Simple question about shoulder mounts for xl1s. at DVinfo.net

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 05:32 AM

Heya, i have been using an xl1s for a while, but have to give it back now, so just about to buy my own.

I want to get a shoulder mount, i have been offered some good prices actually, but my simple question is.

I will be using this camera mostly on a tripod but will sometimes pop it up for some types of shoots.

I will be at most ever be using 2 mic's, so a multitude of inputs is not that important.

Will i see any real advantage with going from a ma100 to a ma200?

The price difference is not great at all, just wanting some ideas, as i said it most likely won't be on my shoulder for extended periods of time.

But i do want a shoulder pad/mount not a breakout box.

anyways, thanx for your help.

kermie

Jeff Donald · October 24th, 2002, 05:51 AM

The MA-300 works only with the GL-2 (and PAL counterparts). You might want to use the search function because alot has been written on this subject. The MA-200 is either loved or hated. No middle of the road on this piece. I happen to find my MA-200 very useful and it is permanently mounted to my camera. the addition of the Lightwave System Isolator make the camera a perfect shoulder mount for me (very comfortable, too). But my background is in larger shoulder mount cameras. When I worked in broadcast, the majority of my work was shoulder mount.

I find the audio to be of high quality. Even though I said I would never use 4 channel audio, once or twice I've resorted to it's use. It saved my butt big time.

Jeff

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 05:54 AM

Jeff,

so the ma100 is identical in form but only has 2 connectors, or is a smaller unit as well?

I have come from a slightly different background than you i guess. I come from a studio background all tripod mounted, big monitors and not touching the audio at all, as you guessed i was a key camera operator for a studio based comedy show here in australia for 2 seasons.

Anyways,

kermie

Jeff Donald · October 24th, 2002, 06:09 AM

The MA-100 is slightly smaller because it only accomodates 2 channels of audio, instead of 4 on the MA-200. I now do the majority of my work tripod mounted also. But occasionaly a client will want that hand held look. I don't do any event type work. Event people are usually looking for the bigger shoulder braces. Shoulder braces have been covered a lot in the last few weeks. Just look a little below this topic and you'll see several threads.

Canon shows them side by side here http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/a_audio_access.html The form factor is a little different. Another big advantage is the abillity to mount two batteries at the same time. This also allows use to swap out discharged batteries without shutting down.

Jeff

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 06:13 AM

Thanx, excellent response,

that thing about the batteries sold me!

ma-200 it is.

thanx

kermie

Jeff Donald · October 24th, 2002, 06:34 AM

The MA-200 requires the CH-910 to do the 2 batteries http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/a_power_adapt.html It also charges 2 batteries in sequence. It is a very nice accesory and mounts perfectly to either the MA-100 or 200.

Jeff

Zac Stein · October 24th, 2002, 06:52 AM

thanks jeff,

wow it is amazing, if you buy one thing you always to buy something else.

I think it is a bit sly and unfortunate too... they really should build all in one solutions.

kermie

October 24th, 2002, 05:32 AM	#1
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Simple question about shoulder mounts for xl1s. Heya, i have been using an xl1s for a while, but have to give it back now, so just about to buy my own. I want to get a shoulder mount, i have been offered some good prices actually, but my simple question is. I will be using this camera mostly on a tripod but will sometimes pop it up for some types of shoots. I will be at most ever be using 2 mic's, so a multitude of inputs is not that important. Will i see any real advantage with going from a ma100 to a ma200? The price difference is not great at all, just wanting some ideas, as i said it most likely won't be on my shoulder for extended periods of time. But i do want a shoulder pad/mount not a breakout box. anyways, thanx for your help. kermie

October 24th, 2002, 05:51 AM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The MA-300 works only with the GL-2 (and PAL counterparts). You might want to use the search function because alot has been written on this subject. The MA-200 is either loved or hated. No middle of the road on this piece. I happen to find my MA-200 very useful and it is permanently mounted to my camera. the addition of the Lightwave System Isolator make the camera a perfect shoulder mount for me (very comfortable, too). But my background is in larger shoulder mount cameras. When I worked in broadcast, the majority of my work was shoulder mount. I find the audio to be of high quality. Even though I said I would never use 4 channel audio, once or twice I've resorted to it's use. It saved my butt big time. Jeff

October 24th, 2002, 05:54 AM	#3
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Jeff, so the ma100 is identical in form but only has 2 connectors, or is a smaller unit as well? I have come from a slightly different background than you i guess. I come from a studio background all tripod mounted, big monitors and not touching the audio at all, as you guessed i was a key camera operator for a studio based comedy show here in australia for 2 seasons. Anyways, kermie

October 24th, 2002, 06:09 AM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The MA-100 is slightly smaller because it only accomodates 2 channels of audio, instead of 4 on the MA-200. I now do the majority of my work tripod mounted also. But occasionaly a client will want that hand held look. I don't do any event type work. Event people are usually looking for the bigger shoulder braces. Shoulder braces have been covered a lot in the last few weeks. Just look a little below this topic and you'll see several threads. Canon shows them side by side here http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/a_audio_access.html The form factor is a little different. Another big advantage is the abillity to mount two batteries at the same time. This also allows use to swap out discharged batteries without shutting down. Jeff

October 24th, 2002, 06:13 AM	#5
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Thanx, excellent response, that thing about the batteries sold me! ma-200 it is. thanx kermie

October 24th, 2002, 06:34 AM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The MA-200 requires the CH-910 to do the 2 batteries http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/a_power_adapt.html It also charges 2 batteries in sequence. It is a very nice accesory and mounts perfectly to either the MA-100 or 200. Jeff

October 24th, 2002, 06:52 AM	#7
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	thanks jeff, wow it is amazing, if you buy one thing you always to buy something else. I think it is a bit sly and unfortunate too... they really should build all in one solutions. kermie