Question about Tota Lights at DVinfo.net

Kevin Lewis · January 30th, 2013, 08:51 AM

I've been shooting under a controlled enviroment with the tota kit for the last few years. I now need to take it on the road. The shoot will be a mixture of daylight and my Tota's, which means I will have to gel them. Unfourtuneatly, you cant use the umbrellas and the gel kit at the same time. What are my options for difusing the light considering how hot those lights get?

Steven Digges · January 30th, 2013, 10:06 AM

Bounce them. Totas are so damn bright I light scenes with them, I rarely light subjects with them. If I have to use them for subjects I bounce them off of a white surface. That is usually reflectors on a c-stand but it can also be walls or ceilings. If you do not have reflectors to use the old low budget standby works fine. That is sheets of foam core from the office supply store.

Steve

Kevin Lewis · January 30th, 2013, 10:29 AM

Tota's can give great light for subjects as long as you use the correct bulb. I normaly use a 500 watt bulb for a1 person interview. I prefer not to bounce the light as I want the softer look that the umbrella gives.

Steven Digges · January 30th, 2013, 01:39 PM

I prefer my Riffas. Bounced light can be much softer than an umbrella, it all depends on how you do it.

Steve

Evan Bourcier · January 30th, 2013, 01:43 PM

+1 to bounce. Unless you're bouncing it off a handheld mirror a wall is a way bigger lightsource than an umbrella, so automatically softer light ;)

Les Wilson · January 30th, 2013, 10:44 PM

Chimera and Photoflex both make soft boxes for the Tota. You need a speed ring to attach them to the Tota. You then gel the softbox. But for about the same price, you may find the Rifa EX a better system for mobile lighting. The EX system lefts you change sockets between tungsten and flo.

Softboxes let you control the light and put more of it on your subject compared to blasting it on a wall or ceiling. Also, a good softbox lets you add egg crates which further help control spill. YMMV

Sara Jourhmane · January 31st, 2013, 05:04 PM

I wonder if tota can be bounced off these Elinchrom blue umbrellas?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/206467-REG/Elinchrom_EL_26380_Umbrella_Blue.html

Oren Arieli · January 31st, 2013, 06:33 PM

Unless you're not worried about lighting your room as bright as your subject, I'm not a big fan of bounced lights for interviews. You'll have a bear of a time controlling spill unless you also want to start packing a large flag kit. You can get nice soft light, but if you're going for a more dramatic look, or trying to tone down a distracting background, I'd suggest a softbox that you can grid.
If you have a portable 5-in-1 type reflector, you can throw a large CTB through it (silk diffuser). It will knock the light down quite a bit, but you'll have soft daylight balanced key or fill.

Phill Pendleton · January 31st, 2013, 06:43 PM

I've used a blue umbrella for years with my totas, love it! Fast to set up and pack away. Matches daylight well.

Kevin Lewis · January 31st, 2013, 09:45 PM

Sara, thanks for the link, that may be a good option.

Kevin Lewis · January 31st, 2013, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phill Pendleton

I've used a blue umbrella for years with my totas, love it! Fast to set up and pack away. Matches daylight well.

Phil is the color temperture accurate with these umbrellas? Also, can the stand up to the heat of the totas?

Phill Pendleton · January 31st, 2013, 11:46 PM

Been using the same blue umbrella for 7 years, had one small burn when the light was knocked over and was pushed hard up to the umbrella. As with all my umbrellas, don't mount them too close, usually have 2cms (1") of the shaft sticking out the back of the light.
Matches daylight quite well (although may vary between brands). When using it as a key I always white balance under it.
I even use it indoors when no daylight present, gives a real warm glow to tungsten pracs (lamps) in the background.

January 30th, 2013, 08:51 AM	#1
Kevin Lewis Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Philadelphia, pa Posts: 705	Question about Tota Lights I've been shooting under a controlled enviroment with the tota kit for the last few years. I now need to take it on the road. The shoot will be a mixture of daylight and my Tota's, which means I will have to gel them. Unfourtuneatly, you cant use the umbrellas and the gel kit at the same time. What are my options for difusing the light considering how hot those lights get?

