What editing books are you reading? at DVinfo.net

Jessica Gourdine · January 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM

Or what have u read, that helps enhance your editing skills? I want to learn as much as I can, and although I know most experience comes through trial and error, I want to minimize the latter as much as possible. I'm a beginner when it comes to final cut and photoshop, and remember very little about after effects since I haven't used it in so long, so I want to know what books AND training videos have helped you along the way.

Right now I do mostly weddings and assemble rough cuts for commercials at my church, but I want to be able to make them better and complete a commercial opposed to waiting on someone else to add in graphics, for example, and I want to be prepared to branch out into other arenas (commercials outside of church, short films, etc).

Thanks for your input!

Jessica

Carl Middleton · January 24th, 2008, 05:43 PM

If you've used After Effects before, and want to learn to do motion graphics.... GET BACK IN THERE! :)

videocopilot.net has some great tutorials... AE is one of the best tools for pro motion graphics, it's not the quickest to build with but it's definitely one of the most powerful. Read the manual and look at tutorials is the best advice I can give.

Carl

Dom Stevenson · January 24th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Jessica,

"In the blink of an eye" Walter Murch

"Final Cut Pro 6" Diana Weynand (peachpitt press)

"Sound and Design: the expressive power of music, voice, and sound effects in cinema. David Sonnenschein.

"On Editing" Edward Dmytryk

There's a good mix. I'll have a think and perhaps ad a couple more titles later.

Dom

Nate Schmidt · January 24th, 2008, 06:41 PM

As far as training, check out Lynda.com... you can subscribe and then get access to all their training videos on all the different apps.

Dom Stevenson · January 25th, 2008, 02:33 AM

Oh Yeah, the Lynda.com site is something of an Aladdin's cave if you've got time on your hands to get your moneys worth. The Ripple training stuff is also very good. Andrew Balis's colour correction DVD for Ripple is pricey but worth every penny. The best training DVD i've seen to date.

Paul South · January 25th, 2008, 03:16 AM

Check out The Technique of Film Editing by Karl Reisz. It's an older book, from the 60's I believe, but it is often called the bible of film editing. Of course it won't teach you newer things relating to the digital age, but it covers the basic techniques that have remained for years.

Nate Benson · January 25th, 2008, 08:26 AM

Shake 4, PeachPit

Everything you always wanted to know about Lucan (but were afraid to ask Hitchcock)- Slavoj Žižek

Martin Pauly · January 25th, 2008, 09:39 AM

Another vote for lynda.com, a great collection of tutorials. I especially like the ability to learn a little bit about software BEFORE I purchase it, to better see whether it does what I need and can support my workflow.

As far as books go, to add to the list:
Apple Pro Training Series: Encyclopedia of Visual Effects

And let's not forget about audio:
Producing Great Sound for Digital Video and
Audio Postproduction for Digital Video
(both by Jay Rose)

- Martin

Jessica Gourdine · January 25th, 2008, 09:59 AM

Thanks for the replies everyone. I want to have the technical aspects down but I know it's not always about knowing what button to push. I want to be able to tell a great story also. All of your suggestions have been great. I actually have Final Cut Pro 6 by Diana Weynand for an editing class. It's been great.

Don't stop now, keep em coming!!! :-)

Bob Kerner · January 26th, 2008, 12:21 PM

The operator's guide! Not to be a smart arse, but I've found the FCP instruction manual pretty helpful, particularly if you sit with it while working and try the techniques in real-time.

I also found the David Pogue book on Imovie helpful. Yes, this is the FCP forum, but I find this book worthwhile when my brain is overloaded: the simple style helps me understand the more complicated techniques in the FCP manual.

I've also taken to watching a lot of documentaries and public television. It helps me understand why/how pros edit the way they do. The mechanics aren't that difficult, it's knowing when to apply them.

