New LED from Switronix at DVinfo.net

Randy Johnson · November 29th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Anyone see this?
Switronix | Torchled TL-88 Dimmable 5600K LED Light - 75 watts
They dont seem to have anything on their website about it but I read about it somewhere. I wonder how it stacks up against current lights.

Dan Brockett · November 29th, 2009, 01:56 PM

Not sure why you would pay $569.00 for 68 LEDs and 75 watt output when for $299.00, you could have 256 LEDs with the equivalent of about 500 watt ouput? The CoolLights also runs off of Sony or Panasonic camcorder batteries, external batteries or AC. Also features more mounting options, barndoors and color correction filters for minus green, CTO and diffusion.

CL-LED256 256 LED Spot - Cool Lights USA

No comparison.

Dan

Randy Johnson · November 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Where do you see 500 Watt?

Richard Andrewski · November 29th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Dan probably meant to say its about equivalent to a 250w tungsten which is the approximate range of the LED 256 if you wanted to compare it in that way.

Randy Johnson · November 29th, 2009, 05:11 PM

Still 250 watts is ALOT of light. Does it really put out that much light? I mean I have a tungsten of about 60 watts if I got one of these it would put out more light?

Richard Andrewski · November 30th, 2009, 03:24 AM

If you have a light meter, check what your tungsten light is putting out at 2, 4 and 6 feet and compare that to the photometrics on the LED 256 product page and the specifications tab. That'll tell the story but yes it should be about comparable.

Dan Brockett · November 30th, 2009, 07:21 PM

Hi:

I just received my CoolLights 256. The 500 watt figure was just a guesstimate as I have not yet had time to test it head to head with a 500 watt light but suffice it to say that this little light is VERY bright for its size and weight and is a much better value than of these LED on-camera lights that have flooded the market.

I am sure that Richard's photometrics are accurate, if he says 250 watt equivalent, I am sure it is. It is bright enough to light up one entire end of a small room. Bright enough to use a small softbox with it (Richard, have you considered a speed ring or softbox for this little pup?). That Switronix light just doesn't seem like a good value in comparison.

Dan

Richard Andrewski · November 30th, 2009, 07:56 PM

I'd be thrilled if it does compare to some 500w lights but I like to be conservative so we under report a bit.

On the softbox, I hadn't considered it as I just thought it was too small and am not sure that the current stand mount would hold the considerable weight of a softbox. Maybe we can consider something more like a flozier for it or some such simple solution to keep weight down. I'm open to suggestions however as always on what's a good addon or accessory. Whenever people have ideas, feel free to post them or drop an email.

Dan Brockett · November 30th, 2009, 10:22 PM

You recall my speedring I made for 600s, right? Still using it with my small Chimeras all of the time although the new solution you came up with looks pretty decent too.

I have a really cheap plastic speed ring for flashes and a small softbox that I use for flash, I may see what I can rig up with this setup. Since the 256 runs so cool, I could probably get away with using a strobe only softbox as long as the vents on the 256 are exposed.

I'll let you know what I discover.

Thanks,

D

Richard Andrewski · December 1st, 2009, 04:18 AM

Strobe type softbox should be no problem as long as the stand adapter can handle the weight of the softbox. Even if the existing adapter can't handle it, there are plenty of 1/4-20 solutions available that can go in the standard bottom mount on the LED 256. Would love to hear what you come up with. And also how much surface area on the front of the softbox you end up with.

Jeff Anselmo · December 1st, 2009, 04:31 PM

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the CoolLights feedback on your new LED256. This will be another vote when we consider getting these lights.

Best,

Jeff Anselmo · December 1st, 2009, 04:33 PM

Hi Richard,

Are you considering adding a softbox option for your LED light kits? (If you have some now, would you mind pointing it out to me? Thanks!)

Best,

Richard Andrewski · December 1st, 2009, 05:33 PM

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your interest and comments. We do have a softbox now for the LED 600, its under LED Fixture Series and LED Accessories categories on our site. We call it the "speed softbox" as it collapses down and unfolds to put on the LED 600 very quickly. We haven't done one for the LED 256 yet but may do sometime soon.

Jeff Anselmo · December 1st, 2009, 05:49 PM

Hi Richard,

Appreciate the reply. We're currently working for a university at the moment, and they bought an Arri tungsten light kit. Unfortunately, we've been visiting (and will need to re-visit) factories where setting up a tungsten light is cumbersome to say the least, but could be a real safety hazard in other cases. I really like the idea (like Tim Polster's review of your LED lights in a factory environment) of having portable lights which are battery powered.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I do find on camera lights to be a bit too "spot on" for our situation. Whereas a more diffused, low key light will work better for us.

Best,

Richard Andrewski · December 1st, 2009, 05:52 PM

Hi Jeff,

That's just what the LED 256 was designed for anyway so its within the application of what you want to do and it is more at home on a stand then on a camera given its (nearly) 2 lb. weight.

