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Matt Concialdi · November 8th, 2003, 08:27 PM

I'm about to start doing some documentry interviews in a studio setting and I am wondering about lighting. Should I use Fresnels, studio soft lights? What do you guys recommend? And where is the best place to purchase lights?

Thanks, Matt Concialdi

Richard Veil · November 17th, 2003, 06:22 PM

Check it out it is perfect for you

Chimera Item 8000 24z32 kit would be a great way to start out.

Let me know if I can help

Matt Concialdi · November 20th, 2003, 11:51 AM

Thanks, I'll check it out and if I have questions will hit you up with them.

Bryan Beasleigh · November 20th, 2003, 09:37 PM

I agree with Richard, a nice soft light source is a really good start. There are a fair number of writeups on building a basic kit with a softybox.

There are a fair number of choices Westcott, Chimera, Photoflex and Lowel. The most populat are the Chimera, Lowel Rifa and Photoflex. The Photflex is the most inexpensive and gives good value, I own one. Chimera is the big name and costs a tad more. Shop around, Richard has mentioned the Chimera kits are very competatively priced and Photoflex has some deals on as well.

Many of the previous posts will give links to the manufacturer and suppliers sites.

Matt Concialdi · November 21st, 2003, 12:55 AM

Thanks, I'll check them out too. I was told that todos (I think) are good soft lights to use. Am I spelling that right?

Bryan Beasleigh · November 21st, 2003, 02:53 AM

Do you mean Tota's. They're an open faced broadlight that works very well in a softbox. By themsleves they are harsh and hard to control.

Carlos E. Martinez · December 2nd, 2003, 09:07 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh :
There are a fair number of choices Westcott, Chimera, Photoflex and Lowel. The most populat are the Chimera, Lowel Rifa and Photoflex. The Photflex is the most inexpensive and gives good value, I own one. Chimera is the big name and costs a tad more. Shop around, Richard has mentioned the Chimera kits are very competatively priced and Photoflex has some deals on as well. -->>>

Which is the Photoflex model/kit you bought?

Which should be a Chimera equivalent?

Chimera does not seem to have a price list on their catalog.

These type of lights actually seem to be large frameworks to attach to specific light types. They seem to have a basic naked bulb socket to which you can also attach a framework. Am I right?

Without getting too much DIY, isn't it possible to assemble ourselves something like that? I remember when the Tota light was released, I built an aluminium frame myself for an open broad I had and it worked perfectly.

The key question here is how to hold the whole frame to the light.

Carlos

Richard Veil · December 2nd, 2003, 11:05 AM

The Photoflex Medium Starlite kit is similar to the Chimera Item 8000.
Right now you can get the Chimera kit at a great price at

www.videogearshop.com

http://www.videogearshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=37
He can have the kits drop shipped out.

Also the Chimera kit Item 8000 has www.lighttools.com grids and a nice Avenger A635B stand as well as a Carry Bag.
Both Photoflex and Chimera currently use the same bulbs. Although the Chimera Mogul socket is easier to use an has a locking screw to keep the bank from rotating and a socket adapter to allow the Mogul socket to use a 250 watt bulb.

Bryan Beasleigh · December 2nd, 2003, 01:23 PM

Carlos
There's a lot more to a soft box then some fabric and a few stringers. The Chimera, Westcott and Photoflex is made out of a double sided fabric. One side is a black heat resistant covering and insidw is a shiny silver. They're all impecably finishes with gyides to hold the support rods and velcro corners to allow for quick disassembly.

The soft box support rods fit into a metal frame that the light attaches to. The Star light and the light that Richard is talking about are made specifically for use in a softbox.

If you already have a Tota then just buy a speed ring and softbox.

The route I went was the Photoflex with speedring and manftotto master (04) stand ($75). The speed ring was $75 and the med (24x32) softbox with louvers and shadow mask was $180.

The kit that Richard mentions has the light tools grids and a really well made stand. Actually the 635 has the same rating as the manfrotto master. Manfrotto and Avenger have the same head office (Gruppo Manfrotto).

Starting from scratch that $525 kit has some premium extras that make it really attractive. The Mogul base adapter and bulb are worth a few bucks and the light tools stuff is absolutely first rate.

DIY on something that would hold a hot light and give you any shred of credabilty with a client would be very difficult and could wind up costing more in the long run.

If there was a fire with a DIY unit , the fact that it wasn't fire rated or electrically certified may negate any insurance coverage.

Carlos E. Martinez · December 2nd, 2003, 01:55 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh : Carlos
There's a lot more to a soft box then some fabric and a few stringers. The Chimera, Westcott and Photoflex is made out of a double sided fabric. One side is a black heat resistant covering and insidw is a shiny silver. They're all impecably finishes with gyides to hold the support rods and velcro corners to allow for quick disassembly.-->>>

No need to explain on that. If they are still in the market, and that's a very competitive one, it's because details are quite well taken care of.

