Filming Dishwasher Interior/From An Open-Cockput Plane at DVinfo.net

Tony Teulan · October 21st, 2003, 07:25 AM

Just wondered if anyone here had tips on filming inside a dishwasher while it was in operation??? Also, I would like to film from a Tiger Moth biplane... any tips as to how best achieve this ie mounts, filming technique, miniDV settings etc?

Adrian Douglas · October 21st, 2003, 08:25 AM

fimling inside a dishwasher, that's a new one. I guess you could try using an EWA Marine bag, but make sure you just use cold water as I have no idea what hot water would do to the bag.

As for filming from inside a Tiger Moth hand holding would be out but a Bogen Super Clamp might do the job for you. Settings wise I'd go for Manual mode. Setting wise there shouldn't be too much difference from shooting normally. I shot from inside an F-18 once and just set my camera to manual, a fairly high f-stop, f8-11 and hand held. That was in 98 with a vx1000. The footage came out pretty good. It was a little shaky in parts but it's a little difficult holding a camera up let alone steady when your pulling 5G turns.

K. Forman · October 21st, 2003, 09:05 AM

The only problem with setting the cam in the dishwasher, aside from potential water damage, is the lack of light.

I would suggest going to an appliance repair shop, and see about having a unit modified with a sheet of plaxi glass to shoot through. Then you should be able to light and shoot through that side.

John Locke · October 21st, 2003, 09:15 AM

I've seen demo dishwashers at retailers that have clear front doors...to show buyers how it works. Check around, you might find one.

As for the plane, watch the English Patient or The Great Waldo Pepper and try to get an idea of where and how they mounted the cameras.

Jeff Donald · October 21st, 2003, 10:46 AM

I have shot the dishwasher segments for a major consumer products company. It was done with a clear dishwasher as John surmised.

Kevin King · November 13th, 2003, 11:02 PM

Check out the products from Extreme CCTV. www.extremecctv.com.

I own a security company and we use some of their cameras. They offer a line of "extreme use" cameras including under water and explosion proof cameras. I would recomend putting one of these inside the dishwasher, then running the signal cable to a deck or to the AV input of your camcorder. Many are also IR models that can produce a good picture in pure darkness using only an IR source.

This would be much smaller and easier to work with than a standard 3-CCD size camera in a waterproof bag.

Maybe that helps.

Barry Gilbert · November 14th, 2003, 11:21 AM

I would set one up out doors. Open the door and rig all the safety devices so it would run with the door open. Then shoot it close enough to get the shot but get all wet.

Just a thought.

Jeff Patnaude · January 15th, 2004, 04:06 PM

You say you are looking to shoot "from" a Tigermoth ?
Are you shooting air-to-air or air-to-ground?

Orrrr are you trying to shoot the pilot and the airplane?

Jeff Patnaude

October 21st, 2003, 07:25 AM	#1
Tony Teulan Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Posts: 43	Filming Dishwasher Interior/From An Open-Cockput Plane Just wondered if anyone here had tips on filming inside a dishwasher while it was in operation??? Also, I would like to film from a Tiger Moth biplane... any tips as to how best achieve this ie mounts, filming technique, miniDV settings etc? __________________ - Tony Teulan Cinefoundry

October 21st, 2003, 08:25 AM	#2
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	fimling inside a dishwasher, that's a new one. I guess you could try using an EWA Marine bag, but make sure you just use cold water as I have no idea what hot water would do to the bag. As for filming from inside a Tiger Moth hand holding would be out but a Bogen Super Clamp might do the job for you. Settings wise I'd go for Manual mode. Setting wise there shouldn't be too much difference from shooting normally. I shot from inside an F-18 once and just set my camera to manual, a fairly high f-stop, f8-11 and hand held. That was in 98 with a vx1000. The footage came out pretty good. It was a little shaky in parts but it's a little difficult holding a camera up let alone steady when your pulling 5G turns. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

October 21st, 2003, 09:15 AM	#4
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	I've seen demo dishwashers at retailers that have clear front doors...to show buyers how it works. Check around, you might find one. As for the plane, watch the English Patient or The Great Waldo Pepper and try to get an idea of where and how they mounted the cameras. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

October 21st, 2003, 10:46 AM	#5
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I have shot the dishwasher segments for a major consumer products company. It was done with a clear dishwasher as John surmised. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 14th, 2003, 11:21 AM	#7
Barry Gilbert Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Winnsboro, SC Posts: 96	If it were me... I would set one up out doors. Open the door and rig all the safety devices so it would run with the door open. Then shoot it close enough to get the shot but get all wet. Just a thought. __________________ "No matter how good she looks; somebody, somewhere is tried of putting up with her crap." Randy Brazell

October 21st, 2003, 09:05 AM	#3
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	The only problem with setting the cam in the dishwasher, aside from potential water damage, is the lack of light. I would suggest going to an appliance repair shop, and see about having a unit modified with a sheet of plaxi glass to shoot through. Then you should be able to light and shoot through that side.

November 13th, 2003, 11:02 PM	#6
Kevin King Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 88	Check out the products from Extreme CCTV. www.extremecctv.com. I own a security company and we use some of their cameras. They offer a line of "extreme use" cameras including under water and explosion proof cameras. I would recomend putting one of these inside the dishwasher, then running the signal cable to a deck or to the AV input of your camcorder. Many are also IR models that can produce a good picture in pure darkness using only an IR source. This would be much smaller and easier to work with than a standard 3-CCD size camera in a waterproof bag. Maybe that helps.

January 15th, 2004, 04:06 PM	#8
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	You say you are looking to shoot "from" a Tigermoth ? Are you shooting air-to-air or air-to-ground? Orrrr are you trying to shoot the pilot and the airplane? Jeff Patnaude