie.com if anyone wants to check it out. It features a bunch of major league baseball players and coaches and was completly shot with the XL2. It's starting to pick up steam in the baseball community and looks to be a succesful project.

I used these boards for guidance on issues ranging from what camera to purchase to multiple editing questions. It's been fantastic.

Rick
www.prospectmovie.com

Rick Step · May 25th, 2005, 10:28 PM

I forgot to add that I got my camera from brian at Zotz digital...who I found on these boards. From my experiences working with zotz, I wouldn't go anywhere else.

Rick

Cassidy Bisher · May 25th, 2005, 10:41 PM

I like it.. insightful, compelling... and the little subtle transistions are good, with good text animations.. short and to the point... may i suggest crushing the blacks a little bit, to give some enigmatic stimulation to the subconscience brain?

I would watch this movie..

cassidy

www.motivitypictures.com

Richard Alvarez · May 26th, 2005, 10:00 AM

Our short "After Twilight" was selected by the Texas Film Commision to be part of the Texas Filmmakers Showcase. It will screen as an evening of Texas Films at Raleigh Studios, The Chaplin Theatre on June 12th. It's pretty much an invitation only event, The Film Commision uses it as a showcase to industry professionals to illustrate the caliber of crews and locations available in Texas. We're the only Houston based film showing.

"After Twilight" took a Gold award at Worldfest Houston International Film Festival last month, and continues to make the festival rounds. We just finished up a feature length version of the script, and we're shopping it to a couple of distributors now.

www.nu-classicfilms.com has info and a trailer.

I'll be in LA that weekend to smooze and see it projected in a nice theatre.

Salvador OHara · May 26th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Hunter S. Thompson is on a field trip to Heaven and is bringing Tricky Dick down to the depths of hell.

Dave Ferdinand · May 26th, 2005, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the comments, Mathieu.

I don't have that many production 'behind the scenes' photos or footage, but I'll try to gather something and add it to the site. Good idea.

The reason for no sound in the trailer is that I still have quite a few things to do, so I haven't had the time to refine it.

The whole short was done with a GL2. When the trailer is playing, you can actually see a small GL2 icon at the top-right corner of the web browser.

Anyone else with more positive/negative comments welcome!

Dennis Hingsberg · May 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM

I've uploaded a new cut used on my demo DVD which has version of various footage shot indoor and outdoor from a project I worked on towards the end of last year.

Shot with mixed nikon and Arri lenses, 1k's mostly used and ND for outdoors.

www.starcentral.ca/images/bb/bb.htm

Feedback welcome..

Glenn Chan · May 28th, 2005, 01:29 PM

Was that shot on DV or 16mm?

2- Hey, I happen to know Igor (credited as cinematographer on your webpage) and did some color grading for his demo reel.

I saw some of that footage earlier (different shots some of them) on his reel and I though it was 16mm.

Dennis Hingsberg · May 28th, 2005, 02:49 PM

Hey Glenn,

It was shot on DV using my XL2 and mini35 adapter... thus the depth of field we were able to achieve on this project.

Glad to hear you know Igor and that you thought it was shot in film. The footage did need quite a bit of color correction and grading, what tools do you prefer using for that? I've found Color Finese to be pretty good for After Effects.

Igor and I might be working together on something new shortly.. hope to have more footage to post soon.

Glenn Chan · May 28th, 2005, 10:33 PM

I prefer using Vegas 6. Why I like it:
-Very powerful (as in lots of tools), although it doesn't do everything.
-Controls are responsive. Double click a slider, it resets. Move a slider, things update on the fly (as opposed to Final Cut, where this doesn't happen).
-OK still/reference store.
-Firewire preview, has big vectorscopes + histogram.
-Reasonably fast. Very fast compared to Magic Bullet Editors. Some operations like bezier masking and blurs and chroma blur are slow, which affects responsiveness too.
-I'm very comfortable with the interface and it doesn't take that much button pushing to do things.
-Filter heirarchy (can apply filter at various levels), and takes system.

What I don't like:
-Speed (Ideally there's be a system out there that's faster. I don't think there's anything significantly faster.)
-No luminance curves like Combustion does.
-No motion tracking which you can tie into masks. (Never figured this out in After Effects. Yet?)
-No 32-bit float rendering. You just have to be careful as to filter order.
-No good built-in noise reduction tools, although you can use Mike Crash's filters. DNR and Smart Smoother
-Conforming tools- never tried AAF import, although apparently there are bugs?
-Learning curve / things that aren't obvious (i.e. 7.5IRE setup in the scopes, how not to make illegal colors [especially on dissolve to black], which filters are stupid, etc.)
-No luminance composite mode.
-Reference store could store more stuff.
-There needs to be shortcuts for specific commands to speed up workflow.
-No color matching tools, although I wouldn't know what to use em for.

