Show Your Work 2005

Brandon Greenlee · March 17th, 2005, 07:39 AM

Oh ok.

Cool idea. I wasn't really able to to tell the old movie effects from the lower quality quicktime file, but overall the movie did look good.

Richard Alvarez · March 17th, 2005, 08:09 AM

Would have been twice as good at half as long.

Rick Pearson · March 17th, 2005, 08:17 AM

According to our station's ratecard the going price of that commercial should have been $1025.00, but clients often recieve "give me's" and discounts when buying on-air packages.

This commercial was one of those instances.

The time table for production on this spot was:

2.5 hours field production
2 hours editing

I'm curious as to what your markets would price a spot that took the above mentioned time to create. I look forward to hearing.

Luis Caffesse · March 18th, 2005, 12:50 AM

I was more curious on the cost of the South Metro Automotive spot you posted.

I've been doing a lot of work for clients who are looking for a low cost alternative to the TV stations here. The stations will generally shoot the spots for free, but then getting dubs from them to run on other stations becomes a hassle. Also, the production value is generally low, and all the spots look the same.

Most of the spots I have been doing are for car dealerships (lately). So I rarely go out and shoot 1 spot. Usually (like tomorrow) I'll go out, and we'll shoot 3 or 4 at once. I take about an hour or two shooting the talent, and then another hour or two shooting B-roll of the dealership, service dept, etc.

I generally take 1-2 days of editing and deliver the master to the agency when it's done.

The cost usually winds up being around 750 - 1000 per spot, depending on how many we shoot.
(about 4K for the whole job)

Keep in mind this is a basic head shot, cut to Broll, head shot, cut to dealership, end with title graphics - type of spot.

I go out and shoot alone, maybe have someone there for broll footage, and I do all the post myself. So I have virtually zero overhead. Oh yeah, and I'm working out of the house.

Rick Pearson · March 18th, 2005, 08:42 AM

The price I stated was the price for the South Metro Automotive spot. It alone theoretically cost $1025, had the client actually been billed. With the on-air package they purchased they got the spot for free.

Had I billed for the same spot as a freelancer my price would have been $1015.

Luis, when you started out freelancing, how did you get the attention and business of your local agencies? Right now I'm doing mainly business that comes straight from a client or a referral, but I want to get some agency work as well.

Olex Smolsky · March 18th, 2005, 11:32 AM

I have changed the video so it has better quicktime quality.

The video is shorter in time, but a bit bigger..

300x240, 33mb...

Neo Castillo · March 18th, 2005, 02:12 PM

I saw the site. nice layout. Just one thing you might wantto change with that trailer. You might want to select music that is not off a royalty freesite. I can't even count how many times ive heard and used myself that music which i believe is off freeplay or from apple. I can't recall. A doc with the subject matter you are covering deserves better than that.

Tony Gilmore · March 18th, 2005, 05:10 PM

i agree :) actually that trailer is only a demo reel that was made some time ago...we just havent had time to cut the real trailer which I hope to swap out in the next month. Thanks for mentioning i though...i will get on that right away.

We are actually using a variety of music compositions made here in Korea.

Bests

Neo Castillo · March 18th, 2005, 08:43 PM

Im gald to hear that. I hope i didn't offend you though. I know sometimes i can come off that way. It's just that it looks like you put alot of money and effert into this project to leave it like that. Please let us know when the whole thing is done. I'd like to see the results.

Travis Maynard · March 18th, 2005, 10:47 PM

The Game Genie 2

Code:

Ever so often, videogame companies set out to make a 
videogame system that will rule the world.

This time they got their wish...
         
An Evil Corporation plans a beta testing contest in which 
the 2  winners will get to test their new console, 
The XcubeStation. 

Overjoyed and unaware of The XcubeStation’s power, the 
first beta tester (Tim-E Wiley) and his friend  (Kevin Raines)
turn on the system. With the XcubeStation powered on two
 Evil Co. employee’s, Adam (Adam Funk) and Alex
(Alex Diffenderfer) are on the boys every move to make 
sure that everything is 
excuted as they had planned.
 
Now, caught between the real world and the videogame 
world Tim-E and Kevin set out to find the second beta 
tester  (Travis Maynard) to put an end to Evil Co....

Once and for all....

Let the games begin.

First full length movie I directed and edited.

Nothing spectacular. No fancy camera, or camera work.

Just for entertainment.

I thought I would share.

http://www.fscwv.edu/users/traines1/...Compressed.rar

Rich Sheikh · March 19th, 2005, 06:27 AM

I'm new at video. I'm using a one chip Sony DV camera and do my editing on Imovie. I do plan to upgrade my equip soon but thought I would share some of my entry level work. Opinions are welcome.

Here are a few short Quicktime movies...

Cliff Hangers
http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater30.html

Wedding Day
http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater14.html

Water Games
http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater23.html

Feats of Clay
http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater19.html

Latin Girls
http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater44.html

Rob Lohman · March 19th, 2005, 08:10 AM

That file is 450 MB large. Most people are not going to download
something that huge. How long is the runningtime?

Travis Maynard · March 19th, 2005, 09:25 AM

It is a full movie.

It's a hour long. I compressed it as much as I could.

Sorry for the filesize.