<<<-- The soft box support rods fit into a metal frame that the light attaches to. The Star light and the light that Richard is talking about are made specifically for use in a softbox. -->>>

Yes, I think I got to understand that on the catalog. But the basic Photoflex kit seems to be much cheaper.

<<<-- If you already have a Tota then just buy a speed ring and softbox. -->>>

No, I don't have a Tota anymore. But in fact it might be a nice way to start a kit mixing both technologies.

<<<--The route I went was the Photoflex with speedring and manftotto master (04) stand ($75). The speed ring was $75 and the med (24x32) softbox with louvers and shadow mask was $180. -->>>

Sounds like an interesting kit.

<<<--The kit that Richard mentions has the light tools grids and a really well made stand. Actually the 635 has the same rating as the manfrotto master. Manfrotto and Avenger have the same head office (Gruppo Manfrotto). -->>>

OK

<<<-- Starting from scratch that $525 kit has some premium extras that make it really attractive. The Mogul base adapter and bulb are worth a few bucks and the light tools stuff is absolutely first rate. -->>>

OK

<<<--DIY on something that would hold a hot light and give you any shred of credabilty with a client would be very difficult and could wind up costing more in the long run. -->>>

Of course I would never use a DIY tool on a client paid job. On such cases I would go for the best thing my budget allows, and the budget would have been done to include the minimum best.

But many times someone can devise a way that would cost you a fifth of what we would normally pay for a specifi product and allow a low-budget crew to still get good results.

Have you seen in the mini35 thread what a guy did with a 25-CD box, a CD disk and a toy engine?...

<<<-- If there was a fire with a DIY unit , the fact that it wasn't fire rated or electrically certified may negate any insurance coverage. -->>>

A point indeed, that would just ask for more caution. DIY doesn't by any means mean sloppy or careless.

In any case I am now too old to go for a DIY solution on a soft light.

Carlos E. Martinez

Bryan Beasleigh · December 3rd, 2003, 01:04 AM

"In any case I am now too old to go for a DIY solution on a soft light. "

That makes two of us :)

Maybe it's just because we're wiser?

Wayne Orr · December 3rd, 2003, 09:53 AM

"But many times someone can devise a way that would cost you a fifth of what we would normally pay for a specifi product and allow a low-budget crew to still get good results."

Since you brought it up, Carlos, check out the JTL Everlight Kit. You can find a rather extended thread on it on this site.

Wayne Orr, SOC

November 8th, 2003, 08:27 PM	#1
Matt Concialdi Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 28	Lighting interview documentries I'm about to start doing some documentry interviews in a studio setting and I am wondering about lighting. Should I use Fresnels, studio soft lights? What do you guys recommend? And where is the best place to purchase lights? Thanks, Matt Concialdi

November 17th, 2003, 06:22 PM	#2
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	Look for post a good basic lighting kit. Check it out it is perfect for you Chimera Item 8000 24z32 kit would be a great way to start out. Let me know if I can help __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

December 2nd, 2003, 11:05 AM	#8
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	YO YO YO..Happy December and kits The Photoflex Medium Starlite kit is similar to the Chimera Item 8000. Right now you can get the Chimera kit at a great price at www.videogearshop.com http://www.videogearshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=37 He can have the kits drop shipped out. Also the Chimera kit Item 8000 has www.lighttools.com grids and a nice Avenger A635B stand as well as a Carry Bag. Both Photoflex and Chimera currently use the same bulbs. Although the Chimera Mogul socket is easier to use an has a locking screw to keep the bank from rotating and a socket adapter to allow the Mogul socket to use a 250 watt bulb. __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

November 20th, 2003, 11:51 AM	#3
Matt Concialdi Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 28	Thanks, I'll check it out and if I have questions will hit you up with them.

November 20th, 2003, 09:37 PM	#4
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	I agree with Richard, a nice soft light source is a really good start. There are a fair number of writeups on building a basic kit with a softybox. There are a fair number of choices Westcott, Chimera, Photoflex and Lowel. The most populat are the Chimera, Lowel Rifa and Photoflex. The Photflex is the most inexpensive and gives good value, I own one. Chimera is the big name and costs a tad more. Shop around, Richard has mentioned the Chimera kits are very competatively priced and Photoflex has some deals on as well. Many of the previous posts will give links to the manufacturer and suppliers sites.

November 21st, 2003, 12:55 AM	#5
Matt Concialdi Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 28	Thanks, I'll check them out too. I was told that todos (I think) are good soft lights to use. Am I spelling that right?

November 21st, 2003, 02:53 AM	#6
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Do you mean Tota's. They're an open faced broadlight that works very well in a softbox. By themsleves they are harsh and hard to control.