I tried Color Finesse + After Effects. I didn't get into it, but I am more comfortable with Vegas so I like that better. What I didn't like about Color Finesse / AE:
-You have to wait for the interface to load up. On my system, it's buggy.
-Things aren't big... i.e. the curves window, and the histogram. It hard to see things precisely.
-I don't get the secondary color corrector. It seems to be limited compared to Vegas'
-Lacking some tools in Vegas: Noise reduction, gradient map to add duo/tritone (although secondaries can do this??; I don't get them, so I don't know how I'd use em)

2- I'm not really sure what film looks like. Probably why I was under the impression it was film:
-Igor was talking about how some of the stuff on his reel was shot on film.
-It didn't look like video.

I think it could look better (i.e. camera likely could've been steadier if you had a steadicam), but you don't have a Hollywood budget.

Evan Strobel · May 29th, 2005, 01:21 AM

http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/sho...onceuponajedi/
I have my own opinons on it. I think it's a really solid little short. It kept me entertained.
What do you think of it?

Shot on Sony's Cinealta HD900.

Bill Zens · May 29th, 2005, 09:42 AM

Rick, I'm in the middle coaching a team now, and have been coaching at the junior-senior level for several years now, so this struck more of a baseball reaction, instead of an analytical reaction from me.

Your preview looked great, and I've passed your link on to other coaches in our league...Although your video focuses on what it takes to get to the next, ultimate level in baseball, it would not surprise me if its lessons would apply to all other levels of life, whether in basketball, tennis, golf, or the business world.
We've found in business(I run a large division of a very large company) that those who have succeeded in getting to the "next level" in sports, especially team sports, usually are very successful later on in life. It's just that most kids and young adults who have the talent, don't know what it takes to get there.

Best of luck.

Chris Yi · May 29th, 2005, 07:44 PM

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I've posted anything on here, but I wanted some constructive feedback from you guys so I decided to put my latest short online.

www.noneedforalarm.cjb.net

My friend and I rushed to make this film in 6 days and barely made the deadline for the UCLA Shorttakes Film Festival (we're freshman at UCLA) so the quality is not the greatest and I know it doesn't match up to the other work found on this board, but I'm just looking for some feedback so I can get better and learn from my mistakes. Thanks so much for all your help, I really appreciate it!

- Chris Yi

May 25th, 2005, 04:34 AM	#482
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Vegas is pretty good to do these kind of conversions, and I agree, uprezzing can look pretty good most of the time. SD has a lot more resolution than a lot of people credit it for, especially with a good camera. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM	#483
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	Prospect Movie XL2 Just want to thank all the people at the dv info boards for their help during the making of my first film. The preview is up at my website www.prospectmovie.com if anyone wants to check it out. It features a bunch of major league baseball players and coaches and was completly shot with the XL2. It's starting to pick up steam in the baseball community and looks to be a succesful project. I used these boards for guidance on issues ranging from what camera to purchase to multiple editing questions. It's been fantastic. Rick www.prospectmovie.com

May 25th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#485
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	likey I like it.. insightful, compelling... and the little subtle transistions are good, with good text animations.. short and to the point... may i suggest crushing the blacks a little bit, to give some enigmatic stimulation to the subconscience brain? I would watch this movie.. cassidy www.motivitypictures.com

May 26th, 2005, 10:00 AM	#486
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	"After Twilight" to screen in LA. Our short "After Twilight" was selected by the Texas Film Commision to be part of the Texas Filmmakers Showcase. It will screen as an evening of Texas Films at Raleigh Studios, The Chaplin Theatre on June 12th. It's pretty much an invitation only event, The Film Commision uses it as a showcase to industry professionals to illustrate the caliber of crews and locations available in Texas. We're the only Houston based film showing. "After Twilight" took a Gold award at Worldfest Houston International Film Festival last month, and continues to make the festival rounds. We just finished up a feature length version of the script, and we're shopping it to a couple of distributors now. www.nu-classicfilms.com has info and a trailer. I'll be in LA that weekend to smooze and see it projected in a nice theatre.

May 26th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#487
Salvador OHara New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 10	Hunter S. Thompson is on a field trip to Heaven and is bringing Tricky Dick down to the depths of hell. __________________ I killed the Muse.

May 24th, 2005, 01:39 PM	#481
Thomas OHara Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 37	i thought it was pretty cool. makes me want a dvx 100a even more now.

May 25th, 2005, 10:28 PM	#484
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	I forgot to add that I got my camera from brian at Zotz digital...who I found on these boards. From my experiences working with zotz, I wouldn't go anywhere else. Rick

May 26th, 2005, 02:45 PM	#488
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	Thanks for the comments, Mathieu. I don't have that many production 'behind the scenes' photos or footage, but I'll try to gather something and add it to the site. Good idea. The reason for no sound in the trailer is that I still have quite a few things to do, so I haven't had the time to refine it. The whole short was done with a GL2. When the trailer is playing, you can actually see a small GL2 icon at the top-right corner of the web browser. Anyone else with more positive/negative comments welcome! __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

May 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM	#489
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	5 minute edit of various XL2/mini35 footage I've uploaded a new cut used on my demo DVD which has version of various footage shot indoor and outdoor from a project I worked on towards the end of last year. Shot with mixed nikon and Arri lenses, 1k's mostly used and ND for outdoors. www.starcentral.ca/images/bb/bb.htm Feedback welcome.. __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55

May 28th, 2005, 01:29 PM	#490
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Was that shot on DV or 16mm? 2- Hey, I happen to know Igor (credited as cinematographer on your webpage) and did some color grading for his demo reel. I saw some of that footage earlier (different shots some of them) on his reel and I though it was 16mm.