January 30th, 2013, 10:06 AM	#2
Steven Digges Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,828	Re: Question about Tota Lights Bounce them. Totas are so damn bright I light scenes with them, I rarely light subjects with them. If I have to use them for subjects I bounce them off of a white surface. That is usually reflectors on a c-stand but it can also be walls or ceilings. If you do not have reflectors to use the old low budget standby works fine. That is sheets of foam core from the office supply store. Steve __________________ www.CorporateShow.com Been at this so long I'm rounding my years of experience down...not up!

January 30th, 2013, 10:29 AM	#3
Kevin Lewis Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Philadelphia, pa Posts: 705	Re: Question about Tota Lights Tota's can give great light for subjects as long as you use the correct bulb. I normaly use a 500 watt bulb for a1 person interview. I prefer not to bounce the light as I want the softer look that the umbrella gives.

January 30th, 2013, 01:39 PM	#4
Steven Digges Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,828	Re: Question about Tota Lights I prefer my Riffas. Bounced light can be much softer than an umbrella, it all depends on how you do it. Steve __________________ www.CorporateShow.com Been at this so long I'm rounding my years of experience down...not up!

January 30th, 2013, 01:43 PM	#5
Evan Bourcier Major Player Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mashpee, MA Posts: 251	Re: Question about Tota Lights +1 to bounce. Unless you're bouncing it off a handheld mirror a wall is a way bigger lightsource than an umbrella, so automatically softer light ;) __________________ DSLR Photographer/Videographer from Massachusetts Portfolio at http://ebourcier.com

January 30th, 2013, 10:44 PM	#6
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: Question about Tota Lights Chimera and Photoflex both make soft boxes for the Tota. You need a speed ring to attach them to the Tota. You then gel the softbox. But for about the same price, you may find the Rifa EX a better system for mobile lighting. The EX system lefts you change sockets between tungsten and flo. Softboxes let you control the light and put more of it on your subject compared to blasting it on a wall or ceiling. Also, a good softbox lets you add egg crates which further help control spill. YMMV

January 31st, 2013, 05:04 PM	#7
Sara Jourhmane Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 37	Re: Question about Tota Lights I wonder if tota can be bounced off these Elinchrom blue umbrellas? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/206467-REG/Elinchrom_EL_26380_Umbrella_Blue.html

January 31st, 2013, 06:33 PM	#8
Oren Arieli Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 919	Re: Question about Tota Lights Unless you're not worried about lighting your room as bright as your subject, I'm not a big fan of bounced lights for interviews. You'll have a bear of a time controlling spill unless you also want to start packing a large flag kit. You can get nice soft light, but if you're going for a more dramatic look, or trying to tone down a distracting background, I'd suggest a softbox that you can grid. If you have a portable 5-in-1 type reflector, you can throw a large CTB through it (silk diffuser). It will knock the light down quite a bit, but you'll have soft daylight balanced key or fill.

January 31st, 2013, 06:43 PM	#9
Phill Pendleton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia NSW Posts: 71	Re: Question about Tota Lights I've used a blue umbrella for years with my totas, love it! Fast to set up and pack away. Matches daylight well.

January 31st, 2013, 09:45 PM	#10
Kevin Lewis Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Philadelphia, pa Posts: 705	Re: Question about Tota Lights Sara, thanks for the link, that may be a good option.

January 31st, 2013, 11:46 PM	#12
Phill Pendleton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia NSW Posts: 71	Re: Question about Tota Lights Been using the same blue umbrella for 7 years, had one small burn when the light was knocked over and was pushed hard up to the umbrella. As with all my umbrellas, don't mount them too close, usually have 2cms (1") of the shaft sticking out the back of the light. Matches daylight quite well (although may vary between brands). When using it as a key I always white balance under it. I even use it indoors when no daylight present, gives a real warm glow to tungsten pracs (lamps) in the background.