November 29th, 2009, 12:26 PM	#1
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	New LED from Switronix Anyone see this? Switronix \| Torchled TL-88 Dimmable 5600K LED Light - 75 watts They dont seem to have anything on their website about it but I read about it somewhere. I wonder how it stacks up against current lights.

November 29th, 2009, 04:26 PM	#4
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	Dan probably meant to say its about equivalent to a 250w tungsten which is the approximate range of the LED 256 if you wanted to compare it in that way. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

November 30th, 2009, 03:24 AM	#6
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	If you have a light meter, check what your tungsten light is putting out at 2, 4 and 6 feet and compare that to the photometrics on the LED 256 product page and the specifications tab. That'll tell the story but yes it should be about comparable. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

November 30th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#8
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	I'd be thrilled if it does compare to some 500w lights but I like to be conservative so we under report a bit. On the softbox, I hadn't considered it as I just thought it was too small and am not sure that the current stand mount would hold the considerable weight of a softbox. Maybe we can consider something more like a flozier for it or some such simple solution to keep weight down. I'm open to suggestions however as always on what's a good addon or accessory. Whenever people have ideas, feel free to post them or drop an email. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

December 1st, 2009, 04:18 AM	#10
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	Strobe type softbox should be no problem as long as the stand adapter can handle the weight of the softbox. Even if the existing adapter can't handle it, there are plenty of 1/4-20 solutions available that can go in the standard bottom mount on the LED 256. Would love to hear what you come up with. And also how much surface area on the front of the softbox you end up with. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

November 29th, 2009, 01:56 PM	#2
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	Not sure why you would pay $569.00 for 68 LEDs and 75 watt output when for $299.00, you could have 256 LEDs with the equivalent of about 500 watt ouput? The CoolLights also runs off of Sony or Panasonic camcorder batteries, external batteries or AC. Also features more mounting options, barndoors and color correction filters for minus green, CTO and diffusion. CL-LED256 256 LED Spot - Cool Lights USA No comparison. Dan

November 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM	#3
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Where do you see 500 Watt?

November 29th, 2009, 05:11 PM	#5
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Still 250 watts is ALOT of light. Does it really put out that much light? I mean I have a tungsten of about 60 watts if I got one of these it would put out more light?

November 30th, 2009, 07:21 PM	#7
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	Hi: I just received my CoolLights 256. The 500 watt figure was just a guesstimate as I have not yet had time to test it head to head with a 500 watt light but suffice it to say that this little light is VERY bright for its size and weight and is a much better value than of these LED on-camera lights that have flooded the market. I am sure that Richard's photometrics are accurate, if he says 250 watt equivalent, I am sure it is. It is bright enough to light up one entire end of a small room. Bright enough to use a small softbox with it (Richard, have you considered a speed ring or softbox for this little pup?). That Switronix light just doesn't seem like a good value in comparison. Dan

November 30th, 2009, 10:22 PM	#9
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	You recall my speedring I made for 600s, right? Still using it with my small Chimeras all of the time although the new solution you came up with looks pretty decent too. I have a really cheap plastic speed ring for flashes and a small softbox that I use for flash, I may see what I can rig up with this setup. Since the 256 runs so cool, I could probably get away with using a strobe only softbox as long as the vents on the 256 are exposed. I'll let you know what I discover. Thanks, D

December 1st, 2009, 04:31 PM	#11
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Dan, Thanks for the CoolLights feedback on your new LED256. This will be another vote when we consider getting these lights. Best, __________________ --JA

December 1st, 2009, 04:33 PM	#12
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Richard, Are you considering adding a softbox option for your LED light kits? (If you have some now, would you mind pointing it out to me? Thanks!) Best, __________________ --JA

December 1st, 2009, 05:33 PM	#13
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	Hi Jeff, Thanks for your interest and comments. We do have a softbox now for the LED 600, its under LED Fixture Series and LED Accessories categories on our site. We call it the "speed softbox" as it collapses down and unfolds to put on the LED 600 very quickly. We haven't done one for the LED 256 yet but may do sometime soon. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

December 1st, 2009, 05:49 PM	#14
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Richard, Appreciate the reply. We're currently working for a university at the moment, and they bought an Arri tungsten light kit. Unfortunately, we've been visiting (and will need to re-visit) factories where setting up a tungsten light is cumbersome to say the least, but could be a real safety hazard in other cases. I really like the idea (like Tim Polster's review of your LED lights in a factory environment) of having portable lights which are battery powered. Sorry to hijack the thread, but I do find on camera lights to be a bit too "spot on" for our situation. Whereas a more diffused, low key light will work better for us. Best, __________________ --JA

December 1st, 2009, 05:52 PM	#15
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	Hi Jeff, That's just what the LED 256 was designed for anyway so its within the application of what you want to do and it is more at home on a stand then on a camera given its (nearly) 2 lb. weight. __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz