Show Your Work 2004

Kyle Kauss · February 18th, 2004, 02:06 PM

good point I'll work on it

Peter Richardson · February 18th, 2004, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. The issue is definitely a complicated one, and the guy who makes the Hitler comment has some pretty extreme ideas and concerns. He is also the one who heads up this scholarship and decided to pull it for these kids. I think some of his concerns about schools are valid, others are a little out there. Take a look at the WSJ article under the Press section and you can see more about what he's concerned about. Thanks again for the input,

peter

Alfred Tomaszewski · February 18th, 2004, 04:51 PM

here is a new promo we made. comments are welcome.

www.scrambledvisual.com/kenshirointro.mov

Rob Lohman · February 18th, 2004, 05:19 PM

Looking nice! Short, fast. The first 10 seconds could've been a
bit faster though. I liked the music the most at the ending, but
that's just my taste <g> Did they play that last part as well?
Cause I could probably use some nice guitar stuff like that for
a short of my own.

Alfred Tomaszewski · February 18th, 2004, 06:15 PM

yes that is all their own music. they are kind of a war metal band so they have some of that nice slow guitar in their music amist all the brutal metal.

Rob Lohman · February 18th, 2004, 06:25 PM

A bit like Dimmu Borgir eh. They start of nice and orchestral and
then all you know what brakes loose. Oh well...

Aaron Rosen · February 18th, 2004, 06:58 PM

Hi Everyone.

I just completed a trailer or a montage (not sure what you want to call it) for our local Search & Rescue Team.

It's a 6 mB QuickTime movie.

I would love feed back on it.

LINK :: www.dvfreelancer.com/media/video/HBSRTeaser.mov

- Aaron

Rob Lohman · February 18th, 2004, 07:31 PM

Hey Aaron! Looked nice. I was hoping for some moving footage,
but that wasn't available I presume. I thought the transitions with
the "fire" could be a tiny bit faster and the the rhytm near the
end started out nice but then missed the "beat" (so to speak).
I also really disliked the first transition after the text (the one with
the weird streaks -> that looked cheap, especially compared to
the rest of the transitions which where good looking!)

Nice!

Dustin Waits · February 18th, 2004, 10:51 PM

This is pretty much a clip taken out of my full length video I finished a while back. I say pretty much because the only thing different is the animation in the beginning. The beginning animation in the full length video is alot better. It has a faster pace too it and is probably put together better than the last videos I recently made for the internet. Probably because i spent more time working on the full length. Anyways, enjoy...

www.bmxbums.com/videos/jimmyspart.wmv
www.bmxbums.com/videos/jimmyspart.mov

James Sidney · February 19th, 2004, 12:30 AM

I've just posted a two and a half minute promotional clip on my website. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Go to www.jamessidney.com, then: workshops / tobermory / video.

High bandwidth only.

Thanks,
James

Rob Lohman · February 19th, 2004, 06:07 AM

I really liked a lot of shot composition in there. Beautiful shots
and ofcourse beautiful scenary. I must say I wasn't too fond
of how the voice over was flowing. It sounded a bit "weird" and
was almost expecting a "mister anderson!" somewhere in there.
Heh. I'm not sure if the line "we'll never know where we'll end
up" is such a good line to have? That might not give the confidence
that the participants will visit the best places?

Looked stunning!!

Rob Lohman · February 19th, 2004, 06:27 AM

It was nice. Some shots started to look a similar further on in
the movie though. I liked the ending.

James Sidney · February 19th, 2004, 07:42 AM

Thanks Rob,

Any chance I could get you to expand on "weird"? Do you mean stilted, too flat, over/under announciated? Was one section of VO better or worse than another? (The comparison would help me see where you're coming from.)

Do you have a lot of experience with audio? Was the compression okay? The voice capture?

I appreciate you being candid.

~J

Johan Dahlpil · February 19th, 2004, 09:03 AM

Nice Trailer - However I did not grasp the subject, maybe am I a bit slow, but i could not see the why question. This is in no way critique of the trailer, which I think have nice shoots and great quality.

Bryan McCullough · February 19th, 2004, 01:22 PM

Visually I thought is was fantastic. Very, very impressive shots.

But, I was super distracted by the audio.

Here are my thoughts:

1. A few times a new cut of music starts up very strongly, then almost instantly is pulled down for the narration. I'd rather hear the music start softer if it's going to be pulled that quickly. Also, maybe have a bit more gain on it during the narration. There were many sections where I couldn't hear the music at all under the narration. That's not to say that there has to be music under the entire narration, but if you want it there make sure we can hear it.

2. Rob is right on with the "Hello, Mr. Anderson" thing. It's almost like a William Shatner impression. The best way I can describe it is it sounds like you edited together each word individually instead of it being a smooth read. There's too much choppiness and pauses in the narration. Needs to be more conversational.

Your website looks fantastic and I really did like the video. I think if you can smooth out the audio a bit you'll have a dynamite piece.

February 18th, 2004, 04:51 PM	#153
Alfred Tomaszewski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shelby Twp., MI Posts: 112	new video. here is a new promo we made. comments are welcome. www.scrambledvisual.com/kenshirointro.mov __________________ Alfred Tomaszewski (Scrambled Visual Entertainment) Scrambled Visual

February 18th, 2004, 05:19 PM	#154
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Looking nice! Short, fast. The first 10 seconds could've been a bit faster though. I liked the music the most at the ending, but that's just my taste <g> Did they play that last part as well? Cause I could probably use some nice guitar stuff like that for a short of my own. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 18th, 2004, 06:15 PM	#155
Alfred Tomaszewski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shelby Twp., MI Posts: 112	yes that is all their own music. they are kind of a war metal band so they have some of that nice slow guitar in their music amist all the brutal metal. __________________ Alfred Tomaszewski (Scrambled Visual Entertainment) Scrambled Visual

February 18th, 2004, 06:25 PM	#156
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	A bit like Dimmu Borgir eh. They start of nice and orchestral and then all you know what brakes loose. Oh well... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 18th, 2004, 06:58 PM	#157
Aaron Rosen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: HB, CA - USA Posts: 298	Trailer for local Search & Rrescue Team Hi Everyone. I just completed a trailer or a montage (not sure what you want to call it) for our local Search & Rescue Team. It's a 6 mB QuickTime movie. I would love feed back on it. LINK :: www.dvfreelancer.com/media/video/HBSRTeaser.mov - Aaron

February 18th, 2004, 02:06 PM	#151
Kyle Kauss Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 114	good point I'll work on it

February 18th, 2004, 02:45 PM	#152
Peter Richardson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 608	Thanks for the feedback guys. The issue is definitely a complicated one, and the guy who makes the Hitler comment has some pretty extreme ideas and concerns. He is also the one who heads up this scholarship and decided to pull it for these kids. I think some of his concerns about schools are valid, others are a little out there. Take a look at the WSJ article under the Press section and you can see more about what he's concerned about. Thanks again for the input, peter

February 18th, 2004, 07:31 PM	#158
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Hey Aaron! Looked nice. I was hoping for some moving footage, but that wasn't available I presume. I thought the transitions with the "fire" could be a tiny bit faster and the the rhytm near the end started out nice but then missed the "beat" (so to speak). I also really disliked the first transition after the text (the one with the weird streaks -> that looked cheap, especially compared to the rest of the transitions which where good looking!) Nice! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 18th, 2004, 10:51 PM	#159
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	An old little video... This is pretty much a clip taken out of my full length video I finished a while back. I say pretty much because the only thing different is the animation in the beginning. The beginning animation in the full length video is alot better. It has a faster pace too it and is probably put together better than the last videos I recently made for the internet. Probably because i spent more time working on the full length. Anyways, enjoy... www.bmxbums.com/videos/jimmyspart.wmv www.bmxbums.com/videos/jimmyspart.mov

February 19th, 2004, 12:30 AM	#160
James Sidney Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 44	Promo Video / Feedback? I've just posted a two and a half minute promotional clip on my website. Any feedback would be appreciated. Go to www.jamessidney.com, then: workshops / tobermory / video. High bandwidth only. Thanks, James

February 19th, 2004, 06:07 AM	#161
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I really liked a lot of shot composition in there. Beautiful shots and ofcourse beautiful scenary. I must say I wasn't too fond of how the voice over was flowing. It sounded a bit "weird" and was almost expecting a "mister anderson!" somewhere in there. Heh. I'm not sure if the line "we'll never know where we'll end up" is such a good line to have? That might not give the confidence that the participants will visit the best places? Looked stunning!! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 19th, 2004, 06:27 AM	#162
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It was nice. Some shots started to look a similar further on in the movie though. I liked the ending. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 19th, 2004, 07:42 AM	#163
James Sidney Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 44	Thanks Rob, Any chance I could get you to expand on "weird"? Do you mean stilted, too flat, over/under announciated? Was one section of VO better or worse than another? (The comparison would help me see where you're coming from.) Do you have a lot of experience with audio? Was the compression okay? The voice capture? I appreciate you being candid. ~J

February 19th, 2004, 09:03 AM	#164
Johan Dahlpil Tourist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 2	nice Nice Trailer - However I did not grasp the subject, maybe am I a bit slow, but i could not see the why question. This is in no way critique of the trailer, which I think have nice shoots and great quality.

February 19th, 2004, 01:22 PM	#165
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Visually I thought is was fantastic. Very, very impressive shots. But, I was super distracted by the audio. Here are my thoughts: 1. A few times a new cut of music starts up very strongly, then almost instantly is pulled down for the narration. I'd rather hear the music start softer if it's going to be pulled that quickly. Also, maybe have a bit more gain on it during the narration. There were many sections where I couldn't hear the music at all under the narration. That's not to say that there has to be music under the entire narration, but if you want it there make sure we can hear it. 2. Rob is right on with the "Hello, Mr. Anderson" thing. It's almost like a William Shatner impression. The best way I can describe it is it sounds like you edited together each word individually instead of it being a smooth read. There's too much choppiness and pauses in the narration. Needs to be more conversational. Your website looks fantastic and I really did like the video. I think if you can smooth out the audio a bit you'll have a dynamite piece.