Cheers,

January 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM	#1
Jessica Gourdine Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Carolina, US Posts: 35	What editing books are you reading? Or what have u read, that helps enhance your editing skills? I want to learn as much as I can, and although I know most experience comes through trial and error, I want to minimize the latter as much as possible. I'm a beginner when it comes to final cut and photoshop, and remember very little about after effects since I haven't used it in so long, so I want to know what books AND training videos have helped you along the way. Right now I do mostly weddings and assemble rough cuts for commercials at my church, but I want to be able to make them better and complete a commercial opposed to waiting on someone else to add in graphics, for example, and I want to be prepared to branch out into other arenas (commercials outside of church, short films, etc). Thanks for your input! Jessica

January 24th, 2008, 05:43 PM	#2
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	If you've used After Effects before, and want to learn to do motion graphics.... GET BACK IN THERE! :) videocopilot.net has some great tutorials... AE is one of the best tools for pro motion graphics, it's not the quickest to build with but it's definitely one of the most powerful. Read the manual and look at tutorials is the best advice I can give. Carl __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

January 24th, 2008, 06:41 PM	#4
Nate Schmidt Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Welland ON Posts: 515	As far as training, check out Lynda.com... you can subscribe and then get access to all their training videos on all the different apps. __________________ "We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

January 25th, 2008, 09:39 AM	#8
Martin Pauly Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 563	Another vote for lynda.com, a great collection of tutorials. I especially like the ability to learn a little bit about software BEFORE I purchase it, to better see whether it does what I need and can support my workflow. As far as books go, to add to the list: Apple Pro Training Series: Encyclopedia of Visual Effects And let's not forget about audio: Producing Great Sound for Digital Video and Audio Postproduction for Digital Video (both by Jay Rose) - Martin __________________ Martin Pauly

January 24th, 2008, 05:50 PM	#3
Dom Stevenson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 430	Jessica, "In the blink of an eye" Walter Murch "Final Cut Pro 6" Diana Weynand (peachpitt press) "Sound and Design: the expressive power of music, voice, and sound effects in cinema. David Sonnenschein. "On Editing" Edward Dmytryk There's a good mix. I'll have a think and perhaps ad a couple more titles later. Dom

January 25th, 2008, 02:33 AM	#5
Dom Stevenson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 430	Oh Yeah, the Lynda.com site is something of an Aladdin's cave if you've got time on your hands to get your moneys worth. The Ripple training stuff is also very good. Andrew Balis's colour correction DVD for Ripple is pricey but worth every penny. The best training DVD i've seen to date.

January 25th, 2008, 03:16 AM	#6
Paul South New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 19	Check out The Technique of Film Editing by Karl Reisz. It's an older book, from the 60's I believe, but it is often called the bible of film editing. Of course it won't teach you newer things relating to the digital age, but it covers the basic techniques that have remained for years.

January 25th, 2008, 08:26 AM	#7
Nate Benson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 157	Shake 4, PeachPit Everything you always wanted to know about Lucan (but were afraid to ask Hitchcock)- Slavoj Žižek

January 25th, 2008, 09:59 AM	#9
Jessica Gourdine Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Carolina, US Posts: 35	Thanks for the replies everyone. I want to have the technical aspects down but I know it's not always about knowing what button to push. I want to be able to tell a great story also. All of your suggestions have been great. I actually have Final Cut Pro 6 by Diana Weynand for an editing class. It's been great. Don't stop now, keep em coming!!! :-)

January 26th, 2008, 12:21 PM	#10
Bob Kerner Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York Posts: 388	The operator's guide! Not to be a smart arse, but I've found the FCP instruction manual pretty helpful, particularly if you sit with it while working and try the techniques in real-time. I also found the David Pogue book on Imovie helpful. Yes, this is the FCP forum, but I find this book worthwhile when my brain is overloaded: the simple style helps me understand the more complicated techniques in the FCP manual. I've also taken to watching a lot of documentaries and public television. It helps me understand why/how pros edit the way they do. The mechanics aren't that difficult, it's knowing when to apply them. Cheers,