June 30th, 2002, 03:56 PM | #1 |
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Digital Teenage Film
Many people have been congratulating us for doing something that should have been done years ago: one of the first movies ever to be produced, written, directed and performed strictly by teenagers, outside the Hollywood system -- but to make it look as if it costs millions of dollars, just like a Hollywood movie =). The first digital short to begin this digital movement was 405 the movie, and now we follow (or we hope), also premiering our work at IFILM.COM.
The following is an invitation to review our last digital film’s teaser trailer, "girl(boy) teaser trailer" which premiered Friday 5th April on IFILM.COM. This one, along with indies such as Radius, is a low-budget production that has taken the creators 3-4 years to work on, from scratch, all teenagers, beginning when they were 16 years old, struggling their way along the production, and finishing now, on 2K2. There’s no Hollywood involvement, and the movie is completely done by a small group of young filmmakers. You can watch Behind the Scenes footage or take a look at our mp3 soundtrack at our website, http://www.schoolis2die4.com. Please do consider reviewing us: the link to our teaser trailer is the following: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_info/0,3699,2415261,00.html Thanks for your time. We hope to be the digital Robert Rodriguez of our generation. |
July 1st, 2002, 10:35 AM | #2 |
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Fernando,
That are some high hopes you are setting there, I hope you reach them. All-in-all the trailer looked nice. I hope those effects are used to further the story. As a moderator of this forum I hope you will stay with us to talk about your experiences and help others out. There are not much people out there yet who have completed a large project with the XL1/1S camera... Maybe you would be interested to write an article for the watchdog? Good luck with the last bits of your movie and I hope the future brings you good things.
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July 1st, 2002, 11:04 AM | #3 |
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Thank you Rob
That would be great, ok. What kind of article would you guys be interested in? I've got a couple of manifestos on the making of the film at my official website.
And yes, the effects do help the story. =) I know it looks like a Matrix rip-off, but actually, it's not. The trailer wasn't done very well, it isn't precise. Actually, the character in the movie IS inspired by THE MATRIX when she sees it on TV. Then she applies what she saw on television on real life, creating this weird concept of reality that ain't... duh, real. Hope you like the film (once it's out!) Thanks again. |
July 1st, 2002, 09:40 PM | #4 |
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Saw the trailer. I must say that its pretty cool. Way much better than the ones produced here.
Hope to see more of your films soon. You guys used the stock mic rite? |
July 2nd, 2002, 01:42 AM | #5 |
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Fernando, thanks for replying so soon. Articles can be about
a lof of things. I myself have written a two-part article that descriped pre-productiona and actual shooting of my first little short. I had planned to write another two parter for editing and post-production but things are not going to well at the moment with my short. I would personally be very interested in reading about what went right, what went wrong how you guys (and girls) came up with solutions and such. Since you are about to complete a full project you have been through the entire process and must have some things to tell of all the different stages. Our articles are usually a bit longer and more detailed than what I read in your manifesto's (btw, your equipment manifesto doesn't seem to work). If you are interested, check my articles out. If you go to the site (www.dvinfo.net) they can be found under the Articles button on the left side. They are the first two under DV Production Notes. Perhaps they give you an idea as to how the articles are constructed. Pictures are always good (especially before and after or set pictures etc.), which I hadn't developed yet when I wrote those articles myself. Chris (the site and forums owner) can even host movies (making off's etc.) if I'm not mistaken. I have one question for you. In a couple of shots in the trailer you have a pretty shallow DOF. When we see a gun in focus the person behind it is a bit out of focus. How did you guys do that with the XL1? I've been trying to do that myself without much luck at the moment. Thanks!
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July 2nd, 2002, 06:36 AM | #6 |
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Hosting short trailers... no problem! ;-)
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July 2nd, 2002, 08:25 AM | #7 |
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Rob:
I was thinking about the same DoF thing as I was trying to go to sleep last night! Here's how I'm thinking of how to do it: I use Adobe Premiere 6.0 and Photoshop. Maybe this is a way to do it: export a few movie frames from the NLE software to Photohop. The shots will have pretty much everything in focus (like a normal video look). Then, cut out around the object thats more-so in the forground. Next, use the blur tool in photoshop on the background until it has a desired "out-of-focused" look. Then put back in the cut-out of the forground object. Do this for all of the desired frames. Takes time, but I think it might have the psychological effect on your audience that 35mm film DoF has. This might not work, though. What do you think? I would like to hear how Fernando did it. Regards, Kyle "Doc" Mitchell |
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Kyle. That is very possible indeed. There are even tools available
that can do that right within your video app or special effects tools. But, as you've said, that takes time. There are a lot of frames in a scene. Lets hope those special video tools have some extra tools for this. I plan on doing some testing with these in the near future. Time, however--as always-- is not on my side lately.
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July 2nd, 2002, 05:01 PM | #9 |
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I think I'm a jerk
What's DoF? Hahaha. Sorry, not familiar with the term.
Still, don't know what shot exactly you are talking about. If you are talking about a simple out of focus... that was 'done' with the lens. But not sure which shot you are asking me about. Post again and let me know =) About the articles, I'll check them out soon and see what I can do. |
July 2nd, 2002, 09:45 PM | #10 |
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DoF -- depth of field. Where one element in the frame is in focus but other elements are intentionally out of focus, to drive the audience attention to a specific thing or area on the screen.
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July 3rd, 2002, 02:20 AM | #11 |
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Fernando... chris' explenation is the correct one. Basically, in
your trailer you have a couple of shots where the guy is holding a gun. The gun is in focus (ie, sharp) but the person behind it is not (ie, blurry). This is a shallow depth of field (DOF), which is very difficult to create with video (XL1 etc.). Video has a large DOF (ie, everything is in focus from close range up to far away). I can post a screenshot from your trailer if you do not understand which part I am talking about.
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July 11th, 2002, 09:02 PM | #12 |
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can I just say I am sooooooo jealous of you guys for a few reasons; one - your trailer is HOT!!!!! I have emailed everyone I know about it. I'm in the middle of shooting an episodic and it is not half as daring as your work. What really makes me jealous is this - you guys have found your passion early on in life.... wow, congrats and keep it coming!
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July 12th, 2002, 05:12 PM | #13 |
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thanks man!
That's the kind of message that gives you strength for more!!!
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July 16th, 2002, 12:37 AM | #14 |
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Where did you get the Money?
Where did the money come from?
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July 16th, 2002, 01:42 PM | #15 |
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what money?
The movie, all of it, cost about 2000... and I think I'm exaggerating a little. Of course, not taking into account the equipment. 4 years shooting and editing and such. Preproduction, postproduction and shooting all at the same time... haha
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