96 led light

Chris Barcellos · August 24th, 2010, 11:45 AM

I bought two of the 96 light units. I used them for first time in a blue screen situation, that was less than ideal, of an entry in the Canon "Beyond the Still". In all the interior shots, I used the two lights to light the actors. The blue screens were lit with common household daylight flo bulbs. I had a some issue with keying, and would have preferred green screen, but I used what we had.

Here is link to film as posted at Vimeo.

Chapter7: Reunion - The Story Beyond The Still on Vimeo

Bryan McCullough · August 24th, 2010, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Wheeler

If you're working under the misapprehension that a LED is a LED is a LED then you'd be right. Why bother? But LED functionality is all over the map and perhaps (I most certainly do not know) the LEDs used in the 600up light are less powerful (individually) then the LEDs used in the 96up light.

For what it's worth.

Well, the 600 would have to be SIGNIFICANTLY worse than 6 96s for me to want to deal with all that additional hassle.

To each his own, but I try and not make things more complex than they need to be. I'm getting tired already of juggling batteries with two 96s.

Nicholas de Kock · August 27th, 2010, 01:25 AM

My two Z96's arrived yesterday from Hong Kong, 11 days after I ordered them from Gadget.brando.com. I will be doing a shoot-out between the Sony HVL-20DW2, Litepanel Micro Pro & Z96 LED this weekend and post my results here. My first impressions of these lights are very good, judging from eye the Z96 is much brighter than the Sony HVL-20DW2. Value for money is incredible @ $67 you can afford to have six of them.

Ken Plotin · September 30th, 2010, 11:28 AM

I was at DV EXPO in L.A. yesterday (Wed.) and a booth (I won't mention their name to protect the greedy) was selling this same $70.00 Z96 light for $200.00 as a "show special" instead of their "regular" $249.00 price.Yeah, right.
It's as though some retailers think that potential customers don't do any online research before buying a video product. Particularly one at 3+ times the price and calling it a "special". Silly me, I thought only pharmaceutical companies were allowed that kind of obscene markup. Makes me really appreciate the info in this forum.
End price gouging rant.
Ken

Michael Liebergot · September 30th, 2010, 02:29 PM

I know exactly who you're talking about.

However, this isn't anything new. As much of what many manufacturers are selling are simply re-branded copies of products form China, especially LED lighting. As much of the cutting edge LED technology is being developed and manufactured in China.

Taky Cheung · September 30th, 2010, 03:24 PM

We also imported this Z96 LED light to resell in the US. There're import duty taxed, and cost to provide domestic warranty and fast shipping. So my price is higher.. but it's not like $249 or $269 (that'll be really good profit =). This product is made popular by the internet community (DVinfo forum, cheesy cam...). Words spread around quick =)

If someone can wait for 2 to 3 weeks (without tracking number) or don't care about domestic warranty, eBay price is unbeatable.

Gary San Angel · October 1st, 2010, 08:41 PM

Can someone recommend which ebay seller would be reliable to use? There's so many to choose from I want to make sure I go with someone who has a good reputation, communication, and sells a light that will be in good condition when I open it. I don't mind waiting so ebay route is okay.

Thanks in advance!

Nicholas de Kock · October 3rd, 2010, 12:38 PM

Gary I bought mine from Gadget.brando.com took 11 days to arrive. Shipped all the way to South Africa.

Jeff Anselmo · October 6th, 2010, 01:14 PM

Hi Gary,

I didn't buy my Z96 from ebay, though I could've saved a few dollars. Instead, I bought mine (plus an extra battery and charger) from Taky, as I wanted an assurance/warranty it'd work:

HDV-Z96 LED Photo/Video Light Kit | L.A. Color Shop

Of course, I got it for a bit less, as he had an introductory price :)

But looks like you can't beat the price from Gadget.brando.com

Best,

Bob Grant · October 7th, 2010, 05:38 AM

Gary,
I just bought two from the cheapest eBay vendor I could find. Mostly these seem to be sold by vendors with high sales volume. They don't want bad feedback to ruin their ratings and hence cashflow. On the other hand clearly their margins are low so don't expect stellar after sales service. Keep in mind as mentioned earlier in this thread you could easily have paid a 300% markup on these. You want good after sales service then you have to pay for it, in the markup. With such cheap items I prefer to take my chances. The probability of scoring a dud on low cost mass produced items is very low.

