Watch my new short film

Bryan Roberts · July 9th, 2004, 07:28 AM

Young - you have some great looking shots in there. You gotta love such little DOF in the 16mm lense. I've shot a few shorts with the old Arri 16 cameras and it's a blast but man, film is so much harder to shoot with than minidv with all the measuring and light metering etc. Obviously, I also have to critique the sound but that's a dead horse at this point.

I had a few issues that I guess no one else really minded. I thought the casting for the savior was off. First off, on camera he came off a bit cheasy looking. And I hope this doesn't come off bad but I thought that since the two battling characters had a distinct "asian" look that having a balding, younger white guy brought my attention to the fact that he was a white guy. I'm not by any means suggesting that if you have asian characters, you must keep all asian characters throughout a film but since it was a short with 3 characters and the two opposing ones were of the same descent and we see them interact a while before this ghost like savior character enters which is already a surprise, having him look so different made it almost too much for me personally. Finally, I was guessing that your protagonist had ended up dying, that he did infact shoot up when we saw his face in anguish. The cut back to him not actually doing it was only part of his dream at death and the savior figure was intended to be a Jesus stereotype figure as in the "savior" the savior and his final battle was fighting off evil (who was wearing black) before ascending into heaven or the afterlife etc. . Again, what made me conclude all of this was the fact that your savior character was cast as a balding white dude wearing white and appears spirit like, similar to what we've seen to be a typical jesus or god character in movies of the past (or what christian churches have trained people to think). Anyways, your short looked cool though, and I look forward to seeing a version with different sfx which will help immensely. Best of luck and what an awesome first effort with a film.

Young-H. Lee · July 9th, 2004, 11:54 AM

Thanks Dylan and Bryan

Bryan, that was the first time anybody actually mentioned that the white jesus guy looked cheesy (the other two negative comments I got a while ago was that he looked gay haha), but it was interesting reading your interpretation because you interpreted it differently from what I intended. It helps immensely though, to get an idea of what audiences think and what I intended - will aid in my future efforts to be more clearer in abstract concept films like this.

If you want the skinny of what I intended its like this:
Man trapped hopelessly in his sins, at the point of death and torment by his demons is saved by a Savior (hence Enter the Savior), and is given the power to overcome the devil (his 'divine annointing') then he gets up with newfound strength to defeat the evil and walk out into the light of eternity with his new friend

Thanks for the comments, keep them coming

Heath Hays · July 12th, 2004, 01:42 PM

young, i have amassed some great action sounds. id gladly pass them along to you. i come to filmmaking from sound design, so my sfx library is very vast. i have both homemade and stock libraries. loved the film. imagine fixing those sound effects and never hearing "i loved it, but" again.

great work.

Young-H. Lee · July 12th, 2004, 10:35 PM

whoa! That'd be great Heath!! Thanks, let me know how you want to do this :D

July 9th, 2004, 11:54 AM	#17
Young-H. Lee Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 44	Thanks Dylan and Bryan Bryan, that was the first time anybody actually mentioned that the white jesus guy looked cheesy (the other two negative comments I got a while ago was that he looked gay haha), but it was interesting reading your interpretation because you interpreted it differently from what I intended. It helps immensely though, to get an idea of what audiences think and what I intended - will aid in my future efforts to be more clearer in abstract concept films like this. If you want the skinny of what I intended its like this: Man trapped hopelessly in his sins, at the point of death and torment by his demons is saved by a Savior (hence Enter the Savior), and is given the power to overcome the devil (his 'divine annointing') then he gets up with newfound strength to defeat the evil and walk out into the light of eternity with his new friend Thanks for the comments, keep them coming __________________ It's the perfect time to be a filmmaker.

July 12th, 2004, 01:42 PM	#18
Heath Hays Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 60	young, i have amassed some great action sounds. id gladly pass them along to you. i come to filmmaking from sound design, so my sfx library is very vast. i have both homemade and stock libraries. loved the film. imagine fixing those sound effects and never hearing "i loved it, but" again. great work. __________________ Heath Hays MGD Productions

July 12th, 2004, 10:35 PM	#19
Young-H. Lee Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 44	whoa! That'd be great Heath!! Thanks, let me know how you want to do this :D __________________ It's the perfect time to be a filmmaker.

July 9th, 2004, 07:28 AM	#16
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	Young - you have some great looking shots in there. You gotta love such little DOF in the 16mm lense. I've shot a few shorts with the old Arri 16 cameras and it's a blast but man, film is so much harder to shoot with than minidv with all the measuring and light metering etc. Obviously, I also have to critique the sound but that's a dead horse at this point. I had a few issues that I guess no one else really minded. I thought the casting for the savior was off. First off, on camera he came off a bit cheasy looking. And I hope this doesn't come off bad but I thought that since the two battling characters had a distinct "asian" look that having a balding, younger white guy brought my attention to the fact that he was a white guy. I'm not by any means suggesting that if you have asian characters, you must keep all asian characters throughout a film but since it was a short with 3 characters and the two opposing ones were of the same descent and we see them interact a while before this ghost like savior character enters which is already a surprise, having him look so different made it almost too much for me personally. Finally, I was guessing that your protagonist had ended up dying, that he did infact shoot up when we saw his face in anguish. The cut back to him not actually doing it was only part of his dream at death and the savior figure was intended to be a Jesus stereotype figure as in the "savior" the savior and his final battle was fighting off evil (who was wearing black) before ascending into heaven or the afterlife etc. . Again, what made me conclude all of this was the fact that your savior character was cast as a balding white dude wearing white and appears spirit like, similar to what we've seen to be a typical jesus or god character in movies of the past (or what christian churches have trained people to think). Anyways, your short looked cool though, and I look forward to seeing a version with different sfx which will help immensely. Best of luck and what an awesome first effort with a film.