December 2nd, 2003, 09:07 AM	#7
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh : There are a fair number of choices Westcott, Chimera, Photoflex and Lowel. The most populat are the Chimera, Lowel Rifa and Photoflex. The Photflex is the most inexpensive and gives good value, I own one. Chimera is the big name and costs a tad more. Shop around, Richard has mentioned the Chimera kits are very competatively priced and Photoflex has some deals on as well. -->>> Which is the Photoflex model/kit you bought? Which should be a Chimera equivalent? Chimera does not seem to have a price list on their catalog. These type of lights actually seem to be large frameworks to attach to specific light types. They seem to have a basic naked bulb socket to which you can also attach a framework. Am I right? Without getting too much DIY, isn't it possible to assemble ourselves something like that? I remember when the Tota light was released, I built an aluminium frame myself for an open broad I had and it worked perfectly. The key question here is how to hold the whole frame to the light. Carlos

December 2nd, 2003, 01:23 PM	#9
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Carlos There's a lot more to a soft box then some fabric and a few stringers. The Chimera, Westcott and Photoflex is made out of a double sided fabric. One side is a black heat resistant covering and insidw is a shiny silver. They're all impecably finishes with gyides to hold the support rods and velcro corners to allow for quick disassembly. The soft box support rods fit into a metal frame that the light attaches to. The Star light and the light that Richard is talking about are made specifically for use in a softbox. If you already have a Tota then just buy a speed ring and softbox. The route I went was the Photoflex with speedring and manftotto master (04) stand ($75). The speed ring was $75 and the med (24x32) softbox with louvers and shadow mask was $180. The kit that Richard mentions has the light tools grids and a really well made stand. Actually the 635 has the same rating as the manfrotto master. Manfrotto and Avenger have the same head office (Gruppo Manfrotto). Starting from scratch that $525 kit has some premium extras that make it really attractive. The Mogul base adapter and bulb are worth a few bucks and the light tools stuff is absolutely first rate. DIY on something that would hold a hot light and give you any shred of credabilty with a client would be very difficult and could wind up costing more in the long run. If there was a fire with a DIY unit , the fact that it wasn't fire rated or electrically certified may negate any insurance coverage.

December 2nd, 2003, 01:55 PM	#10
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh : Carlos There's a lot more to a soft box then some fabric and a few stringers. The Chimera, Westcott and Photoflex is made out of a double sided fabric. One side is a black heat resistant covering and insidw is a shiny silver. They're all impecably finishes with gyides to hold the support rods and velcro corners to allow for quick disassembly.-->>> No need to explain on that. If they are still in the market, and that's a very competitive one, it's because details are quite well taken care of. <<<-- The soft box support rods fit into a metal frame that the light attaches to. The Star light and the light that Richard is talking about are made specifically for use in a softbox. -->>> Yes, I think I got to understand that on the catalog. But the basic Photoflex kit seems to be much cheaper. <<<-- If you already have a Tota then just buy a speed ring and softbox. -->>> No, I don't have a Tota anymore. But in fact it might be a nice way to start a kit mixing both technologies. <<<--The route I went was the Photoflex with speedring and manftotto master (04) stand ($75). The speed ring was $75 and the med (24x32) softbox with louvers and shadow mask was $180. -->>> Sounds like an interesting kit. <<<--The kit that Richard mentions has the light tools grids and a really well made stand. Actually the 635 has the same rating as the manfrotto master. Manfrotto and Avenger have the same head office (Gruppo Manfrotto). -->>> OK <<<-- Starting from scratch that $525 kit has some premium extras that make it really attractive. The Mogul base adapter and bulb are worth a few bucks and the light tools stuff is absolutely first rate. -->>> OK <<<--DIY on something that would hold a hot light and give you any shred of credabilty with a client would be very difficult and could wind up costing more in the long run. -->>> Of course I would never use a DIY tool on a client paid job. On such cases I would go for the best thing my budget allows, and the budget would have been done to include the minimum best. But many times someone can devise a way that would cost you a fifth of what we would normally pay for a specifi product and allow a low-budget crew to still get good results. Have you seen in the mini35 thread what a guy did with a 25-CD box, a CD disk and a toy engine?... <<<-- If there was a fire with a DIY unit , the fact that it wasn't fire rated or electrically certified may negate any insurance coverage. -->>> A point indeed, that would just ask for more caution. DIY doesn't by any means mean sloppy or careless. In any case I am now too old to go for a DIY solution on a soft light. Carlos E. Martinez

December 3rd, 2003, 01:04 AM	#11
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	"In any case I am now too old to go for a DIY solution on a soft light. " That makes two of us :) Maybe it's just because we're wiser?

December 3rd, 2003, 09:53 AM	#12
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	"But many times someone can devise a way that would cost you a fifth of what we would normally pay for a specifi product and allow a low-budget crew to still get good results." Since you brought it up, Carlos, check out the JTL Everlight Kit. You can find a rather extended thread on it on this site. Wayne Orr, SOC