Bob Grant · October 11th, 2010, 06:03 PM

These must be very popular all of a sudden. I went to buy another six from the same vendor and he'd upped the price to nearly double despite the improvement in the AUD.
Not to worry, plenty more vendors out there, well for the moment.

Marcus Martell · November 15th, 2010, 04:28 PM

Hola, u convicted me in buying this led light. I live in Eu, hoping to not spend too much money in customs fees......
Question: For interview like 3 point lighting, do you think i could achieve a good result with a couple of them?

thx
And post Video-examples please!

Kelly Olsen · November 25th, 2010, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Rogers

I too bought one of these little lights after reading everyone's thoughts on them. Mine arrived today via US Mail. First off, for $70 its not bad. I decided to run a few tests to see where it is color balance, color temperature and output wise. I used a Minolta IIIf color meter, Sekonic L558 and a B&S flicker meter (first version). Measurements were made in a darkened household room.

Out of the box at 1 meter, with 100asa and 1/60s exposure, the reading for output was F1.4.
Color temperature was 6950K, LB +38 and CC 18m. Basically meaning, too blue and too green.

I then cut a piece of Gamo 106 minus green gel and a piece of Rosco 3410 CTO. The results are below.

Gamo 106 only. Color temp 6410K, LB +26, CC 4m, output is now F1.0 + 8/10.

Gamo 106 and Rosco 3410. Color temp 5510K LB 0, CC 4m, output is now F1.0 + 5/10.

WIth both filters in place I have lost 1/2 stop of light, but my color balance is much improved.
Next I add the supplied 3200k filter.

Supplied 3200k filter and Gamo106. Color temp 3430, LB +21, CC 9m, output is F .7 + 4/10
Supplied 3200k filter, Gamo 106 and Rosco 3410. Color temp 3150k, LB -5, CC 9m, output is F .7 + 3/10.

Flicker at full power is 2-3%. At 1/2 power also 2-3%. At the dimmest setting flicker is 12-13%.

For $70 plus the additional gels its not a bad little light. The build quality is decent, you can power it from AA batteries, a Sony NP style battery or an external power source. I plan on buying several more.

David Rogers
Nashvegas

What is a Gamo 106? I'm guessing that it is a minus green filter maybe made by Gam Products but there is no reference to a Gamo 106 on their site (that I can find). If it is a minus green filter, do you know if it is 1/8 or 1/4, 1/2, etc?

Thanks.

David Rogers · November 25th, 2010, 08:01 PM

Kelly if you go to the Gamo site, 106 is labeled "antique rose" or 1/2 minus green. This just happened to be what my local theatrical lighting shop had. I would imagine Lee or Roscoe would have something similar. Having a color temp meter just made it easier. I took a light and the meter to the shop and they just brought out several gels. I tried out with them until I found a close working gel pack.

David Rogers

August 24th, 2010, 11:45 AM	#91
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	I bought two of the 96 light units. I used them for first time in a blue screen situation, that was less than ideal, of an entry in the Canon "Beyond the Still". In all the interior shots, I used the two lights to light the actors. The blue screens were lit with common household daylight flo bulbs. I had a some issue with keying, and would have preferred green screen, but I used what we had. Here is link to film as posted at Vimeo. Chapter7: Reunion - The Story Beyond The Still on Vimeo __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

September 30th, 2010, 02:29 PM	#95
Michael Liebergot Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,505	I know exactly who you're talking about. However, this isn't anything new. As much of what many manufacturers are selling are simply re-branded copies of products form China, especially LED lighting. As much of the cutting edge LED technology is being developed and manufactured in China. __________________ Michael www.lvpvideo.com

September 30th, 2010, 03:24 PM	#96
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	We also imported this Z96 LED light to resell in the US. There're import duty taxed, and cost to provide domestic warranty and fast shipping. So my price is higher.. but it's not like $249 or $269 (that'll be really good profit =). This product is made popular by the internet community (DVinfo forum, cheesy cam...). Words spread around quick =) If someone can wait for 2 to 3 weeks (without tracking number) or don't care about domestic warranty, eBay price is unbeatable. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

October 6th, 2010, 01:14 PM	#99
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Gary, I didn't buy my Z96 from ebay, though I could've saved a few dollars. Instead, I bought mine (plus an extra battery and charger) from Taky, as I wanted an assurance/warranty it'd work: HDV-Z96 LED Photo/Video Light Kit \| L.A. Color Shop Of course, I got it for a bit less, as he had an introductory price :) But looks like you can't beat the price from Gadget.brando.com Best, __________________ --JA

November 25th, 2010, 08:01 PM	#104
David Rogers Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nashvegas, TN Posts: 79	96 led Kelly if you go to the Gamo site, 106 is labeled "antique rose" or 1/2 minus green. This just happened to be what my local theatrical lighting shop had. I would imagine Lee or Roscoe would have something similar. Having a color temp meter just made it easier. I took a light and the meter to the shop and they just brought out several gels. I tried out with them until I found a close working gel pack. David Rogers

August 27th, 2010, 01:25 AM	#93
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	My two Z96's arrived yesterday from Hong Kong, 11 days after I ordered them from Gadget.brando.com. I will be doing a shoot-out between the Sony HVL-20DW2, Litepanel Micro Pro & Z96 LED this weekend and post my results here. My first impressions of these lights are very good, judging from eye the Z96 is much brighter than the Sony HVL-20DW2. Value for money is incredible @ $67 you can afford to have six of them.

September 30th, 2010, 11:28 AM	#94
Ken Plotin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 254	I was at DV EXPO in L.A. yesterday (Wed.) and a booth (I won't mention their name to protect the greedy) was selling this same $70.00 Z96 light for $200.00 as a "show special" instead of their "regular" $249.00 price.Yeah, right. It's as though some retailers think that potential customers don't do any online research before buying a video product. Particularly one at 3+ times the price and calling it a "special". Silly me, I thought only pharmaceutical companies were allowed that kind of obscene markup. Makes me really appreciate the info in this forum. End price gouging rant. Ken

October 1st, 2010, 08:41 PM	#97
Gary San Angel New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 16	Can someone recommend which ebay seller would be reliable to use? There's so many to choose from I want to make sure I go with someone who has a good reputation, communication, and sells a light that will be in good condition when I open it. I don't mind waiting so ebay route is okay. Thanks in advance!

October 3rd, 2010, 12:38 PM	#98
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	Gary I bought mine from Gadget.brando.com took 11 days to arrive. Shipped all the way to South Africa.

October 7th, 2010, 05:38 AM	#100
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	Gary, I just bought two from the cheapest eBay vendor I could find. Mostly these seem to be sold by vendors with high sales volume. They don't want bad feedback to ruin their ratings and hence cashflow. On the other hand clearly their margins are low so don't expect stellar after sales service. Keep in mind as mentioned earlier in this thread you could easily have paid a 300% markup on these. You want good after sales service then you have to pay for it, in the markup. With such cheap items I prefer to take my chances. The probability of scoring a dud on low cost mass produced items is very low.

October 11th, 2010, 06:03 PM	#101
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	These must be very popular all of a sudden. I went to buy another six from the same vendor and he'd upped the price to nearly double despite the improvement in the AUD. Not to worry, plenty more vendors out there, well for the moment.

November 15th, 2010, 04:28 PM	#102
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Hola, u convicted me in buying this led light. I live in Eu, hoping to not spend too much money in customs fees...... Question: For interview like 3 point lighting, do you think i could achieve a good result with a couple of them? thx And post Video-examples please!