Video Innovators Shoulder Support at DVinfo.net

Garret Ambrosio · April 30th, 2003, 04:40 AM

I do know if this is the right place, (ah it will be moved anyway...) Have any of you tried using the Video Innovators shoulder support. It seems to be a good deal at 44.95 BHphoto. I was wondering if this puppy would work on the VX2K or the PD150?

Jeff Natalie · April 30th, 2003, 05:32 AM

Looks like a nice little unit for $50

Bryan Beasleigh · April 30th, 2003, 09:35 AM

A study of shoulder mounts should be camera specific. What works well for one model may not be comfortable or efficient for the others.

What's really needed is a mini review of all that's available and that's tough to do. B&H probably has more selection in stock than any other supplier yet they don't all that is available. B&H has several units from Video Innovators and they're all below $89. I had asked one of the sales people at B&H about it and he used the word "cheaply made" to describe it. The Mighty Wondercam is $179, I've seen one and for that money i wasn't impressed. The Image 2000 is $295 to $390.

Studio One sell the habby cam and that looks nice, It's also a $150 to $290 unit, but it looks to be a quality rig. Since it's not sold at the same place that sells the other brands comparison is difficult.

Zotz have the Varizoom shooter for $89, many have spoken highly of that model, they also have the pro model for $329. What's the difference as it relates to the PD150/VX2K, I'd really like to know.

Bryan Beasleigh · April 30th, 2003, 10:44 AM

The thread discussing the shoulder pod as it relates to the PD150 should have been left where it was , in the VX2k/pd150 forum. There is a marked difference between the weight and balance of a PD150 and an XL1S.

Lou Bruno · April 30th, 2003, 01:42 PM

I had one and returned it as well as a few other shoulder type brackets.

I was able to make an L-BRACKET with a foam handle. I have seen them for sale as well-I believe Studio1 has them.

Jeff Donald · April 30th, 2003, 03:03 PM

Discussions about camera support belong in the Camera Support Forum. One members recommendation as to the suitability of one device or another is subjective at best. It is up to the individual user to determine the appropriateness of different accessories and how they apply to their individual needs and circumstances.

Garret Ambrosio · May 1st, 2003, 02:25 AM

Jeff what if it is specific to a certain type of camera? Wouldn't it be easier to get the resources of people who own the cam or has knowledge of the camera? I don't know, I'm confused.

Jeff Donald · May 1st, 2003, 05:32 AM

Hi Garret,

I didn't move the thread, any of about 7 people could have moved it. Thanks for expressing your concern about the proper placement of topics within forums.

The topic concerning Video Innovators shoulder support for PD150/VX2000 is more general in nature. If you go to the manufactures site, no reference is made to the support being specific to that model. In fact the site specifically suggests that it fits many small camcorders. If the product were exclusive to the VX2000 it should be placed there. An example would be a light that fits a specific model camcorder.

The Glidecam V-8 is intended for larger, heavier cameras. It would seem appropriate to then place it in the XL1 forum. Here again, guilt by association. It is not intended solely for the XL1 and therefore is placed in the general support forum.

There are posts in the wrong forum then, move them to conform to the proper order. Wranglers moderate their own forums with little supervision. Ask Mike, nobody tells him how to run his forum. As the Super Moderators or Wardens see the posts, many are moved accordingly. If you have a question regarding a post and it's placement email the wrangler or Chris, Ken, John, Frank, Rob or myself. Any of us can move threads back and forth between forums. The use of email avoids the forum getting cluttered with administrative posts and makes browsing easier.

Bryan Beasleigh · May 1st, 2003, 11:57 AM

If there was a camera specific slant to a thread I imagine that it should be mentioned in the title header. ie "Video Innovators Shoulder support cercerns for the VX2K/PD150."

I defense of the general forum for such accessory equipment, we tend to compartmentise cameras and accesories. We may be missing out on some neat stuff. ie the Canon WD58 lens as used on a PD150/VX2K.

In my opinion, microphones, XLR adapters and optics may be better served by having a dedicated forum. There will always be exceptions to any rule but for the most part the sytem works.