Ian Slessor · March 19th, 2005, 09:50 PM

You could cut it into chapters. Make it more palatable for those who might take a look at it.

ian

David Eggerichs · March 19th, 2005, 11:40 PM

If anyone cares. This is some random footage my friend Cassidy and I shot.

http://brighterpeople.com/cass/why_nona.mov

Don't dig too deep into the meaning.

March 17th, 2005, 07:39 AM	#271
Brandon Greenlee Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 242	Oh ok. Cool idea. I wasn't really able to to tell the old movie effects from the lower quality quicktime file, but overall the movie did look good. __________________ Brandon Greenlee

March 17th, 2005, 08:17 AM	#273
Rick Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 55	Prices According to our station's ratecard the going price of that commercial should have been $1025.00, but clients often recieve "give me's" and discounts when buying on-air packages. This commercial was one of those instances. The time table for production on this spot was: 2.5 hours field production 2 hours editing I'm curious as to what your markets would price a spot that took the above mentioned time to create. I look forward to hearing. __________________ Rick Pearson, http://www.nextlevelmediaproductions.com

March 18th, 2005, 12:50 AM	#274
Luis Caffesse Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 704	I was more curious on the cost of the South Metro Automotive spot you posted. I've been doing a lot of work for clients who are looking for a low cost alternative to the TV stations here. The stations will generally shoot the spots for free, but then getting dubs from them to run on other stations becomes a hassle. Also, the production value is generally low, and all the spots look the same. Most of the spots I have been doing are for car dealerships (lately). So I rarely go out and shoot 1 spot. Usually (like tomorrow) I'll go out, and we'll shoot 3 or 4 at once. I take about an hour or two shooting the talent, and then another hour or two shooting B-roll of the dealership, service dept, etc. I generally take 1-2 days of editing and deliver the master to the agency when it's done. The cost usually winds up being around 750 - 1000 per spot, depending on how many we shoot. (about 4K for the whole job) Keep in mind this is a basic head shot, cut to Broll, head shot, cut to dealership, end with title graphics - type of spot. I go out and shoot alone, maybe have someone there for broll footage, and I do all the post myself. So I have virtually zero overhead. Oh yeah, and I'm working out of the house. __________________ Luis Caffesse Pitch Productions Austin, Texas

March 18th, 2005, 08:42 AM	#275
Rick Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 55	The price I stated was the price for the South Metro Automotive spot. It alone theoretically cost $1025, had the client actually been billed. With the on-air package they purchased they got the spot for free. Had I billed for the same spot as a freelancer my price would have been $1015. Luis, when you started out freelancing, how did you get the attention and business of your local agencies? Right now I'm doing mainly business that comes straight from a client or a referral, but I want to get some agency work as well. __________________ Rick Pearson, http://www.nextlevelmediaproductions.com

March 18th, 2005, 11:32 AM	#276
Olex Smolsky Tourist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 3	changes.. I have changed the video so it has better quicktime quality. The video is shorter in time, but a bit bigger.. 300x240, 33mb... __________________ http://www.simpleidentity.com

March 17th, 2005, 08:09 AM	#272
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Would have been twice as good at half as long.

March 18th, 2005, 02:12 PM	#277
Neo Castillo Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 66	one comment I saw the site. nice layout. Just one thing you might wantto change with that trailer. You might want to select music that is not off a royalty freesite. I can't even count how many times ive heard and used myself that music which i believe is off freeplay or from apple. I can't recall. A doc with the subject matter you are covering deserves better than that.

March 18th, 2005, 05:10 PM	#278
Tony Gilmore New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 16	i agree :) actually that trailer is only a demo reel that was made some time ago...we just havent had time to cut the real trailer which I hope to swap out in the next month. Thanks for mentioning i though...i will get on that right away. We are actually using a variety of music compositions made here in Korea. Bests

March 18th, 2005, 08:43 PM	#279
Neo Castillo Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 66	great to hear Im gald to hear that. I hope i didn't offend you though. I know sometimes i can come off that way. It's just that it looks like you put alot of money and effert into this project to leave it like that. Please let us know when the whole thing is done. I'd like to see the results.

March 19th, 2005, 06:27 AM	#281
Rich Sheikh Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 34	Some of my IMovies I'm new at video. I'm using a one chip Sony DV camera and do my editing on Imovie. I do plan to upgrade my equip soon but thought I would share some of my entry level work. Opinions are welcome. Here are a few short Quicktime movies... Cliff Hangers http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater30.html Wedding Day http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater14.html Water Games http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater23.html Feats of Clay http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater19.html Latin Girls http://homepage.mac.com/richsheikh/iMovieTheater44.html

March 19th, 2005, 08:10 AM	#282
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That file is 450 MB large. Most people are not going to download something that huge. How long is the runningtime? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 19th, 2005, 09:25 AM	#283
Travis Maynard Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chapmanville, USA Posts: 138	It is a full movie. It's a hour long. I compressed it as much as I could. Sorry for the filesize.

March 19th, 2005, 09:50 PM	#284
Ian Slessor Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South-Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 216	That's a BIG D/L You could cut it into chapters. Make it more palatable for those who might take a look at it. ian

March 19th, 2005, 11:40 PM	#285
David Eggerichs Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 51	XL2 Footage If anyone cares. This is some random footage my friend Cassidy and I shot. http://brighterpeople.com/cass/why_nona.mov Don't dig too deep into the meaning.