Shoulder Mount EX Next? 2

Phil Bloom · July 5th, 2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Noa Put

Another question Phil, I noticed by looking at the images of that mount that it doesn't seem to have some kind of tripod head on top but it looks like the camera is in a fixed position, is that so?
If that is the case then the camera movement possibilities of this rig would be very limited.

Same as el cheapo.

You you tilt and pan like it is on your shoulder

Piotr Wozniacki · July 5th, 2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

Same as el cheapo.

You you tilt and pan like it is on your shoulder

Don't quite get you, Phil. With El Cheapo, you need to bow in order for the camera to tilt, while with a camera that "is on your shoulder", you can rock it on the shoulder...Quite a difference!

I guess you have to bow/straighten up with this new mount; if I'm mistaken please enlighten me!

Phil Bloom · July 5th, 2008, 08:48 AM

maybe I have spindly shoulders but it is loose enough to tilt on my shoulder.

Piotr Wozniacki · July 5th, 2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

maybe I have spindly shoulders but it is loose enough to tilt on my shoulder.

Well, I guess it's more a matter of exceptionally soft abdomen, where the support is working against while you rock the mount on your shoulder:)

Mine is just too hard for this technique to work; too much beer recently!

Phil Bloom · July 5th, 2008, 09:06 AM

yeah my six pack isn't quite there

i have nice natural padding that absorbs natural shocks and jolts

Piotr Wozniacki · July 5th, 2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

yeah my six pack isn't quite there

i have nice natural padding that absorbs natural shocks and jolts

Aha! Now I see why you never recognized breathing as a thread in using El Cheapo successfully!

Michael Wisniewski · July 21st, 2008, 10:33 AM

Phil, thanks to you, mine just arrived today, and I'm really liking it. Running around with an XH A1 to test it out. It's has a very good feel and makes the Canon XH A1 feel very comfortable shoulder mounted. I think this will be my go to shoulder mount from now on. The DVMultiRig will be relegated to it's more unique configurations. Thanks for letting us know about this!

David Cheok · July 22nd, 2008, 06:38 AM

This little gizmo solved my problems...

Every bit is customisable. However, as someone said here earlier, there is an issue with vertical movements. Lateral movement is fine as it has a 'fluid head' mounted on the pivot. So.. to solve the verticals, I mounted a manfrotto mini-tilt adapter (http://www.cameraworld.co.uk/images/...34RC%20250.jpg) and now, i can pan, tilt everything..

Now.. just wondering if a ball head can fit on this thing...

This thing is heavy btw.. the entire front end is all metal..

John Woo · August 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320265061193

Any EX1 users out there bought this? If yes, would like to hear your comment.

Brian Rhodes · August 8th, 2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Woo

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320265061193

Any EX1 users out there bought this? If yes, would like to hear your comment.

Heavy... but good balance..I plan to modify the brace when I get time.

Fred Tims · August 8th, 2008, 07:10 AM

Make that VERY heavy. Like most, it is designed for those who use the LCD screen. It is not user friendly for those that might want to look into the viewfinder. Quite the bargain, though.

John Woo · August 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM

how's the built? metal or plastic feel? Will the bracket moves along with your breathing?

Dave Morrison · August 8th, 2008, 09:20 AM

Holy cripes that thing would have to be heavy! Whatever amount of weight that hangs in front of your shoulder blade would have to be equally added to the back. My shoulder is starting to ache just thinking about it.

Gints Klimanis · August 8th, 2008, 01:01 PM

If you're worried about arm fatigue, the DV MultiRig and other products are much lighter and transfer the weight of the camcorder to your hip. The plus side is that the MultiRig folds into a tight package. Admittedly, the belt and assembly require a few minutes, and the downside is that low altitude shots are limited by the height of the suspension. This is an issue for us in indoor mixed martial arts in which the action goes to the floor. For that reason, I switched to the VSB-1. I can see your draw to a $65 brace, but I now prefer the flexibility of the Vortex Media VSB-1 .
http://www.vortexmedia.com/EX1DVD/VSB1.html

You can add whatever counter weight you like, including useful counterweight such as a field recorder, accessory batteries, etc.

Fred Tims · August 9th, 2008, 08:26 AM

It is metal. It is rock solid. But, it is very heavy. That's why it works so well.
If you are going handheld all day, look elsewhere. Otherwise it is fine.

July 5th, 2008, 08:48 AM	#33
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July 5th, 2008, 09:06 AM	#35
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July 21st, 2008, 10:33 AM	#37
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Phil, thanks to you, mine just arrived today, and I'm really liking it. Running around with an XH A1 to test it out. It's has a very good feel and makes the Canon XH A1 feel very comfortable shoulder mounted. I think this will be my go to shoulder mount from now on. The DVMultiRig will be relegated to it's more unique configurations. Thanks for letting us know about this! __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

August 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM	#39
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	Comment on this $65 Shoulder Brace http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320265061193 Any EX1 users out there bought this? If yes, would like to hear your comment.

August 8th, 2008, 09:20 AM	#43
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	Holy cripes that thing would have to be heavy! Whatever amount of weight that hangs in front of your shoulder blade would have to be equally added to the back. My shoulder is starting to ache just thinking about it. __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

July 22nd, 2008, 06:38 AM	#38
David Cheok Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan Posts: 38	This little gizmo solved my problems... Every bit is customisable. However, as someone said here earlier, there is an issue with vertical movements. Lateral movement is fine as it has a 'fluid head' mounted on the pivot. So.. to solve the verticals, I mounted a manfrotto mini-tilt adapter (http://www.cameraworld.co.uk/images/...34RC%20250.jpg) and now, i can pan, tilt everything.. Now.. just wondering if a ball head can fit on this thing... This thing is heavy btw.. the entire front end is all metal..

August 8th, 2008, 07:10 AM	#41
Fred Tims Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 82	Make that VERY heavy. Like most, it is designed for those who use the LCD screen. It is not user friendly for those that might want to look into the viewfinder. Quite the bargain, though.

August 8th, 2008, 07:12 AM	#42
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	how's the built? metal or plastic feel? Will the bracket moves along with your breathing?

August 8th, 2008, 01:01 PM	#44
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	If you're worried about arm fatigue, the DV MultiRig and other products are much lighter and transfer the weight of the camcorder to your hip. The plus side is that the MultiRig folds into a tight package. Admittedly, the belt and assembly require a few minutes, and the downside is that low altitude shots are limited by the height of the suspension. This is an issue for us in indoor mixed martial arts in which the action goes to the floor. For that reason, I switched to the VSB-1. I can see your draw to a $65 brace, but I now prefer the flexibility of the Vortex Media VSB-1 . http://www.vortexmedia.com/EX1DVD/VSB1.html You can add whatever counter weight you like, including useful counterweight such as a field recorder, accessory batteries, etc.

August 9th, 2008, 08:26 AM	#45
Fred Tims Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 82	It is metal. It is rock solid. But, it is very heavy. That's why it works so well. If you are going handheld all day, look elsewhere. Otherwise it is fine.