April 30th, 2003, 04:40 AM	#1
Garret Ambrosio Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 263	Video Innovators Shoulder Support I do know if this is the right place, (ah it will be moved anyway...) Have any of you tried using the Video Innovators shoulder support. It seems to be a good deal at 44.95 BHphoto. I was wondering if this puppy would work on the VX2K or the PD150? __________________ "USA Today has come out with a new survey - apparently, three out of every four people make up 75% of the population." -David Letterman

April 30th, 2003, 09:35 AM	#3
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	This discussion is relevant to the VX2K/PD150 forum IMO A study of shoulder mounts should be camera specific. What works well for one model may not be comfortable or efficient for the others. What's really needed is a mini review of all that's available and that's tough to do. B&H probably has more selection in stock than any other supplier yet they don't all that is available. B&H has several units from Video Innovators and they're all below $89. I had asked one of the sales people at B&H about it and he used the word "cheaply made" to describe it. The Mighty Wondercam is $179, I've seen one and for that money i wasn't impressed. The Image 2000 is $295 to $390. Studio One sell the habby cam and that looks nice, It's also a $150 to $290 unit, but it looks to be a quality rig. Since it's not sold at the same place that sells the other brands comparison is difficult. Zotz have the Varizoom shooter for $89, many have spoken highly of that model, they also have the pro model for $329. What's the difference as it relates to the PD150/VX2K, I'd really like to know.

April 30th, 2003, 01:42 PM	#5
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	I had one and returned it as well as a few other shoulder type brackets. I was able to make an L-BRACKET with a foam handle. I have seen them for sale as well-I believe Studio1 has them. __________________ Lou Bruno

April 30th, 2003, 03:03 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Discussions about camera support belong in the Camera Support Forum. One members recommendation as to the suitability of one device or another is subjective at best. It is up to the individual user to determine the appropriateness of different accessories and how they apply to their individual needs and circumstances. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 1st, 2003, 02:25 AM	#7
Garret Ambrosio Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 263	Jeff what if it is specific to a certain type of camera? Wouldn't it be easier to get the resources of people who own the cam or has knowledge of the camera? I don't know, I'm confused. __________________ "USA Today has come out with a new survey - apparently, three out of every four people make up 75% of the population." -David Letterman

April 30th, 2003, 05:32 AM	#2
Jeff Natalie Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erie PA Posts: 29	Looks like a nice little unit for $50

April 30th, 2003, 10:44 AM	#4
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	The thread discussing the shoulder pod as it relates to the PD150 should have been left where it was , in the VX2k/pd150 forum. There is a marked difference between the weight and balance of a PD150 and an XL1S.

May 1st, 2003, 05:32 AM	#8
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Hi Garret, I didn't move the thread, any of about 7 people could have moved it. Thanks for expressing your concern about the proper placement of topics within forums. The topic concerning Video Innovators shoulder support for PD150/VX2000 is more general in nature. If you go to the manufactures site, no reference is made to the support being specific to that model. In fact the site specifically suggests that it fits many small camcorders. If the product were exclusive to the VX2000 it should be placed there. An example would be a light that fits a specific model camcorder. The Glidecam V-8 is intended for larger, heavier cameras. It would seem appropriate to then place it in the XL1 forum. Here again, guilt by association. It is not intended solely for the XL1 and therefore is placed in the general support forum. There are posts in the wrong forum then, move them to conform to the proper order. Wranglers moderate their own forums with little supervision. Ask Mike, nobody tells him how to run his forum. As the Super Moderators or Wardens see the posts, many are moved accordingly. If you have a question regarding a post and it's placement email the wrangler or Chris, Ken, John, Frank, Rob or myself. Any of us can move threads back and forth between forums. The use of email avoids the forum getting cluttered with administrative posts and makes browsing easier. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 1st, 2003, 11:57 AM	#9
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	If there was a camera specific slant to a thread I imagine that it should be mentioned in the title header. ie "Video Innovators Shoulder support cercerns for the VX2K/PD150." I defense of the general forum for such accessory equipment, we tend to compartmentise cameras and accesories. We may be missing out on some neat stuff. ie the Canon WD58 lens as used on a PD150/VX2K. In my opinion, microphones, XLR adapters and optics may be better served by having a dedicated forum. There will always be exceptions to any rule but for the most part the sytem works.