May 28th, 2005, 02:49 PM	#491
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	Hey Glenn, It was shot on DV using my XL2 and mini35 adapter... thus the depth of field we were able to achieve on this project. Glad to hear you know Igor and that you thought it was shot in film. The footage did need quite a bit of color correction and grading, what tools do you prefer using for that? I've found Color Finese to be pretty good for After Effects. Igor and I might be working together on something new shortly.. hope to have more footage to post soon. __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55

May 28th, 2005, 10:33 PM	#492
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	I prefer using Vegas 6. Why I like it: -Very powerful (as in lots of tools), although it doesn't do everything. -Controls are responsive. Double click a slider, it resets. Move a slider, things update on the fly (as opposed to Final Cut, where this doesn't happen). -OK still/reference store. -Firewire preview, has big vectorscopes + histogram. -Reasonably fast. Very fast compared to Magic Bullet Editors. Some operations like bezier masking and blurs and chroma blur are slow, which affects responsiveness too. -I'm very comfortable with the interface and it doesn't take that much button pushing to do things. -Filter heirarchy (can apply filter at various levels), and takes system. What I don't like: -Speed (Ideally there's be a system out there that's faster. I don't think there's anything significantly faster.) -No luminance curves like Combustion does. -No motion tracking which you can tie into masks. (Never figured this out in After Effects. Yet?) -No 32-bit float rendering. You just have to be careful as to filter order. -No good built-in noise reduction tools, although you can use Mike Crash's filters. DNR and Smart Smoother -Conforming tools- never tried AAF import, although apparently there are bugs? -Learning curve / things that aren't obvious (i.e. 7.5IRE setup in the scopes, how not to make illegal colors [especially on dissolve to black], which filters are stupid, etc.) -No luminance composite mode. -Reference store could store more stuff. -There needs to be shortcuts for specific commands to speed up workflow. -No color matching tools, although I wouldn't know what to use em for. I tried Color Finesse + After Effects. I didn't get into it, but I am more comfortable with Vegas so I like that better. What I didn't like about Color Finesse / AE: -You have to wait for the interface to load up. On my system, it's buggy. -Things aren't big... i.e. the curves window, and the histogram. It hard to see things precisely. -I don't get the secondary color corrector. It seems to be limited compared to Vegas' -Lacking some tools in Vegas: Noise reduction, gradient map to add duo/tritone (although secondaries can do this??; I don't get them, so I don't know how I'd use em) 2- I'm not really sure what film looks like. Probably why I was under the impression it was film: -Igor was talking about how some of the stuff on his reel was shot on film. -It didn't look like video. I think it could look better (i.e. camera likely could've been steadier if you had a steadicam), but you don't have a Hollywood budget.

May 29th, 2005, 01:21 AM	#493
Evan Strobel Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 26	First "Star Wars" Fan Film I've really enjoyed. http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/sho...onceuponajedi/ I have my own opinons on it. I think it's a really solid little short. It kept me entertained. What do you think of it? Shot on Sony's Cinealta HD900. Last edited by Evan Strobel; May 29th, 2005 at 11:24 AM.

May 29th, 2005, 09:42 AM	#494
Bill Zens Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 191	Rick, I'm in the middle coaching a team now, and have been coaching at the junior-senior level for several years now, so this struck more of a baseball reaction, instead of an analytical reaction from me. Your preview looked great, and I've passed your link on to other coaches in our league...Although your video focuses on what it takes to get to the next, ultimate level in baseball, it would not surprise me if its lessons would apply to all other levels of life, whether in basketball, tennis, golf, or the business world. We've found in business(I run a large division of a very large company) that those who have succeeded in getting to the "next level" in sports, especially team sports, usually are very successful later on in life. It's just that most kids and young adults who have the talent, don't know what it takes to get there. Best of luck.

May 29th, 2005, 07:44 PM	#495
Chris Yi Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Walnut Creek (USA) Posts: 32	No Need for Alarm - finalist for the UCLA Shorttakes Film Festival Hey guys, It's been a while since I've posted anything on here, but I wanted some constructive feedback from you guys so I decided to put my latest short online. www.noneedforalarm.cjb.net My friend and I rushed to make this film in 6 days and barely made the deadline for the UCLA Shorttakes Film Festival (we're freshman at UCLA) so the quality is not the greatest and I know it doesn't match up to the other work found on this board, but I'm just looking for some feedback so I can get better and learn from my mistakes. Thanks so much for all your help, I really appreciate it! - Chris Yi