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March 13th, 2008, 08:46 PM | #1 |
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A Second Chance - Short Film
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I just shot a recent short for a competition and I feel it turned out very well with what we were working with. Here is a short description of what we were going for: "There are millions of homeless in America, and some do not have any means of sanctuary. Our film shows one example of the response probably many have when they see a homeless man on the streets. With the economy on a downturn, some might find themselves homeless. We feel that we need to understand what the homeless are going through and offer any assistance we can to help make their lives better" Technical Details: Runtime: 00:04:38 Canon XHA1 and Redrock (I only used it in one scene) Edited in FCP2 with color curves. I built a homemade dolly out of 36x36 plywood, angle aluminum, inline skate wheels, and pvc pipe. I hope you enjoy it and if you have feedback, please be helpful as I will definitely consider it for future projects. http://www.vimeo.com/782672 Thanks, -Josh |
March 14th, 2008, 04:52 AM | #2 |
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Nice sense of pace. I liked your overall framing and letting the action take place. Nice choice of colour grading. Did you have it on auto exposure? I got quite a bit exposure hunting from the Vimeo download. Saw this on the "morgue-corridor" section and somewhere else too.
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March 14th, 2008, 12:32 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I used an Mp4 copy for the web and the exposure hunting seemed to be more noticeable with that than my H.264 copy. I will defiantly make sure it is off next time.
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March 15th, 2008, 03:21 AM | #4 |
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I liked the framing, the use of lenses (I guess that's the redrock in the hospital), the colorcorrection. Kudo's for that! Very pro looking.
But I did not like the acting (and for that matter, the actor-directing). The main character is not played well, with little acting-cliché's hidden in his movements. (The opening and closing of his mouth when disappointed, the way he looks around him when he calls, he 'freezes' when he meets the second homeless guy in the end, etc.) I can see he's constantly aware of the camera. Maybe that's because the camera is placed too close in front of him (consider more long lenses) or there is too much crew on the set (that can distract). So, again, kudo's for the professional look, but if you had invested more in acting, it would have been much better. |
March 15th, 2008, 11:23 AM | #5 |
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I like the sentiment the video has, i live in the country so when i go to Edinburgh and am asked for change i always give them some.....gave an older guy my burger king meal that i just bought once.
The way you filmed it seems to me to be very contradicting, you obviously went to a lot of effort to set up a dolly for those nice tracking shots and get locations like the hospitol or doctors office but you also had a few shots where the camera is on a tripod an locked off for the whole shot. I think (imo) if you go to the trouble of setting up a dynamic shot like a track and dolly you should give more thought to "the simple shots" for example when he goes back to the wall where the homeless guy was standing instead of just a static shot i would have done that in two shots starting with a hand held mid shot from the chest up giving a bit of shallow depth of field and motion and then cut to a wide to show he isn't there. As for the acting don't worry about it, good actors are not easy to find for free. Andy.
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I think the wide shot was fine however i personally never stop the camera moving, my advice is use your dolly as much as you can, use it in different ways with varied speeds.
Obviously picking your shot is important but i tend to spend more time thinking about how the shots cut together, if i see a beautifull shot but can't find a way to cut it in i won't use it for the good of the film. IMO Making a film seamless so the audience is never aware of the editing is the most important part of filmmaking and its the thing that people do wrong in 90 percent of the films i watch on this site. I'll give you some basic advice that will change things for you, first you need to dump the tripod unless of course your on the dolly or are using a large still wide for dramatic effect, hand held is perfectly good and it allows you to move with the character in a more dynamic way although you need to remember to keep it level and keep it controled, never roll the camera. Then you need to cover the hell out of a shot, do the ones in the shot list then do a few more with close ups, extreme close ups and anything else that looks good on the day giving you plenty to work with in the edit suite. Thirdly and this is where most people go wrong is the editing. Editing isn't just sticking images together, the more you make films the more you will realise that every project evolves away from the original concept and that is because the editing is really where the story telling is happening. I have two basic rules when i edit and they are 1)always cut on an action and 2)never let the character completely leave the frame unless he/she is going to come back into it. Here is a promo i shot and edited to gain funding for the project. I know its quite a large file but i think it would benefit you to see what i mean by always cut on an action and never let the character leave frame. I also never used a tripod except on the dolly. http://www.box.net/shared/static/rp7see9x4s.mov Hope this in some way helps you in the regional competition and congrats on first place in the local competition. Andy.
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Your absolutely right, a bad actor will kill your film no matter how well filmed it is god knows iv worked with my fair share of terrible actors. The only thing is as i said before a good actor is very hard to come by for free. Iv held audditions where most of them had been to university and they were still bad. That says to me (although iv never tried it before ) that trying to train someone isn't going to do anything unless they are quick learners and have natural talent and you have to be very lucky to find a diamond in the rough that hasn't been noticed by agents yet and thats why at entry level filmmaking theres not much you can do about bad acting.
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